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发帖数: 6571 | 1 WikiLeaks: Hillary Clinton’s Claim of Russian Espionage ‘Immediately
Disprovable Whopper’
“What’s really important about WikiLeaks is that the Russian government
has engaged in espionage against Americans,” Hillary Clinton said at the
third presidential debate on Wednesday night.
“They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people,
of institutions. Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the
purpose of putting it on the Internet. This has come from the highest levels
of the Russian government, clearly, from Putin himself, in an effort — as
17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed — to influence our election,
” she continued.
Video: Opinion Journal: Hacking Democrats
WikiLeaks assailed Clinton’s claim via Twitter on Thursday afternoon:
Clinton's "17 US intelligence agencies" may be the biggest, most
immediately disprovable wopper ever intentionally made during a debate.
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 20, 2016
Hillary Clinton’s “17 US intelligence agencies” include:
*Coast Guard
*DEA
*Navel Intelligence
*Department of Energy
*Air Force recon
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 20, 2016
WikiLeaks got a little backup from a somewhat surprising source, as Politico
gave Clinton’s statement a mostly negative fact-check. While they were
willing to accept the “17 intelligence agencies” tally, they pointed out
that contrary to Clinton’s assertions, those agencies have not stated that
Vladimir Putin personally ordered any such operation. Fingers were pointed
at “Russia’s senior-most officials,” but not Putin himself.
More importantly, Politico notes that “while the intelligence community
said that leaks earlier this year from WikiLeaks were ‘consistent with the
methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts,’ it has not directly
tied the recent WikiLeaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s
personal emails to Russia. When Clinton made these remarks during the debate
, she was responding to a question on the content of the Podesta leaks.”
However, on Thursday afternoon, Politico reported cyber-security firm
SecureWorks and information-technology website Motherboard said they had
found evidence strongly suggesting Russia’s “Fancy Bear” military hacking
unit was involved in compromising Podesta’s email:
According to the cybersecurity firm SecureWorks, Podesta unwittingly
gave Russian hackers access to his Gmail account by clicking a Bitly link
that redirected him to a fake Google login page, where he entered his
credentials.
The fake Google domain in that link — first reported Thursday by
Motherboard — matches one the hacker group Fancy Bear has employed in a
wide-ranging spear-phishing campaign that has also targeted major U.S.
political institutions, Clinton campaign figures and other top officials.
“The Google-spoofing domain in the Motherboard article is one we
observed used by Fancy Bear,” SecureWorks researcher Tom Finney told
POLITICO in an email.
Security researchers have long tied Fancy Bear to Russia’s military
intelligence agency, the GRU.
Motherboard, which said the same hackers used the same technique to
compromise former Secretary of State Colin Powell’s email, posted images of
the code from Bitly (a link-shortening service). They said it came from a
batch of 9,000 spear-phishing links sourced to two accounts linked to Fancy
Bear, which evidently “forgot to set those accounts to private,” a “grave
mistake” which allowed investigators to trace much of their activity.
The same security researchers found evidence that those Bitly accounts were
used to target 108 email addresses pulled from Hillary Clinton’s email
server.
“None of this new data constitutes a smoking gun that can clearly frame
Russia as the culprit behind the almost unprecedented hacking campaign that
has hit the DNC and several other targets somewhat connected to the U.S.
presidential election,” Motherboard concedes, speculating that intelligence
agencies may have “data no one else can see.”
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/10/20/wikileaks-clintons-claim-russian-espionage-immediately-disprovable-whopper/ |
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r**********f
发帖数: 2808 | 3 希拉里的“17个情报机构”，要么是撒谎，要么是泄密， 要么都是。
希拉里在第三次辩论里，牛逼哄哄， 又有“17个情报机构”的信息， 又知道怎么发核
弹。
一个到处泄密，被FBI调查， 违反各种制度的人竟然没有被掳掉对“情报机构”的权限
， 还大吹特吹就她知道， how shameful, how pathetic. |
g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 4 “According to the cybersecurity firm SecureWorks, Podesta unwittingly
gave Russian hackers access to his Gmail account by clicking a Bitly link
that redirected him to a fake Google login page, where he entered his
credentials.” |
m***r
发帖数: 798 | 5 你的泄密标准还是在中国的时候学的吧
【在 r**********f 的大作中提到】
: 希拉里的“17个情报机构”，要么是撒谎，要么是泄密， 要么都是。
: 希拉里在第三次辩论里，牛逼哄哄， 又有“17个情报机构”的信息， 又知道怎么发核
: 弹。
: 一个到处泄密，被FBI调查， 违反各种制度的人竟然没有被掳掉对“情报机构”的权限
: ， 还大吹特吹就她知道， how shameful, how pathetic.
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发帖数: 6571 | 6 “None of this new data constitutes a smoking gun that can clearly frame
Russia as the culprit behind the almost unprecedented hacking campaign that
has hit the DNC and several other targets somewhat connected to the U.S.
presidential election,” Motherboard concedes, speculating that intelligence
agencies may have “data no one else can see.”
——没有证据表明是俄国干的，更没有证据表明是普京下令干的，所以希拉里在三辩上
的指控，又是信口开河，撒谎。 |
t*******d
发帖数: 12895 | |
j*********r
发帖数: 24733 | |
b*******g
发帖数: 6008 | 9 这个17个情报机构上个星期CNN就开始搞了，换台的时候看见了就看了几分钟。男主持
叫什么名字我不记得了，我一般不看电视所以不熟，年纪比较大觉得胡子拉擦的，找了
个以前国会情报委员会的老川支持者（可能是老川的advisor，我也不熟）问他相不相
信，因为17家情报机构100%肯定，那老头说没看见这个简报不好说，主持就反复强调是
100%肯定你为什么不相信，那个老头说根据他30年的经验，没见过任何情报机构给100%
的报告，然后扯到wikileak对方立马打断了。希婆现在拼命把wikileak和俄国还有老川
连起来。 |
g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 10 我也听到过NPR采访某专家的，只听了部分，专家的结论是：凡是到处流传的情报机构
说如何如何，都不是真的，因为情报机构不会把真料透露出来。 |
n********d
发帖数: 7676 | 11 你们是不是不看主流媒体，只看小道消息啊？这个是说USIC, which includes 17
intelligence agencies.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-
security-and-office-director-national |
b*******g
发帖数: 6008 | 12 这个得去问希婆，她想拿17家来唬老百姓啊
【在 n********d 的大作中提到】
: 你们是不是不看主流媒体，只看小道消息啊？这个是说USIC, which includes 17
: intelligence agencies.
: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-
: security-and-office-director-national
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n********d
发帖数: 7676 | 13 吓唬不吓唬，确实是17家啊。https://www.dni.gov/index.php/intelligence-
community/members-of-the-ic 在加上 the Office of the Director of National
Intelligence 发的联合声明。
【在 b*******g 的大作中提到】
: 这个得去问希婆，她想拿17家来唬老百姓啊
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g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 14 我们相信情报专家的，情报机构不会把真东西放出来。
【在 n********d 的大作中提到】
: 你们是不是不看主流媒体，只看小道消息啊？这个是说USIC, which includes 17
: intelligence agencies.
: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-
: security-and-office-director-national
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