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p******e
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From dailykos
As a Chinese living in North America, I, for more than once, was shouted at
“Go back to your country”. If you haven’t had such an experience, lucky
you! What did I do about it? I quickly and silently walked off the scene.
Totally, totally, rational. Much is at stake. What if I am shot, what if I
am beaten… Did I feel mad after returning to a safe zone? Of course, I did.
If you didn’t, something is wrong with you. We work, pay tax, and
contribute here; why should we leave?
Human beings are complex animals, and we rationalize things. Good, because
we should. I could totally understand the economic anxiety (which perhaps is
not as well justified as claimed) in the Rust Belt, as well as some first-
generation Chinese's anxiety on Affirmative Actions, not mentioning numerous
Chinese on working visas have been waiting patiently and yet anxiously for
years to get a green card while undocumented immigrants might one day get
the same status. These are important things for every family. Get it!
However, are these the only things to consider? Let's imagine a company only
caring about its profit. It could do socially bad things such as pollution.
Even though the company might be better off in the short term, it, along
with all other companies, including individuals, will be worse off in the
long run. Often times, we have to make personal scarifies to achieve the
social good, because we are not isolated individuals. Same idea applies to
this election. Some of you must ask, “Since equality is for all, why are
Chinese, as a minority, not benefiting from Affirmative Actions?” Good
catch… I don’t know the exact answer, but I am fine with it. There are
other people who are more in need for help. Is it absolutely fair? I don’t
know, either. But, weren’t we also asked to help students who received bad
grades after school when we were kids? Is it fair to ask you—and I know you
once were an excellent student, because most first-generation Chinese in
North America are top performers in academics—but not others, to sacrifice
your play time? If you were happily doing what you were asked to do by then,
would you reconsider your position on Affirmative Actions? You don’t have
to change your opinion. I would be grateful, as long as you think about this
question for a few seconds. If Chinese, as a race, are unfortunately in
need for social support, I believe a just society would, and should, help us
. An administration like the newly-elected is unlikely to do this, however.
I know you still want to call me a self-righteous liberal. Fine… If this is
your belief, I would delightedly take on this label, even though I perhaps
am less progressive than you have had imagined.
On the surface, there is no apparent racial tension between Chinese and
other races in North America. After all, we don’t wear weird clothes, we
don’t practice a different religion… It would be a huge mistake to
characterize many white working-class voters as racist, but they tolerated
what shouldn’t have been tolerated. Mind you, in 1930s, Jews also enjoyed
their comfortable life before things went south. What happens to Muslims
today could, God forbid, happen to us Chinese tomorrow. Many Japanese were
incarcerated in concentration camps in WWII (although mainly due to fear,
instead of hate); forget about your citizenship, only race mattered in this
case. We tell us this won’t happen again. Can you completely rule out the
possibility? If you cannot, the best thing to do perhaps is to simply hope
the silent majorities are the Schindler to you. Otherwise you are doomed.
“That's what a seventh grade, eighth grade bully does. And he was elected
president of the United States. We would have scolded our kids. We would
have had discussions until we were blue in the face trying to get them to
understand these things.” (--Popovich, head coach at Spurs). As adults, we
have way too many things in our objective functions. Yes, we rationalize…
but how do we rationalize what has been observed and teach it to our kids? I
would be happy to see some constructive suggestions.
I believe there is always a small “c” in my DNA, and I am always open to
conservative ideologies. But, as far as I am concerned, this election is not
about ideology, but about identity– perhaps, the same applies to the
opposite side, as well, albeit with a different reason. So, my choice is
unequivocal, and I do take this election very personally. What has been
saddening me more perhaps is not the outcome, but the hate and division
busted through one candidate's campaign. If you voted for this candidate, it
is Okay; I won't unfriend you. I only hope you, when you were in the voting
booth with the hope of achieving your own short-term objectives, at least
felt a little ashamed for silently tolerating all the inappropriate deeds.
