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G******U
发帖数: 4211
1
BLM(曾经)很强大,不代表美国华人也要搞个基于种族的东西同样强大。
美国华裔联盟声称:

请记住这些平凡而伟大的身影,他们的一小步是华人融入美国主流政治的一大步。这些
觉醒的先行者正在改变美国社会对华人的偏见,正在为子孙后代赢得应有的地位。华人
不再是那个”见大义而惜身,见小利而忘命” 卑微族裔。

可见种族自卑,自我歧视思想正是来自美国华裔联盟自身。
这把在朝鲜战场上为国奋战的吕超然将军的功劳彻底抹杀了!
j****l
发帖数: 3356
2
按你这找一点相似就当本质的逻辑,那你和屎本质并无不同,都是有机物

华人

【在 G******U 的大作中提到】
: BLM(曾经)很强大,不代表美国华人也要搞个基于种族的东西同样强大。
: 美国华裔联盟声称:
: “
: 请记住这些平凡而伟大的身影,他们的一小步是华人融入美国主流政治的一大步。这些
: 觉醒的先行者正在改变美国社会对华人的偏见,正在为子孙后代赢得应有的地位。华人
: 不再是那个”见大义而惜身,见小利而忘命” 卑微族裔。
: ”
: 可见种族自卑,自我歧视思想正是来自美国华裔联盟自身。
: 这把在朝鲜战场上为国奋战的吕超然将军的功劳彻底抹杀了!

G******U
发帖数: 4211
3
"卑微族"的终于跳出来了。不过值得反驳你给别人看。你的逻辑正是左派证明AA不是
歧视的逻辑。

【在 j****l 的大作中提到】
: 按你这找一点相似就当本质的逻辑,那你和屎本质并无不同,都是有机物
:
: 华人

v*******e
发帖数: 11604
4

我觉得你就是屎。你看我,直截了当,看得人都懂我的立场。而你说的狡辩理,我没看
懂,也不想花时间看懂,你的说教就都白费了。

【在 G******U 的大作中提到】
: "卑微族"的终于跳出来了。不过值得反驳你给别人看。你的逻辑正是左派证明AA不是
: 歧视的逻辑。

G*******h
发帖数: 4091
5
不要以族群族裔为标识来建立组织,至少不能明着挂在这个组织的名号上。
这种组织恐怕是挂羊头卖狗肉甚至给华裔嘲讽吸仇恨的。
G******U
发帖数: 4211
6
你再变个脸接着做你的卑微族。接着变

【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
:
: 我觉得你就是屎。你看我,直截了当,看得人都懂我的立场。而你说的狡辩理,我没看
: 懂,也不想花时间看懂,你的说教就都白费了。

r*********t
发帖数: 4911
7
"华人融入美国主流政治"。美国主流政治就是主党+和党建制派。要鸡融入黄鼠狼群吗
v*******e
发帖数: 11604
8

我也不支持融入概念,然而有组织比没组织好。差组织也比没组织好。

【在 r*********t 的大作中提到】
: "华人融入美国主流政治"。美国主流政治就是主党+和党建制派。要鸡融入黄鼠狼群吗
: ?

G******U
发帖数: 4211
9
美国华裔联盟给了卑微族群融入主流政治的机会了。
自辱华裔而不自知。

【在 r*********t 的大作中提到】
: "华人融入美国主流政治"。美国主流政治就是主党+和党建制派。要鸡融入黄鼠狼群吗
: ?

c*******o
发帖数: 8869
10
有道理。原来觉得BLM和CAA都值得赞成。不过看到CAA如此反对BLM,我就不赞成CAA了。

华人

【在 G******U 的大作中提到】
: BLM(曾经)很强大,不代表美国华人也要搞个基于种族的东西同样强大。
: 美国华裔联盟声称:
: “
: 请记住这些平凡而伟大的身影,他们的一小步是华人融入美国主流政治的一大步。这些
: 觉醒的先行者正在改变美国社会对华人的偏见,正在为子孙后代赢得应有的地位。华人
: 不再是那个”见大义而惜身,见小利而忘命” 卑微族裔。
: ”
: 可见种族自卑,自我歧视思想正是来自美国华裔联盟自身。
: 这把在朝鲜战场上为国奋战的吕超然将军的功劳彻底抹杀了!

