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T**********e
发帖数: 29576
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Albert Cashier served in the army as a man, lived his life as man and was
buried at 71 with full military honors in 1915, as a man. But beneath the
uniform in which he fought and was buried, he was biologically a woman, one
of the many cross-dressers and gender defiers who have served in the U.S.
military since the earliest days of its history, according to historians.
President Trump’s proclamation by tweet Wednesday that he was banning
transgender people from serving in the military in “any capacity” is the
latest twist in a thoroughly modern controversy. Trump’s declaration would
overturn a policy only recently put in place by the Obama White House as the
armed forces continue to grapple with modern issues of gender identity and
sexual orientation. But behind the 21st century contretemps is a history
that predates the musket.
“They wouldn’t know what in the world you meant by the world transgender,
but there have women serving in men’s dress in armies since the beginning
of wars,” said Elizabeth Leonard, a professor of history at Colby College.
“It’s a story that we keep losing sight of.”
Cross-dressing has roiled the ranks of armies at least as far back as Joan
of Arc, the 15th century military genius who was burned at the stake for
heresies that included wearing a man’s uniforms. Leonard’s own expertise
is the Civil War, a time when the ranks were filled with hundreds of women
who cut their hair, put on pants and took up arms on both sides of the War
Between the States.
Researchers at the National Archives have found evidence that at least 250
women dressed as men to fight in the 1860s, some motivated by ideology, some
by a taste for adventure and some by the need for a job. Most of those who
survived presumably returned to their lives as women. But others continued
to live as men after the war.
Albert Cashier was born Jennie Hodgers in Ireland, immigrated to the United
States as a stowaway and, at 18, enlisted in the Illinois Infantry Regiment
as a man. After the war, in which he fought in some 40 actions, Cashier
continued to dress in trousers and, in the modern parlance, identify as a
man. He worked as a farmer and handyman for decades and missed out an army
pension after refusing to take a required physical exam, according to
scholar Jason Cromwell, the author of “Transmen and FTMs: Identities,
Bodies, Genders and Sexualities.”
Cashier’s anatomical secret only came out after he was injured in a 1911
car wreck and treated by doctors. He was committed to an insane asylum but
when his story was reported in newspapers, his former army comrades rallied
to ensure he was buried as a soldier and recognized on a monument at
Vicksburg as one of the Illinois soldiers who fought there.
Sarah Rosetta Wakeman was driven by poverty to work as a male canal boatman
and then sign up with a New York unit to fight for the Union Army. The
teenage girl passed as a 21-year-old man named Lyon Wakeman and bagged a $
154 signing bounty. Recruits were not always closely examined, Leonard said,
particularly toward the end of the war when armies on both sides were
desperate for “men” of any kind. Among boys barely past puberty, the
smooth face of a female impostor could easily have passed without remark.
“If you had teeth to tear open a cartridge and a working thumb and
forefinger, that was enough,” Leonard said.
Wakeman died in New Orleans of dysentery after the Red River Campaign and
was buried under a stone monument to “Lyon Wakeman.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/07/26/a-history-
lesson-for-trump-transgender-soldiers-served-in-the-civil-war/?utm_term=.
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m********g
发帖数: 10469
2
这说服力强都挖到了百年前,比文革婆子牛多了。婆子想砍点历史就只能讲到她当年闹
大东亚共荣那段,再往上婆子就抓瞎了,真吃没文化的亏。
s*********r
发帖数: 9493
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据说美军里现在有大约5000个transgender soldiers在服现役。
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
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小克时期的dont ask dont tell是最实际的,就是你私下爱直爱弯,军队不管。现在都
搬出来就成政治运动了

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 据说美军里现在有大约5000个transgender soldiers在服现役。
s*********r
发帖数: 9493
5
回头看,最近二十多年,也就是小克当总统算是靠谱点。

【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 小克时期的dont ask dont tell是最实际的,就是你私下爱直爱弯,军队不管。现在都
: 搬出来就成政治运动了

T**********e
发帖数: 29576
6

这文章把cross dresser当transgender说了,因为以前战斗部队不准女兵,有女扮男装
上前线的,按华邮圣女贞德和花木兰全尼玛是transgender,都该军队负责变性手术。

【在 m********g 的大作中提到】
: 这说服力强都挖到了百年前,比文革婆子牛多了。婆子想砍点历史就只能讲到她当年闹
: 大东亚共荣那段,再往上婆子就抓瞎了,真吃没文化的亏。

s**p
发帖数: 518
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如果你想变性参军,只要不花纳税人钱做变性手术,总统也不会管你的。但是你的奥总
强行让纳税人出钱替你做变性手术,这个就有点说不过去了。还是感谢川总吧,在家里
休息一下多好。做手术已经流了那么多血了,何必再去战场上流血呢
[在 sweetsister (sweetsister) 的大作中提到:]
:据说美军里现在有大约5000个transgender soldiers在服现役。
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
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同意,w到巴马这16年都是扯淡。

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 回头看,最近二十多年,也就是小克当总统算是靠谱点。
r**********f
发帖数: 2808
9
哈哈哈。 照华邮的说法,花木兰也是transgender了。

【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 同意,w到巴马这16年都是扯淡。

T**********e
发帖数: 29576
10

左逼先统一一下意见吧:transgender是不是病?

【在 s**p 的大作中提到】
: 如果你想变性参军,只要不花纳税人钱做变性手术,总统也不会管你的。但是你的奥总
: 强行让纳税人出钱替你做变性手术,这个就有点说不过去了。还是感谢川总吧,在家里
: 休息一下多好。做手术已经流了那么多血了,何必再去战场上流血呢
: [在 sweetsister (sweetsister) 的大作中提到:]
: :据说美军里现在有大约5000个transgender soldiers在服现役。

y****i
发帖数: 12114
11
不用纠结于细节,按照华邮的逻辑,南方农场主还可以大量使用黑奴,因为太祖华盛顿
也用过好多黑奴的。
f*******i
发帖数: 8492
12
说了半天,我就问一句,这人做了变性手术没?
没做变性手术,没打激素,算什么transgender

one
would
the

【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 左逼先统一一下意见吧:transgender是不是病?

m********g
发帖数: 10469
13
异装癖,现在所有这些左逼都要反过来当成正常行为,军队是否接纳是一个金标准。

【在 f*******i 的大作中提到】
: 说了半天,我就问一句,这人做了变性手术没?
: 没做变性手术,没打激素,算什么transgender
:
: one
: would
: the

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