j*********r
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发信人: Scania88 (Scania88), 信区: USANews
标 题: 揭开80-20促进会的虚伪面具
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 2 01:16:09 2016, 美东)
这些年关心政治的朋友一定对一个叫做“80-20促进会”的亚裔组织不陌生。 其创始人叫
吴仙标 (SB Woo), 是个老牌民主党, 曾担任美国特拉华州(Delaware)众议院主席
及副州长。 该组织成立于1998年,自称无党派中立组织。其宗旨是促进亚裔, 尤其是
华裔美国人积极参政的政治组织, 并呼吁亚裔、华裔通过"封杀投票"式(bloc vote)
,在美国总统大选中集中80%的亚裔选票阻止不合格的候选人当选。
读到这里一切看上去很美。但是事实果真如此吗?让我们来看看80-20的历史业绩,然
后读者自然会得出自己的结论。
1) 该组织一贯标榜自己是 “nonpartisan” (见题图),但自从其成立以来近二十年
,从来没有号召其成员投票共和党。80-20 历经2000,2004, 2008,2012,及2016 五
次大选。 这五次大选,80-20无一例外地为民主党候选人背书。 这100%的民主党背书
的记录不得不让我们联想到SB Woo的资深民主党背景。 虽然号称中立,可其明显偏但
民主党的政治倾向已经远远背离中立宗旨。单凭这一点,我们就有权怀疑其信用度。说
得更不客气一点儿,就是我们有权质疑该组织是否有表面挂中立大旗, 实际为民主党
拉票的政治目的。 下面这是80-20在2008年为希拉里做的广告:
这就是80-20的“nonpartisan"
2) 该组织自称有EMAIL 成员七十万人,自成立以来也募捐无数。可是大家看看这么多
年这么多钱他们做了那些真正对华人有利的实事?下面这个链接列举了80-20的十大成
就,我研究了一下,除了阻止一个广告的播出,让一个服装商撤了一批有辱华倾向的T
恤衫之外,都是对民主党的变相背书和对共和党的指控。尤其是第三项于2000年成功游
说民主党竞选团队答应一个亚裔内阁成员, 还由于戈尔最终败选没有实现。该组织屡
次指责共和党不回答他们递交的问卷,并把这个当作他们不支持共和党的重要理由。我
想提醒大家一下,是小布什的共和党政府任命了美国第一任华裔内阁成员赵小兰女士。
民主党候选人奥巴马的竞选团队确实回答了他们的问卷,可过去8年对华裔作了哪些实
际的好事? 在华人最关心的AA平权上不但不遵守诺言,反而为满足黑人和西裔的利益
加速排挤和打压华人利益。 所以我要质疑: 80-20 拿了华人这么多钱去支持一个对华
人明显歧视的党派长达二十年,这算不算汉奸行为? 这里是80-20标榜其“十大成就”
的链接:http://goo.gl/RjjNXu
3) 80-20自称用“single issue” , 即重点单项议题作为其背书政治党派的标准。这
个做法过于一刀切而忽视了广大华人社区的多元化的特点。比如在福利问题上,有工作
能自食其力的华人就反对民主党无节制扩大福利制度的做法,而很多生活处于贫困阶层
的华裔会为了保护其福利而投票民主党。80-20一刀切地号召80%的华人投民主党的票就
是企图在政治上绑架前一部分选民。这是典型的政治精英思想:我已经为你们决定好了
,你们不要再多想,就按我说的做好了。对不起,我们华人现在的组成越来越多元化,
也有越来越多有思想,有才华,有观点,我们自己会分析哪个政党的政策对华人有利,
不需要一个民主党老牌政客以精英的姿态来告诉我什么对我好,我该如何投票,我自己
会决定和判断。
4) 最后谈一下80-20刚出炉的应对AA平权法案的绝妙策略。SB Woo 于七月四日发表了
最新告全体华人书,信中提出应对六月底由美国最高法院维持原判的AA平权法案的策略
。这个法案将对华人和白人的就学歧视和排挤基本合法化了。 80-20 的应对策略如下:
a. We embrace the importance of diversity to education. Hence, we consent
that AsAmstudents shall yield an advantage of 450 SAT points to African
American students, and yield a 270 SAT point advantage to Hispanic students,
in order to have equal access to elite colleges. This commitment lasts as
long as the higher education institutions deem it desirable。
这段话的中文翻译如下:我们充分认同美国高等教育多元化的重要性,所以我们同意在
大学入学考试SAT 成绩上亚裔需比非裔高出450分,比西裔高出270分。这样可以确保各
个族裔拥有进入高校的平等机会。对那些认同此倡议的高等院校我们的决心是长久不变
的。