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G******U
发帖数: 4211
11
不过你来一说有道理,我倒怀疑自己可能没有道理了。
我只是不认可“卑微”的华人对“融入”的渴望。

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 有道理。原来觉得BLM和CAA都值得赞成。不过看到CAA如此反对BLM,我就不赞成CAA了。
:
: 华人

j****l
发帖数: 3356
12
我反对你的逻辑错误,就成了"卑微族"?你的逻辑真的不行啊

【在 G******U 的大作中提到】
: "卑微族"的终于跳出来了。不过值得反驳你给别人看。你的逻辑正是左派证明AA不是
: 歧视的逻辑。

v*******e
发帖数: 11604
13

我一眼就看穿你的看法和看门狗一致,属于屎一类,你还不自知。

【在 G******U 的大作中提到】
: 不过你来一说有道理,我倒怀疑自己可能没有道理了。
: 我只是不认可“卑微”的华人对“融入”的渴望。

G******U
发帖数: 4211
14
你这个“卑微”还挺能跳的。再变个看看。

【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
:
: 我一眼就看穿你的看法和看门狗一致,属于屎一类,你还不自知。

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
15
大家都是AA反对者,又都支持床铺,千万别走火啊,各位兄弟。
只有发春可以单独拎出来浸猪笼。
c*******o
发帖数: 8869
16
我和你有大是大非的差别。在你看来,两个都可耻。
在我看来,黑人被爆头,华人被AA,气不过, 就形成了自己的宗族组织,都是合理的。
至于挺一个,反另一个的,不过是原则性不强的宵小罢了,都不值得认真回帖。

【在 G******U 的大作中提到】
: 不过你来一说有道理,我倒怀疑自己可能没有道理了。
: 我只是不认可“卑微”的华人对“融入”的渴望。

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
17
发春缺乏逻辑。
Blm提倡的按种族划分人群当然要反对。在左派执政压迫亚裔到了忍无可忍的程度,亚
裔当然愿意团结起来维护自己的合法利益。
虽然二者都用种族做划分,但是blm之流和发春这样的货是因,美国华裔联盟这是果。
因不存在了,国也就自然消亡。皮之不存,毛将焉附?

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我和你有大是大非的差别。在你看来,两个都可耻。
: 在我看来,黑人被爆头,华人被AA,气不过, 就形成了自己的宗族组织,都是合理的。
: 至于挺一个,反另一个的,不过是原则性不强的宵小罢了,都不值得认真回帖。

c*******o
发帖数: 8869
18
扯蛋,blm反对的是警察暴力。华人也经常是警察暴力的受害者。这次佛州枪击,荷枪
实弹的警察根本不敢进去,证明这就是一群欺软怕硬的主儿。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 发春缺乏逻辑。
: Blm提倡的按种族划分人群当然要反对。在左派执政压迫亚裔到了忍无可忍的程度,亚
: 裔当然愿意团结起来维护自己的合法利益。
: 虽然二者都用种族做划分,但是blm之流和发春这样的货是因,美国华裔联盟这是果。
: 因不存在了,国也就自然消亡。皮之不存,毛将焉附?

G******U
发帖数: 4211
19
完全赞同:我和你有大是大非的差别。
但你的解释却根本不是那么一回事。我和你的大是大非的区别正在解释的细节上。
你说在我看来。。。等等,已经属于树靶子了。

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我和你有大是大非的差别。在你看来,两个都可耻。
: 在我看来,黑人被爆头,华人被AA,气不过, 就形成了自己的宗族组织,都是合理的。
: 至于挺一个,反另一个的,不过是原则性不强的宵小罢了,都不值得认真回帖。

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
20
你去研究一下黑人生命重要的要求再来唧唧歪歪。给你一个关键词,密苏里。

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 扯蛋,blm反对的是警察暴力。华人也经常是警察暴力的受害者。这次佛州枪击,荷枪
: 实弹的警察根本不敢进去,证明这就是一群欺软怕硬的主儿。

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c*******o
发帖数: 8869
21
在我看来华人,和黑人,都受到了系统性歧视,组织起来,有何不可?

