d****g
发帖数: 7460 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Parenting 讨论区 】
发信人: dcbang (认真学习，不求结果，抗拒诱惑), 信区: Parenting
标 题: 华人，经济上和白人一致，但政治地位上不一致
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 17 11:25:15 2017, 美东)
＂从谁开始的呢？还不是从所谓的左派们宣扬要特殊照顾某些底层少数族裔开始的。＂
这个话题车箍路。右派说同性恋出柜是对非同性恋利益的伤害。。左派说同性恋不出柜
是对同性恋利益的伤害。。
左派还说了，对同的利益的伤害是巨大的，自杀的都有，对非同的伤害在哪里？在哪里
？右派说了，你对青少年有不良影响，当然是伤害！
最后，还是拿数据说话。同性恋出柜有没有影响青少年？黑人被特殊照顾后，是不是收
入如此的高？大学充斥着黑人？
当然了，右派眼里，被照顾进了好大学一个那也是不公平。。。所以对数据的容忍度也
不一样。
好吧，如果说就是看法不一样，数据都没用，听谁的？
这里左派和右派的重大区别是：右派相信少数服从多数。天经地义，参看我国宪法，参
看我们从小的集体教育。NO WONDER华人会朴素的成为伦理右派。事实上是，任何人都
会朴素的成为伦理右派。
伦理左派在这里采取了一个不朴素的姿势。多数人要照顾少数。照顾弱者。gblinda 贴
子里所抨击的＂特殊照顾某些底层少数族裔＂。
－－这个不朴素的姿势我都无法辩护。你要么信，要么不信。不信的人永远不能成为左
派。
华人，可以经济利益上和白人一致。但政治地位上绝对是少数人，不和白人一致。－－
－－这是事实！谁不服吗？
华人在美国能有今天，靠的是左派的不朴素的姿势。。如果美国没有黑人，是个白人右派
当道的国家，华人会更没有地位。。
ACTUALLY，IS IT TRUE？英国的华人出来说说？ | d****g
发帖数: 7460 | 2 冒似我错了。。亚裔在奥大立亚好象过的不错。。
https://www.quora.com/Are-Australians-more-racist-towards-Asians-than-
Americans
It's true that Asians are more discriminated against in Australia. This is
mostly because of the massive influx of Asian immigrants over the last few
years. I have also noticed that quite a few Asians struggle or simply do
not
care to assimilate Australian culture so that they can integrate into
Australian society. For some in Australia, this can be considered as
snottiness or arrogance, but as someone who has spent a considerable part
of
my life around Asians, I know it's just their introverted and oftentimes
gentle nature.
My best friend (basically my brother), is ethnically Chinese. He grew up in
Australia and was able to speak English perfectly and create friends across
a whole bunch of races because he was willing to adopt the Australian
cultural common ground that a lot of other people from various other
ethnicities were able to adopt.
I’m totally against asian racism, but nearly everyone holds some pre-
determined prejudicial viewpoint of someone just based on their race.
Stereotypes for the large part are going to remain and if that's all it
takes to ruffle someone’s feathers, then i suggest taking a teaspoon of
cement and hardening the hell up.
When I hear the word Asian, I automatically think of things like; rice,
noodles, hard working, driven, competitive, mathematics, discipline and
Cabramatta (If you’re from Sydney you'll get that). These in my opinion
aren't bad stereotypes. Being good at math, means you're good at something
that a lot of people struggle at. Being competitive and hardworking and
driven are compliments and not racially derogatory stereotypes.
When people hear the word Italian, they think: pizza, pasta, Ferrari,
Lamborghini and little Italy. These are all Italian stereotypes. Do they
offend me? Not even a little bit.
I personally love the hard working and competitive mindset that most Asians
have. I love their food and culture. My best friend is Asian. I’ve
travelled and lived around the whole world with him. I don’t consider
myself to be a racist and I still have subconscious stereotypes in my head.
If Asians in Australia were a little more forthcoming in even just slightly
integrating with other cultures, then they probably wouldn't feel like they'
re the more targeted race for racism.
Forget about the stereotypes, you shouldn't be offended by them. You guys
definitely have stereotypical ideas of other races ingrained in your head
too. Most people don't care about them and neither should you. As for
feeling more targeted, just try and integrate a little more. Many people
often feel like you want to be segregated and left alone, integration and
assimilation will totally abolish any hostility or stand-offishness that
others might have. | C*N
发帖数: 1792 | 3 华人在美国的今天，靠的是原来的政治强势者不再那么欺负政治弱势者， 给予你公平
的机会让你能够凭借个人的努力改善自己的生活，而不是靠别人降低标准，把饭端到你
面前来照顾华人。
现在另外的政治强势者要来欺负华人这个弱势者，剥夺你的机会，你觉得是应该的，正
义的？
华人在美国难道不是比黑人，劳模还少数的少数么， 为什么不照顾华人？
反而要牺牲华人这个少数族群的利益，来照顾多数族群的利益？
墨墨现在在美国还算是少数么？
左派根本是在颠倒黑白。
所谓的照顾少数，明明是左派在玩 identity politics 为了来搞选票的，真正的少数，
因为没有足够的选票， 肯定是不会被照顾的，本质上还是强势者欺负弱势者。
谁的政策牺牲华人利益少， 就支持谁，别以为人家口口声声少数多数，就以为连带你
也照顾上了，受照顾的少数民族不包括华人你不明白吗？ | r*********t
发帖数: 4911 | 4 "这里左派和右派的重大区别是：右派相信少数服从多数。天经地义，参看我国宪法，参
看我们从小的集体教育。NO WONDER华人会朴素的成为伦理右派。事实上是，任何人都
会朴素的成为伦理右派。" 出发点你就错了。右派至始至终的观点都是，只要不触犯法
律，少数永远都可以不服从多数。 | d****g
发帖数: 7460 | 5 你干嘛老把自己整的象受害者？
黑人抢你饭碗了吗？没有啊！我们公司一栋楼里就一个黑人。
数， | C*N
发帖数: 1792 | 6 强词夺理，看来你也是个不是讲道理的人
一个黑人你怎么就知道不是抢别人的饭碗？ 去政府机构办事，无恙无恙的黑人， 就不
会是抢了某个华人的饭碗？ 更不要说学校了。
【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 你干嘛老把自己整的象受害者？
: 黑人抢你饭碗了吗？没有啊！我们公司一栋楼里就一个黑人。
: 数，
| n****g
发帖数: 14743 | 7 惨哦
【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Parenting 讨论区 】
: 发信人: dcbang (认真学习，不求结果，抗拒诱惑), 信区: Parenting
: 标 题: 华人，经济上和白人一致，但政治地位上不一致
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 17 11:25:15 2017, 美东)
: ＂从谁开始的呢？还不是从所谓的左派们宣扬要特殊照顾某些底层少数族裔开始的。＂
: 这个话题车箍路。右派说同性恋出柜是对非同性恋利益的伤害。。左派说同性恋不出柜
: 是对同性恋利益的伤害。。
: 左派还说了，对同的利益的伤害是巨大的，自杀的都有，对非同的伤害在哪里？在哪里
: ？右派说了，你对青少年有不良影响，当然是伤害！
: 最后，还是拿数据说话。同性恋出柜有没有影响青少年？黑人被特殊照顾后，是不是收
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