b. We strongly resent that Asian American applicants have to score 140 SAT
points higher than white applicants in order to gain equal access。
这段话的中文翻译如下: 我们强烈反对亚裔学生SAT成绩高出白人学生140分的常规,
这同样是为了保证每个族裔有平等的入学机会。
看到这个策略我差点没吐出一口血!什么!这是真的吗?80-20 这个一贯号称为华人争
取权益的组织为什么自贱到主动给黑人和拉丁裔人SAT加分,为什么又要坚决抵制给白
人加分? 这是什么思路和逻辑? 我百思不得其解。 就好比来了三个强盗抢钱,被抢
的同意给穿黑衣和棕衣的强盗每人分别450块和270块,却誓死抗争不给穿白衣的强盗他
要求的140块钱。 这是为什么? 我思考了很久,终于品出个中一丝滋味。原来80-20从
来没把华人当成这个国家的主人,从来都是雇农心态,所以才会自觉地讨好黑人和老墨
这两个脾气大且人多势众的群体,并自卑地献上自家辛辛苦苦收获的果实。 而对势力
越来越弱的白人群体却马上摆出一幅平起平坐的架势。
众所周知,民主党自奥巴马上台以来不断推出排挤华人的各种政策。 加州的SCA-5和
AB1726,联邦政府对AA平权法案的维持,以及前几天奥巴马与30多家硅谷科技公司签署
的公司必须按比例招收黑人和老墨的合同,这一个个法案或合同的紧急出台剑剑刺向华
人的最根本利益。 我们华人虽属少数族裔,但世代勤恳劳作, 鼓励后代努力学习考出
好成绩、找到好工作、过个好日子。 华人从19世纪的苦力阶层发展到如今的高收入阶
层靠的是国家的好政策和整个族裔的努力上进。 我们没去抢黑人,墨裔和白人的利益
。 在这个鼓励个人奋斗的国家我们在不断地进步。 可是现在这个号称为全体华人争取
权益的80-20竟公然鼓动不明真相的华人朋友在2016继续投票希拉里,并鼓励华人家长
和学生主动把自己十几年寒窗苦读的成果分给黑人和墨裔。 这是何等的自卑与自虐,
又是何等的虚伪和欺骗!
2016 年大选对美国,对华人都是历史性的一次大选。 在日益恶劣的政治环境下,越来
越多的华人参政议政并渐渐看清了民主党多年来打种族牌取悦黑人和墨裔票仓的目的。
80-20 这个本质民主党的华人组织挂羊头卖狗肉出卖华人最根本利益,是个彻头彻尾的
虚伪中立组织, 是该揭穿其奇面具的时候了。 华人朋友们,珍惜手中的神圣一票,不
要盲目听信80-20及其类似组织的鼓动继续投票给民主党的希拉里。 共和党长期以来鼓
励个人努力能者多劳,奖勤罚懒,与我们华人的传统理念十分相近。朋友们,是该考虑
投共和党一票的时候了。 希望我们华人拧成一股绳,不仅要努力工作和学习创造美好
生活,更要用手中神圣的选票保卫美好的生活。
b******s
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说的很好
d******y
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North America = Canada?
看来加拿大白左是真racist

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【在 p******e 的大作中提到】
: From dailykos
: As a Chinese living in North America, I, for more than once, was shouted at
: “Go back to your country”. If you haven’t had such an experience, lucky
: you! What did I do about it? I quickly and silently walked off the scene.
: Totally, totally, rational. Much is at stake. What if I am shot, what if I
: am beaten… Did I feel mad after returning to a safe zone? Of course, I did.
: If you didn’t, something is wrong with you. We work, pay tax, and
: contribute here; why should we leave?
: Human beings are complex animals, and we rationalize things. Good, because
: we should. I could totally understand the economic anxiety (which perhaps is

b******2
发帖数: 573
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这个是老大爷豪华版
但是dailykos这个歇斯底里的地方,没有中国人读者啊
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