【在 G******U 的大作中提到】
: 完全赞同:我和你有大是大非的差别。
: 但你的解释却根本不是那么一回事。我和你的大是大非的区别正在解释的细节上。
: 你说在我看来。。。等等,已经属于树靶子了。

G******U
发帖数: 4211
22
奴性未改者,即使国内入党积极,出国信教积极,
蒙面之后极其勇猛,蒙恩美国华裔联盟来快速融
入主流也是可以嘿嘿嘿的。
最终还是文革余孽。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 大家都是AA反对者,又都支持床铺,千万别走火啊,各位兄弟。
: 只有发春可以单独拎出来浸猪笼。

G******U
发帖数: 4211
23
美国华裔联盟和BLM行事的方法完全不同。
美国华裔联盟没有在大街上喊口号kill the cops。
如果那样的话就更要“蒙面”了。或者只号召其他华裔
参加。

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 在我看来华人,和黑人,都受到了系统性歧视,组织起来,有何不可?
r*******d
发帖数: 663
24
BLM起源于Traction Martin事件,壮大于Michael Brown事件。
你给我们说说,这两个事件中哪个黑人是警察暴力的受害者?面对所谓受害者的攻击,
如果你是警察,你将如何?
警察击毙华人的事件真的不多。更多的是华人外卖郎被人抢劫杀害。还有上次福州女英
雄枪击三个抢匪。凶手或抢匪是什么人,我就不说了,大家都知道。

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 扯蛋,blm反对的是警察暴力。华人也经常是警察暴力的受害者。这次佛州枪击,荷枪
: 实弹的警察根本不敢进去,证明这就是一群欺软怕硬的主儿。

G******U
发帖数: 4211
25
BLM背后应该有金主。

【在 r*******d 的大作中提到】
: BLM起源于Traction Martin事件,壮大于Michael Brown事件。
: 你给我们说说,这两个事件中哪个黑人是警察暴力的受害者?面对所谓受害者的攻击,
: 如果你是警察,你将如何?
: 警察击毙华人的事件真的不多。更多的是华人外卖郎被人抢劫杀害。还有上次福州女英
: 雄枪击三个抢匪。凶手或抢匪是什么人,我就不说了,大家都知道。

c*******o
发帖数: 8869
26
ERIC GARNER, Philando Castile,多了去了。
南卡的那个黑参议员,一被被pull over 7,8次,任何一次都可能转化为流血事件。

【在 r*******d 的大作中提到】
: BLM起源于Traction Martin事件,壮大于Michael Brown事件。
: 你给我们说说,这两个事件中哪个黑人是警察暴力的受害者?面对所谓受害者的攻击,
: 如果你是警察,你将如何?
: 警察击毙华人的事件真的不多。更多的是华人外卖郎被人抢劫杀害。还有上次福州女英
: 雄枪击三个抢匪。凶手或抢匪是什么人,我就不说了,大家都知道。

