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n******g
发帖数: 17225 | 1 好像是按照hate残疾人来定的hate crime，不是按照种族的 | T*********I
发帖数: 10729 | | l**s
发帖数: 20567 | | T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 4
早说过，hate crime就是老黑和lgbt的私有刑具，床铺该废除。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/32648655.html
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: 好像是按照hate残疾人来定的hate crime，不是按照种族的
| t******g
发帖数: 1815 | 5 IL law, first-time offense of hate crime 1-3 years in prison
aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, up to 15 years | n******g
发帖数: 17225 | 6 Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said Thursday that while the
suspects, all of whom are black, made “terrible racist statements” against
white people during the on-camera torture session, it did not appear to be
racially motivated.
Guglielmi said investigators initially concluded that the victim — who is
from Chicago’s Crystal Lake suburb and attended school with at least one of
his suspected captors — was singled out because he has “special needs,”
not because he is white.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/torture-attack-illinois-teen-not-racially-motivated-cops-article-1.2935818 | a********r
发帖数: 4013 | 7 真是神句
against
be
of
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【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said Thursday that while the
: suspects, all of whom are black, made “terrible racist statements” against
: white people during the on-camera torture session, it did not appear to be
: racially motivated.
: Guglielmi said investigators initially concluded that the victim — who is
: from Chicago’s Crystal Lake suburb and attended school with at least one of
: his suspected captors — was singled out because he has “special needs,”
: not because he is white.
: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/torture-attack-illinois-teen-not-racially-motivated-cops-article-1.2935818
| n****g
发帖数: 14743 | 8 hate 可以搞出任何麻烦
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: 好像是按照hate残疾人来定的hate crime，不是按照种族的
| n****g
发帖数: 14743 | 9 其实，Crystal Lake 根本就不算 Chicago
为毛 Chicago PD 跑出来说话？
against
be
of
”
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said Thursday that while the
: suspects, all of whom are black, made “terrible racist statements” against
: white people during the on-camera torture session, it did not appear to be
: racially motivated.
: Guglielmi said investigators initially concluded that the victim — who is
: from Chicago’s Crystal Lake suburb and attended school with at least one of
: his suspected captors — was singled out because he has “special needs,”
: not because he is white.
: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/torture-attack-illinois-teen-not-racially-motivated-cops-article-1.2935818
| b******n
发帖数: 3103 | 10 欺负残疾人罚的更重，更激起民愤，MSM很难spin吧？而且起诉罪名之一是aggravated
battery with a deadly weapon，加上受害者的性质，两罪并罚：
An aggravated battery is a Class 3 felony except in certain cases in which
it can be a Class X, 1, or 2 felony, depending on the circumstances, the
weapon involved, and the identity of the victim. 这个是指hate crime性质吗？
还是另算的？
Felony Classes in Illinois
Class 4 Felony. 1-3 years possible imprisonment. fines up to $25,000.
Class 3 Felony. 2-5 years possible imprisonment. fines up to $25,000.
Class 2 Felony. 3-7 years possible imprisonment. ...
Class 1 Felony. 4-15 years possible imprisonment. ...
Class X Felony. 6-30 years possible imprisonment.
//////////起诉的四项罪名：
1. Illinois law makes hate crimes “class 4 felonies,” which generally call
for a sentence of 1 to 3 years.
2. aggravated kidnapping, which is a class X felony, and which therefore
calls for a sentence of 6 o 30 years.
3. Committing a battery with a deadly weapon, including a firearm, is an
aggravated battery in Illinois. Battery with a firearm is a Class X felony.
Battery with a deadly weapon (other than a firearm) is a Class 3 felony.
(720 Ill. Comp. Stat. § 5/12-3.05.)
4. Aggravated unlawful restraint is a Class 3 felony in Illinois.
总结：class 4 felony (1-3yrs) + class x felony (6-30yrs) + class 3 or 2
felony (2-5yrs or 3-7yrs) + class 3 felony (2-10) = 11-50yrs
估计最后会plea bargain。全降一级的话：6-23yrs如果全部罪名能做实的话。
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: 好像是按照hate残疾人来定的hate crime，不是按照种族的
| b******n
发帖数: 3103 | 11 上面这些只是state level的，如果被联邦起诉了，光hate crime 一项就是10年刑期起：
Under federal hate crime legislation, bias-motivated violence is punishable
by ten years to life in prison, and some bias-motivated crimes are
punishable by the death penalty. (18 USC §§ 245, 249.)
就连WaPo这篇评论文章也说联邦起诉的可能也不排除：
The rules do differ when it comes to federal law: Federal law covers race-
based hate crimes generally (on the theory that such crimes perpetuate the
“badges and incidents of slavery,” and therefore Congress has the power to
punish such crimes under the 13th Amendment) but disability-based hate
crimes only when they relate in certain ways to interstate or foreign
commerce.
If the facts as described in the news story are correct, it’s possible —
though I’m not sure — that the live-streaming of the video of the attack
would be seen as “affect[ing] interstate or foreign commerce,” and would
thus trigger the federal statute.
Likewise if the attackers used a dangerous weapon, such as the knife
mentioned in the story, “that has traveled in interstate or foreign
commerce.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/01/05/
what-makes-a-crime-a-hate-crime-and-would-the-chicago-attack-qualify/
aggravated
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: 欺负残疾人罚的更重，更激起民愤，MSM很难spin吧？而且起诉罪名之一是aggravated
: battery with a deadly weapon，加上受害者的性质，两罪并罚：
: An aggravated battery is a Class 3 felony except in certain cases in which
: it can be a Class X, 1, or 2 felony, depending on the circumstances, the
: weapon involved, and the identity of the victim. 这个是指hate crime性质吗？
: 还是另算的？
: Felony Classes in Illinois
: Class 4 Felony. 1-3 years possible imprisonment. fines up to $25,000.
: Class 3 Felony. 2-5 years possible imprisonment. fines up to $25,000.
: Class 2 Felony. 3-7 years possible imprisonment. ...
| l**s
发帖数: 20567 | 12 哎，纳税人还要养他们
应该发配到叙利亚
起：
punishable
to
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: 上面这些只是state level的，如果被联邦起诉了，光hate crime 一项就是10年刑期起：
: Under federal hate crime legislation, bias-motivated violence is punishable
: by ten years to life in prison, and some bias-motivated crimes are
: punishable by the death penalty. (18 USC §§ 245, 249.)
: 就连WaPo这篇评论文章也说联邦起诉的可能也不排除：
: The rules do differ when it comes to federal law: Federal law covers race-
: based hate crimes generally (on the theory that such crimes perpetuate the
: “badges and incidents of slavery,” and therefore Congress has the power to
: punish such crimes under the 13th Amendment) but disability-based hate
: crimes only when they relate in certain ways to interstate or foreign
| j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 13 左婢把群众当傻子，群众把左婢当笑话
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: 好像是按照hate残疾人来定的hate crime，不是按照种族的
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