c*******e 发帖数: 5818 | 1 两周前我写了个贴“川普这一招不是一般的黑“说的是不管主党要不要deal都是输,结
果流泪叔先拒后同意输了个底掉,DACA生跑到叔家门口抗议,口号是你不让我做梦,我
不让你睡觉。这逻辑够nb的,不睡觉怎么做梦?白日梦可能。
这两天老川放出风来说,DACA在10-12年后可以给公民身份,消息一出,右派忧心忡忡
,左派一脸僵蒙,DACA生欢呼跳跃。告诉你把这一招更毒,如果左不同意,DACA会把泪
叔吃掉,主党自己也会分裂。
别急,我给你解读,我也叫叔但比那个主流流泪叔不是一个段位,我是低端叔。
先看老川的proposal
Legislatively Provides Legal Status – Individuals who received deferred
action on the basis of being brought to the U.S. as minors get a 3-year
renewable legal status allowing them to work and travel overseas (without
advance parole). There is no special path to a green card. Recipients may
only make use of existing paths to green cards
No Criminals – No gang members or those with criminal convictions/
convictions in juvenile court for serious crimes are eligible •
Combats Fraud – Strong anti-fraud measures/allows for prosecutions for
fraud
核心是给DACA好人三年合法缓冲期,在此期间可以工作学习(学生工作签证)和出国(
申请新签证),和绿卡和公民无关。有合法签证的DACA可以和其他合法在美国的外国人
一样按照常规途径申请绿卡和公民,假设DACA临时三年在美国,3年工作签证同时申请
绿卡,绿卡拿到后再申请公民已经是10-12年以后的事了。老川骗大家了吗?完全是诚
实准确的,让步了吗?半步也没让。换了个说法就把这些人绕晕了。
主流媒体和大部分无脑人都误以为DACA可以拿(直接)公民,什么后果?后果就是如果
民主党不同意这个deal,DACA把愤怒转向民主党,DACA人也会和以川普为核心的党中央
站在一起,共同和主党斗。
老川巧妙的把负资产转化为正资产,主党欲哭无泪,同意不同意都会输的很惨,而且会
发生内讧,为什么?因为主党议员们都专注于皮肤颜色了,脑子跟不上,比如破壳行特
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c*******e 发帖数: 5818 | 2 daddi 是你写的吧
赞一下!
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】 : 两周前我写了个贴“川普这一招不是一般的黑“说的是不管主党要不要deal都是输,结 : 果流泪叔先拒后同意输了个底掉,DACA生跑到叔家门口抗议,口号是你不让我做梦,我 : 不让你睡觉。这逻辑够nb的,不睡觉怎么做梦?白日梦可能。 : 这两天老川放出风来说,DACA在10-12年后可以给公民身份,消息一出,右派忧心忡忡 : ,左派一脸僵蒙,DACA生欢呼跳跃。告诉你把这一招更毒,如果左不同意,DACA会把泪 : 叔吃掉,主党自己也会分裂。 : 别急,我给你解读,我也叫叔但比那个主流流泪叔不是一个段位,我是低端叔。 : 先看老川的proposal : Legislatively Provides Legal Status – Individuals who received deferred : action on the basis of being brought to the U.S. as minors get a 3-year
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s*********g 发帖数: 368 | 3 哪里看得proposal?白宫网站只有这么几句
DACA LEGALIZATION: Provide legal status for DACA recipients and other DACA-
eligible illegal immigrants, adjusting the time-frame to encompass a total
population of approximately 1.8 million individuals.
10-12 year path to citizenship, with requirements for work, education and
good moral character.
Clear eligibility requirements to mitigate fraud.
Status is subject to revocation for criminal conduct or public safety and
national security concerns, public charge, fraud, etc. |
d***i 发帖数: 1 | 4 国会议员写的
https://judiciary.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/011018-Securing-
Americas-Future-Act-Final.pdf
【在 s*********g 的大作中提到】 : 哪里看得proposal?白宫网站只有这么几句 : DACA LEGALIZATION: Provide legal status for DACA recipients and other DACA- : eligible illegal immigrants, adjusting the time-frame to encompass a total : population of approximately 1.8 million individuals. : 10-12 year path to citizenship, with requirements for work, education and : good moral character. : Clear eligibility requirements to mitigate fraud. : Status is subject to revocation for criminal conduct or public safety and : national security concerns, public charge, fraud, etc.
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d***i 发帖数: 1 | 5 初来乍到多关照。谢。
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】 : daddi 是你写的吧 : 赞一下!
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s*********g 发帖数: 368 | 7 Goodlatte这个bill的确不错
【在 d***i 的大作中提到】 : 国会议员写的 : https://judiciary.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/011018-Securing- : Americas-Future-Act-Final.pdf
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c*******e 发帖数: 5818 | 10 可预期的,现在就看谁的pr 功力了!
:猪党已明确表示拒绝:
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t********i 发帖数: 7856 | 11 老床是这么说的:
Trump called it an "incentive" for the immigrants, who largely have known no
other country beside America, to work hard and do a "great job."
"If they do a great job, I think it's a nice thing to have the incentive of,
after a period of years, being able to become a citizen," Trump said.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/24/politics/trump-citizenship/index.html
老床说的很清楚:对于DACA生,你不是熬够5-7年就一定能拿绿卡(10-12年就能成为公
民)的。你必须 do a great job,才能给你公民(绿卡)作为 incentive。
但 do a great job 的标准是什么,老床没直说。
白宫的 proposal 里说了:There is no special path to a green card. (DACA)
Recipients may only make use of existing paths to green cards.
Existing paths 无非 EB 和 FB。难民和政庇显然不适用他们。
FB:有亲戚可以走chain immigration(不过到时候估计已经没了)。有能耐的可以搞
和美国公民/绿卡结婚(真假,同性异性都行)。绝大部分没亲戚没能耐的就没戏了。
然后就是 EB。据说 DACA 念完大学的不到7%。申请EB,呵呵......
我把各个美国媒体的报道大致看了一遍,虽然这个proposal被猪党议员拒绝了,但他们
拒绝的理由大多是反对250亿美元建墙,认为这对DACA的侮辱。其次是拒绝砍掉亲属移
民。但居然没人指出这个问题的。可见从媒体议员一直到DACA生都没人对移民法有所了
解的.......
老床对DACA就是一大忽悠啊......这个art of deal不是盖的......
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】 : 可预期的,现在就看谁的pr 功力了! : : :猪党已明确表示拒绝: : :
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b*****e 发帖数: 53215 | 12 那这就是freedom caucus的方案嘛
no
of,
【在 t********i 的大作中提到】 : 老床是这么说的: : Trump called it an "incentive" for the immigrants, who largely have known no : other country beside America, to work hard and do a "great job." : "If they do a great job, I think it's a nice thing to have the incentive of, : after a period of years, being able to become a citizen," Trump said. : http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/24/politics/trump-citizenship/index.html : 老床说的很清楚:对于DACA生,你不是熬够5-7年就一定能拿绿卡(10-12年就能成为公 : 民)的。你必须 do a great job,才能给你公民(绿卡)作为 incentive。 : 但 do a great job 的标准是什么,老床没直说。 : 白宫的 proposal 里说了:There is no special path to a green card. (DACA)
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