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w***w
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所有的poll都是希拉里领先;
川普只在不限制投票次数的poll领先。
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/12/media/donald-trump-polls/index.html
Donald Trump has a new target: "Crooked polls."
With Hillary Clinton extending her lead nationwide and in key battleground
states, Trump is toying with what might be called "poll denialism," giving
his supporters license to dismiss the discouraging data.
"Even the polls are crooked," he said at a Monday night rally, expressing
disbelief that he is losing to Clinton in Pennsylvania. "Look, we're in a
rigged system."
Trump has only topped Clinton in one scientifically conducted poll in
Pennsylvania since it became clear he would be the GOP's nominee back in
April, while Clinton has been in the lead in 18 of them. In the most recent
polls, Clinton holds a double-digit lead there.
On Tuesday when Bill O'Reilly told him that "you're behind with women,"
Trump responded, "I'm not sure I believe it. I'm not sure I believe it."
Nearly every national poll finds Clinton well ahead among women, and she
holds a 17-point lead among women in the most recent national polling on the
race from NBC and the Wall Street Journal.
At a rally Tuesday night, Trump told fans, "The polls are pretty even in
Florida. Don't let me down!"
donald trump pennsylvania rally
Trump's assessment was true a month ago, but in more recent polling, Cinton
holds a narrow lead over Trump in all the scientific polling conducted since
the first debate.
Some of Trump's bullish talk is run-of-the-mill campaign rhetoric --
rallying the base -- but there are times when Trump and his aides are
clearly misleading voters.
Trump told O'Reilly that "Virtually everybody, other than, you know, some
crooked polls, said that we won the debate easily."
In fact, every scientific poll of debate watchers found that Clinton was the
victor.
O'Reilly did not interject to correct Trump.
But MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell was blunt about the reality on his Tuesday
night program: "There is no real poll showing Donald Trump winning the
second debate."
On Twitter earlier in the day, Trump said "every poll" showed him winning in
a "landslide."
Trump's apparent source for this belief: Unscientific online surveys
published by sites like The Drudge Report and Breitbart. These surveys allow
people to vote multiple times and don't purport to measure nationwide
public opinion. At best, the surveys may measure enthusiasm.
Related: The problem with Donald Trump's 'we won every poll' claim
Trump read the survey results aloud at a rally on Monday night. "Drudge is a
great guy, right?" he said.
Some news outlets that posted "who won?" surveys after the first debate
decided not to do so after the second debate, apparently as a result of
Trump incorrectly portraying the data.
Trump sometimes cites the size of his crowds as evidence that the race is
more competitive than the polls indicate. Virtually all political experts
dismiss the anecdotal evidence that crowd size can provide as a real
predictor of election results.
NBC late night host Seth Meyers joked about it on Tuesday night: "Just
because you draw big crowds doesn't mean you're winning the election. If all
you needed to win was a big crowd of people, our next president would be
Ikea on a Saturday."
A campaign fundraising email from Eric Trump on Wednesday cited "huge gains"
and contained a map showing blue states changing to red. This positive spin
is not backed up by the facts; indeed, FiveThirtyEight suggested that Eric
Trump may have been using a map it produced showing what would happen if
only men voted.
Trump spokesman Jason Miller cited crowd size and pro-Trump "energy" during
a Wednesday morning interview on Fox News. Miller said the GOP nominee had a
"great bounce" in polls after the second debate and predicted this: "I
think by the time we wake up tomorrow, I think this is probably going to be
a dead even race. Maybe even Mr. Trump ahead by a little bit."
Later in the same hour, political scientist Larry Sabato said on Fox, "I don
't know how he came up with that one."
In 2012, there was an active effort by some conservatives to cast doubt
about the polls that showed President Obama prevailing over Mitt Romney.
This so-called "unskewed polls" movement is now a punchline.
CNN polling director Jennifer Agiesta contributed reporting.
h*******n
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先把主党和党中间选民比例 男女比例拉出来再说poll吧
G****e
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说过多少遍了,希拉里那么多竞选经费,就是用来买polls and endorsements,数据好
看,结果会很难堪的。
q***a
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一看到是CNN,我就呵呵了。

【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 所有的poll都是希拉里领先;
: 川普只在不限制投票次数的poll领先。
: http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/12/media/donald-trump-polls/index.html
: Donald Trump has a new target: "Crooked polls."
: With Hillary Clinton extending her lead nationwide and in key battleground
: states, Trump is toying with what might be called "poll denialism," giving
: his supporters license to dismiss the discouraging data.
: "Even the polls are crooked," he said at a Monday night rally, expressing
: disbelief that he is losing to Clinton in Pennsylvania. "Look, we're in a
: rigged system."

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