c*******o
发帖数: 8869
27
齐默曼不是什么好鸟,现在基本可以肯定,吹望是被诱杀的。
blm要真是什么暴力组织,他估计已经死了8回了。
Other encounters with law enforcement
Zimmerman has had other encounters with the law, including two incidents in
2005, five incidents in 2013, and other incidents in following years.[36]
In July 2005, when he was 21, Zimmerman was arrested after shoving an
undercover alcohol control agent while a friend of Zimmerman's was being
arrested for underage drinking. The officer alleged that Zimmerman had said,
"I don't care who you are," followed by a profanity, and had refused to
leave the area after the officer had shown his badge.[37] The charges were
subsequently dropped when Zimmerman entered a pre-trial diversion program
that included anger management classes.[3][38]
Also in 2005, Zimmerman's ex-fiancée filed a restraining order against him,
alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman requested a reciprocal restraining
order. Both orders were granted.[3][39] These incidents were raised by
prosecutors at Zimmerman's initial bond hearing. The judge described them as
"run of the mill."[40][41]
Zimmerman's wife Shellie pleaded guilty on August 28, 2013, to a reduced
misdemeanor perjury charge for lying under oath. She was sentenced to a year
's probation and 100 hours of community service. She lied about their assets
during a bail hearing following his arrest for shooting Martin. Days before
the bond hearing, she moved $74,000, broken into smaller transfers, from
his credit union account to hers. $47,000 was transferred from George's
account to his sister's in the days before the bond hearing. Amounts of over
$10,000 would have been reported to the Internal Revenue Service. Four days
after Zimmerman was released on bond, she transferred more than $85,500
from her account into her husband's account. The jail recorded Zimmerman
instructing her on a call to "pay off all the bills," including credit cards
.[42]
On September 9, 2013, in Lake Mary, police responded to a 911 call by
Zimmerman's estranged wife, who reported that Zimmerman had threatened her
and her father with a gun and had punched her father in the face. Zimmerman
was briefly detained and questioned by police.[43] No gun was found at the
scene. Police took a broken iPad from the scene for examination of a video
recording of the incident to determine whether to press charges against
either Zimmerman or his wife.[44] His wife declined to press charges, later
expressing regret about her decision.[45] After determining that the iPad
video could not be recovered, the Lake Mary police department announced they
would not be pressing charges against any of the parties.[46]
On November 18, 2013, Zimmerman's girlfriend called the police, alleging
that after she had asked Zimmerman to leave her home, he had pointed a
shotgun at her and begun breaking her belongings.[47] The police reported
that Zimmerman had barricaded himself inside the apartment before they made
their way inside and arrested him.[48] He was charged with aggravated
assault with a weapon – a felony – as well as domestic violence battery
and criminal mischief.[49][50] On December 6, Zimmerman's girlfriend asked
that the charges against Zimmerman be dropped and that the restraining order
barring him from seeing her be lifted, after which prosecutors said that
they would drop the case against him.[51][52]
On January 9, 2015, Zimmerman was arrested by Lake Mary police and charged
with aggravated assault with a weapon after allegedly throwing a wine bottle
at his ex-girlfriend.[53] He was released on bond the following day.[54]
The charges were later dropped after the complainant recanted her story.[55]
On July 31, 2016, Zimmerman called the Seminole County Sheriff's Department
to report that he had been punched in the face at Gators Riverside Grille in
Sanford.[56] Zimmerman told investigators that he had been identified, and
then assaulted by another patron at the restaurant who accused him of
bragging about killing Trayvon Martin.[57]
On November 9, 2016, Zimmerman was removed from a bar after yelling at a
waitress. A deputy on the scene said Zimmerman used a racial slur before he
left. Zimmerman stated he intended to sue the Seminole County Sheriff's
Office. The deputy claimed that Zimmerman said: "I didn't know you were a
nigger lover."[58][59][60]
Shooting by Matthew Apperson
On September 9, 2014, Zimmerman was named by police in a road rage incident
in which another driver, later named by police as Matthew Apperson, claimed
that Zimmerman followed and threatened him.[61][62] Zimmerman later claimed
in testimony that Apperson approached him over a rear tire leaking air,
which Zimmerman was already aware of. He had explained this to Apperson
before Apperson asked if Zimmerman knew he was "wrong for killing that
little black boy". Zimmerman lost Apperson after the two stopped at a gas
station and Zimmerman drove off.[63]
On May 11, 2015, Apperson shot at Zimmerman on a street in Lake Mary,
causing minor facial injuries from flying glass and debris. Zimmerman
flagged down a police officer and was taken to the hospital.[64][65][66]
Apperson maintained that Zimmerman was the aggressor and that Apperson acted
in self-defense.[67][68] Zimmerman also had a gun with him at the time of
the incident, but Zimmerman's attorney said that "George absolutely denies
having shown it, waved, displayed, pointed it." A Lake Mary police
spokesperson stated that "the investigation has proven that George Zimmerman
was not the shooter."[67]
On May 15, 2015, Apperson was jailed in Sanford, Florida with a bond of $35,
000.[69] While free on bond, Apperson was accused, convicted and jailed for
disorderly conduct, which revoked his bond.[70] Lake Mary PD "learned that
Apperson has exhibited unusual behaviors in which he had recently been
admitted to a mental institution. It appears that Apperson has a fixation on
Zimmerman and has displayed some signs of paranoia, anxiety, and bipolar
disorder."[71]
On September 22, 2015, a judge ruled Apperson would stand trial for second-
degree attempted murder along with one count of aggravated assault and one
count of shooting into an occupied vehicle.[63][70][72] Apperson was
convicted of attempted murder and aggravated assault with a firearm on
September 16, 2016.[73] On October 17, 2016, Apperson was sentenced to 20
years in prison on the charge of attempted 2nd-degree murder. He was also
given a 15-year concurrent sentence for aggravated assault stemming from the
same incident.[74][75]

