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l****z
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US Abandons Scheme to Arm Rebels, Instead Adopts Rand Paul's Proposal to
Arm Kurds; Hillary Flashbacks
Russian interference in Syria has had one positive aspect already: US Scraps
Scheme to Create Syrian Rebel Force.
The US is halting a controversial $500m programme to create a rebel
force in Syria after concluding that it was having practically no impact in
the battle against Isis fighters in the war-torn country.
Instead of trying to build up a new force of fighters — training them
outside Syria and then sending them back in equipped — the Pentagon will
now focus on arming and training a smaller number of leaders of Arab and
Kurdish groups in Syria that have had some success fighting the Islamist
militant group Isis.
Since arming Syrian al Qaeda "rebel" terrorists was always a bad idea, I
would call this bit of news a distinct positive.
Hillary Flashbacks
Last Year the Guardian reported Hillary Clinton Wanted to Arm Syrian Rebels,
Memoir Reveals.
On February 1, 2015, the Washington Times reported Secret Benghazi Report
Reveals Hillary’s Libya War Push Armed al Qaeda-Tied Terrorists.
On July 1, in the Washington Times article Hillary’s Secret War Judge
Andrew Napolitano listed his conclusion after reviewing documents and emails
from a period in which Hillary Clinton was secretary of state.
Napolitano stated "What I saw has persuaded me beyond a reasonable doubt and
to a moral certainty that Mrs. Clinton provided material assistance to
terrorists and lied to Congress in a venue where the law required her to be
truthful."
Succession of Bad Ideas
Recall that one of the reasons president Bush gave for invading Iraq was
that Hussein was harboring al Qaeda. In reality, al Qaeda did not exist in
Iraq to any degree until the US invaded and put in a dangerously unstable
government. ISIS was the direct result.
In the wake of the Iraq mess, the US armed alleged "moderate rebels" in
three places. It backfired in Libya, Iraq, and Syria.
Arming al Qaeda is absurd.
Rand Paul on Arming Kurds
In a March 10 interview, senator Rand Paul said Arm the Kurds to Battle ISIS
and Radical Islam, Give Them Kurdistan.
In an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, likely 2016 GOP
presidential candidate Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) staked out a bold position on a
foreign policy matter—pushing to arm Kurdish fighters against the Islamic
State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) even more than the U.S. has already done, but
also calling for the creation of a new nation of Kurdistan.
“Part of the problem is the Kurds aren’t getting enough arms,” Paul
said. “The Kurds are the best fighters. The arms are going through Baghdad
to get to the Kurds and they’re being siphoned off and they’re not getting
what they need. I think any arms coming from us or coming from any European
countries ought to go directly to the Kurds. They seem to be the most
effective and most determined fighters.”
“But I would go one step further: I would draw new lines for Kurdistan
and I would promise them a country,” Paul said.
Map-Making Problems
Should the US be drawing lines, promising to build countries? Or should the
US tell the Kurds that if they create a country, the US would recognize it?
Something else?
A Wikipedia Map of Kurdistan highlights the issues with re-drawing lines.
"Contemporary use of the term refers to four parts of a greater Kurdistan,
which include parts of southeastern Turkey (Northern Kurdistan), northern
Syria (Western Kurdistan), northern Iraq (Southern Kurdistan), and western
Iran (Eastern Kurdistan). Some Kurdish nationalist organizations seek to
create an independent nation state of Kurdistan, consisting of some or all
of the areas with Kurdish majority, while others campaign for greater
Kurdish autonomy within the existing national boundaries."
The Kurds are fighting ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Turkey is fighting the Kurds
in Turkey.
Turkey does not want an independent Kurdistan in Iraq for fear it will lose
part of Turkey in the process. And what about Iran? Would it cede territory
to a new Kurdish state?
Simply put, the US should not be in the map-making business. Nor should the
US arm terrorists. But what is the definition of terrorist?
Terrorism in the Eyes of the Beholder
The US has a definition of "terrorist" that it frequently and foolishly
overlooks with terrible results.
Syria has a definition that would include US-backed al Qaeda rebels.
Turkey has a definition that would include the independence-minded Kurds
in Turkey.
The Kurds have a fourth definition, and Iran a fifth.
Of course Lebanon, Israel, and the Palestinians all have their
overlapping definitions too.
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In an unfortunate incident this weekend, Twin Blasts at Turkish Peace Rally
Kill at Least 86.
A twin bombing in Ankara has killed at least 86 people at a peace rally,
the deadliest attack in Turkey’s history.
The blasts took place on Saturday near a train station where a crowd of
supporters of the Peoples’ Democracy Party (HDP) had gathered ahead of the
rally to protest against armed clashes between security forces and Kurdish
insurgents.
Authorities have called the attack an act of terror and are said to be
looking into reports that two suicide bombers were involved.
The bombing comes just three weeks ahead of an early election in which
the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) hopes to regain the
parliamentary majority it lost in the June poll after a surprisingly strong
showing by the pro-Kurdish HDP.
The run-up to the November 1 vote has already been marred by widespread
violence across the country, particularly in the Kurdish south-east, after
the collapse of a ceasefire between the government and the Kurdistan Workers
’ Party (PKK).
Kurdistan Worker's Party
Wikipedia reports the Kurdistan Worker's Party "(PKK) is usually used
interchangeably for the name of its armed wing, the People's Defence Force (
HPG), which was formerly called the Kurdistan National Liberty Army (ARGK).
The PKK is listed as a terrorist organization internationally by several
states and organizations, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (
NATO) and the European Union. However countries such as India, China, Russia
, Switzerland and Egypt have not designated the PKK as a terrorist
organization. Also, the UN has not listed the PKK as a terrorist
organisation."
Mideast Mapmaking
Reason.Com had these comments on mapmaking.
Paul didn't merely say that if the Kurds succeed in carving out a
territory, the U.S. should recognize it. He said America should actively
involve itself in launching the state and establishing its borders.
Eugene McCarthy once wisecracked that you can blame most of the world's
problems on British mapmakers, who casually carved countries out of their
dying empire without regard for whether the boundaries they were drawing
made much sense.
I can't say I have much faith that mapmakers based in Washington would
do a more impressive job — and I have even less faith that it would be
worth any ordinary American's while to get tangled up in the conflicts that
would inevitably follow.
Mish Proposals
Let's get out of the map-making business, forever.
If the Kurds want to fight ISIS, it's reasonable to help them on the
grounds this is their legitimate battle, not ours, and also because ISIS is
essentially a US creation. Also note that ISIS, unlike Saddam Hussein, is a
potential security threat, if not a genuine one already.
If Russia wants to take on ISIS, let them, or better yet, welcome them.
No US troops
Let's get to the bottom of this Hillary mess, whatever it takes.
B**W
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Bama is good at adjusting strategy. Two real enemies in the middle east,
Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

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【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: US Abandons Scheme to Arm Rebels, Instead Adopts Rand Paul's Proposal to
: Arm Kurds; Hillary Flashbacks
: Russian interference in Syria has had one positive aspect already: US Scraps
: Scheme to Create Syrian Rebel Force.
: The US is halting a controversial $500m programme to create a rebel
: force in Syria after concluding that it was having practically no impact in
: the battle against Isis fighters in the war-torn country.
: Instead of trying to build up a new force of fighters — training them
: outside Syria and then sending them back in equipped — the Pentagon will
: now focus on arming and training a smaller number of leaders of Arab and

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