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发帖数: 20965 | 1 https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/a-nation-of-100000-
firefighters/article13647608/
Here in Toronto, firefighters recently won a 14-per-cent wage increase over
five years, which means that by next year, a first-class firefighter will be
making $90,000. But it's the small towns that are hit worst. Tiny Owen
Sound, Ont. (population 32,092), has 29 full-time fire professionals. Last
year, 25 of them made more than $100,000. The median full-time income of
people who live in Owen Sound is less than half that.
For smaller cities, the fire department is typically the largest item in the
budget. It accounts for upward of a quarter of their costs. But
municipalities are powerless to control firefighters' salaries, because
negotiations with the union almost always wind up in arbitration. And
arbitrators aren't obliged to give much weight to a town's ability to pay.
Instead, they simply match the settlements that everybody else got,
including police. So the costs spiral ever upward, and towns are forced to
cut back on libraries and roads. As Toronto city manager Joe Pennachetti
told the Toronto Sun: "We feel like we're banging our heads against the wall
." | t**x
发帖数: 20965 | 2 police per 100K people
China 115
US 284
Canada 185 | t**x
发帖数: 20965 | 3 Fewer fires, so why are there far more firefighters?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2015/09/04/05316abe-517c-11e5-933e-
7d06c647a395_story.html?utm_term=.6cc1f7855b04
Career firefighters usually live at the firehouse for a day or two, then
take as many as three days off. Between eating and sleeping at the station,
they mop floors, clean toilets and landscape the yard — with a few hours
set aside daily for training and drills. Mid-morning, you’ll find several
of them at the local supermarket doing the day’s grocery shopping.
In other words, being a firefighter these days doesn’t involve a lot of
fighting fire.
But oddly, as the number of fires has dropped, the ranks of firefighters
have continued to grow — significantly. There are half as many fires as
there were 30 years ago, but about 50 percent more people are paid to fight
them.
Local firefighter unions have fought hard to grow their ranks as fires
decline. Although private-sector unions have been diminishing,
representation of government employees has remained strong, and firefighters
have been among the beneficiaries. Labor contracts have allowed them to
maintain healthy incomes: Firefighters earned a median salary of $45,250 in
2012, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, but overtime can
more than double that. In Los Angeles, for example, the average firefighter
was paid more than $142,000 in 2013, including overtime and bonuses, the Los
Angeles Times reported. Exorbitant overtime costs are fueled by union-
negotiated minimum-staffing levels that often mandate four firefighters per
engine be on duty at all times, regardless of the cost or workload.
....
Not much has changed. Today, fewer than 4 percent of fire department calls
are for fires. Meanwhile, requests for medical aid more than quadrupled
between 1980 and 2013, to more than 21 million, according to the National
Fire Prevention Association. In other words, for every structure fire a fire
department responds to, it receives 44 medical calls, on average. | g*k
发帖数: 1797 | 4 不要见什么文章就发啊，我们小地方的fire fighter 一分钱不拿的，都是志愿者。整
个fire Department 都是居民捐钱建立和维护的。出车祸了有人被关在房子里了，救火
队都会出现场的，不仅仅是火警。大地方拿工资的救火队，你去看看人口构成？是很政
治正确的。
请珍惜这些为了我们出来做志愿者的人们。 | n******5
发帖数: 1990 | 5 回归欧洲古代的 feudal system，lord 决定屁民可以多交税，养他的家丁。 | A******e
发帖数: 655 | 6 十万每一分都值。不论哪一次打911没有一次五分钟不到的。有一次老爸老妈不会用炉
子，结果把墙给烧热了，他们一直等到墙的温度降下来才走的。还有一次也报警给我，
我刚来得及打电话过去询问，人家就告诉我人已经来过了，确认是false alarm.我打完
电话一看表还不到五分钟。 | n****g
发帖数: 14743 | 7 赞同。
【在 A******e 的大作中提到】
: 十万每一分都值。不论哪一次打911没有一次五分钟不到的。有一次老爸老妈不会用炉
: 子，结果把墙给烧热了，他们一直等到墙的温度降下来才走的。还有一次也报警给我，
: 我刚来得及打电话过去询问，人家就告诉我人已经来过了，确认是false alarm.我打完
: 电话一看表还不到五分钟。
| t**x
发帖数: 20965 | 8 这个是好， 就看你是否养得起了。
我个人认为， 美国必须节衣缩食。。。 你说很多普通家庭很多连400都拿不出来了，
咋养得起消防。。
【在 A******e 的大作中提到】
: 十万每一分都值。不论哪一次打911没有一次五分钟不到的。有一次老爸老妈不会用炉
: 子，结果把墙给烧热了，他们一直等到墙的温度降下来才走的。还有一次也报警给我，
: 我刚来得及打电话过去询问，人家就告诉我人已经来过了，确认是false alarm.我打完
: 电话一看表还不到五分钟。
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