【在 r*******d 的大作中提到】
: BLM起源于Traction Martin事件,壮大于Michael Brown事件。
: 你给我们说说,这两个事件中哪个黑人是警察暴力的受害者?面对所谓受害者的攻击,
: 如果你是警察,你将如何?
: 警察击毙华人的事件真的不多。更多的是华人外卖郎被人抢劫杀害。还有上次福州女英
: 雄枪击三个抢匪。凶手或抢匪是什么人,我就不说了,大家都知道。

f*******y
发帖数: 470
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华裔联盟的声明说的很好,华人真要在这片土地生根壮大,必须团结一点一点的改变美
国社会对华人的偏见。
你的质疑反倒是莫名其妙

华人

【在 G******U 的大作中提到】
: BLM(曾经)很强大,不代表美国华人也要搞个基于种族的东西同样强大。
: 美国华裔联盟声称:
: “
: 请记住这些平凡而伟大的身影,他们的一小步是华人融入美国主流政治的一大步。这些
: 觉醒的先行者正在改变美国社会对华人的偏见,正在为子孙后代赢得应有的地位。华人
: 不再是那个”见大义而惜身,见小利而忘命” 卑微族裔。
: ”
: 可见种族自卑,自我歧视思想正是来自美国华裔联盟自身。
: 这把在朝鲜战场上为国奋战的吕超然将军的功劳彻底抹杀了!

G******U
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好吧,总结一下,我质疑的一共有三点:
1. 认为华裔是那个”见大义而惜身,见小利而忘命” 卑微族裔;
完全不同意。
2. 是华人融入美国主流政治的一大步。
80%不同意。
3. 以族裔立盟,也算是亚裔粗分了吧。
49.5%不同意。

【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 华裔联盟的声明说的很好,华人真要在这片土地生根壮大,必须团结一点一点的改变美
: 国社会对华人的偏见。
: 你的质疑反倒是莫名其妙
:
: 华人

t*******4
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Trayvon被诱杀?看门狗不要什么都舔,你看看trayvon的犯罪记录!

in
said,

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 齐默曼不是什么好鸟,现在基本可以肯定,吹望是被诱杀的。
: blm要真是什么暴力组织,他估计已经死了8回了。
: Other encounters with law enforcement
: Zimmerman has had other encounters with the law, including two incidents in
: 2005, five incidents in 2013, and other incidents in following years.[36]
: In July 2005, when he was 21, Zimmerman was arrested after shoving an
: undercover alcohol control agent while a friend of Zimmerman's was being
: arrested for underage drinking. The officer alleged that Zimmerman had said,
: "I don't care who you are," followed by a profanity, and had refused to
: leave the area after the officer had shown his badge.[37] The charges were

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D***I
发帖数: 1957
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只要是猪党那边的,全都是垃圾
r*******d
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你举的这两个是比那两个使BLM壮大的事件显得无辜些。
不过,这两个都有不听从指令甚至反抗警察的情况。
试想,如果这两个人听从警察的指令,会有那样的悲剧吗?
很明显,不会!
所以你单方面指责警察是不对的。
那个黑参议员的例子就更逗了。
不能因为是参议员了,就假设不会野蛮驾驶了。
另外,在你看来,是人被pull over,就可能转化为流血事件?
还是因为pull over某些人,就可能转化为流血事件?

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: ERIC GARNER, Philando Castile,多了去了。
: 南卡的那个黑参议员,一被被pull over 7,8次,任何一次都可能转化为流血事件。

r*******d
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你真逗。吹望最后被杀时,是不是骑在Zimmerman身上的?
在你看来是Zimmerman设计,故意躺在地上,让吹望猛打他的头,
然后掏枪射杀,所以是被诱杀的?
怎么个“基本可以肯定”?
你后面一堆的Zimmerman相关事件,大部分都是吹望事件发生之后的事。
那是因为O8政府毁了人家的生活。

in
said,

【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 齐默曼不是什么好鸟,现在基本可以肯定,吹望是被诱杀的。
: blm要真是什么暴力组织,他估计已经死了8回了。
: Other encounters with law enforcement
: Zimmerman has had other encounters with the law, including two incidents in
: 2005, five incidents in 2013, and other incidents in following years.[36]
: In July 2005, when he was 21, Zimmerman was arrested after shoving an
: undercover alcohol control agent while a friend of Zimmerman's was being
: arrested for underage drinking. The officer alleged that Zimmerman had said,
: "I don't care who you are," followed by a profanity, and had refused to
: leave the area after the officer had shown his badge.[37] The charges were

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