l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 1 Sick Man of Europe is Europe; Blame the Socialists, Progressives, Greens,
and the Euro Itself
Joel Kotkin writing for New Geography hits the nail smack on the head with
his assessment Sick Man of Europe is Europe.
Throughout the continent, public support for a united Europe fell
sharply last year. Opposition to greater integration has emerged, with anti-
EU parties gaining support in countries as diverse as the United Kingdom,
Greece, Germany and France.
The new reality is epitomized by France’s ascendant far-right political
figure, Marine Le Pen, who is now leading in many polls to win the next
presidential election.
These attitudes suggest that the EU could be devolving from a nascent
super-state to something that increasingly resembles the Holy Roman Empire,
a fragmented landscape of small, unimportant states wrapped in a unitary,
but ephemeral crepe. This challenges the view of some Americans,
particularly but not only on the left, who see Europe as a role model for
the U.S.
Some pundits, such as Paul Krugman, routinely describe Europe’s
approach to economic, environment and social policy as more enlightened than
America’s. Wherever possible, progressives push for European-style action
in areas such as curbing carbon emissions and rapidly converting to “green
” energy.
Several years ago Germany and the Netherlands were exemplars as opposed
to the much-disdained PIGS (Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain). But German
growth rates have plummeted, going negative in the last quarter, along with
France and Italy. More stagnation is likely as energy costs surge and key
export markets, notably in Russia and China, begin to contract. Today, the
“sick man” of Europe is not any one country, or collection of countries;
the “sick man of Europe” is Europe.
Europe’s poor economy stems in large part from policy. The strong
welfare state so admired by progressives here has also made Europe a very
expensive place to do business. High taxes and welfare costs, long tolerable
in an efficient economy like Germany, have a way of catching up with
companies and countries. This has been particularly notable after the
financial crisis; since 2008 the unemployment rate has shot up 5 percentage
points while dropping steadily in the Untied States.
All this suggests that Americans would do better than look to Europe for
future solutions to our own problems. However attractive the European model
may seem to our pundit class, the reality on the ground shows something
more to be avoided than embraced.
Blame the Socialists, Progressives, Greens, and the Euro
The socialists ruined France and Italy. And the Euro which was supposed to
be a uniter has been anything but.
There is more bickering than ever before on what constitutes sound fiscal
policy. Germany wants one thing, France and Italy another. Some countries
want something in between and others waver back and forth.
More importantly, what the people want, is not what the politicians want.
The result has been the rise of Marine Le Pen in France, Beppe Grillo in
Italy, and Golden Dawn in Greece. Unstable governments and alliances exist
in several countries.
Energy costs have soared in Germany thanks to Green policies. German
businesses pay twice as much for energy as US counterparts.
For example, a typical medium-sized German industrial company pays 9.14 euro
cents per kilowatt hour compared with 4.82 cents/kWh in Texas, according to
research carried out by Ecofys, a consultancy, and the Fraunhofer Institute
for Systems and Innovation Research.
The founders of the Euro project thought fiscal matters would unify over
time. Instead, politics and policies diverged.
The fact remains: No currency union in history that did not also have a
fiscal union has ever survived.
With horrendous demographics in most of Europe, impossible to untangle
socialist promises in the "Club-Med" countries and France, and no hope for a
sensible fiscal union, the situation is bleak.
My take: A Disruptive Eurozone Breakup Awaits | T*********I 发帖数: 10729 | | t*******y 发帖数: 21396 | 3 这就像美国的Deep South一样,给美国其他40来个州留着当个活教材:你要只会读经,
歧视,玩枪,保守,就子子孙孙当傻逼受穷
【在 T*********I 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好,牺牲欧洲,给其他国家留个教材
| j*****v 发帖数: 7717 | 4 左婢很歧視窮人嘛,藥不能停
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这就像美国的Deep South一样,给美国其他40来个州留着当个活教材:你要只会读经, : 歧视,玩枪,保守,就子子孙孙当傻逼受穷
| t*******y 发帖数: 21396 | 5 歧视的不是穷,而是导致穷的Deep South 世界观
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 左婢很歧視窮人嘛,藥不能停
| j*****v 发帖数: 7717 | 6 還不是一樣
荔波肉自我感覺良好,世界观最正確
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 歧视的不是穷,而是导致穷的Deep South 世界观
| s*****a 发帖数: 1269 | 7 跟黑墨人口有关。山地州也是红州,但是黑墨少,情况就很好。西北和东北的白人如果
体会了密西西比的白人处境,也会向右靠拢。左派会越来越打种族牌,吸引黑墨选民,
结果就是政治裂痕和种族分裂相重合,就像在南方州已经发生的,然后亚洲人选边站。
美国拉美化,长远来说不可避免。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这就像美国的Deep South一样,给美国其他40来个州留着当个活教材:你要只会读经, : 歧视,玩枪,保守,就子子孙孙当傻逼受穷
| l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 8 说得对,那个傻逼什么也不知道,估计南部他就没去过.
【在 s*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 跟黑墨人口有关。山地州也是红州,但是黑墨少,情况就很好。西北和东北的白人如果 : 体会了密西西比的白人处境,也会向右靠拢。左派会越来越打种族牌,吸引黑墨选民, : 结果就是政治裂痕和种族分裂相重合,就像在南方州已经发生的,然后亚洲人选边站。 : 美国拉美化,长远来说不可避免。
| t*******y 发帖数: 21396 | 9 南方主要问题是南方白人的民风傻逼,具体体现是:宗教狂热,反智,极度保守,白人
至上主义,排外,爱玩枪。奴隶主后代,能不傻逼么?全美国最穷的州,West Virgina
,白人比例94%,其他几个穷得叮当响的州,Kentucky,白人比例88%,Tennessee,白人
比例80%,都是白人州。自己穷别赖黑墨,其实南方白人自己的价值观就是黑墨价值观。
【在 s*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 跟黑墨人口有关。山地州也是红州,但是黑墨少,情况就很好。西北和东北的白人如果 : 体会了密西西比的白人处境,也会向右靠拢。左派会越来越打种族牌,吸引黑墨选民, : 结果就是政治裂痕和种族分裂相重合,就像在南方州已经发生的,然后亚洲人选边站。 : 美国拉美化,长远来说不可避免。
| j*****v 发帖数: 7717 | | | | t*******y 发帖数: 21396 | 11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
不学无术是贵帮专利啊,学好Bible不就行了么
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 左婢不學無術啊,WV什麼時候成了南方州了?
| j*****v 发帖数: 7717 | 12 你自己給的連接都不看全啊
Historic Southern United States. The states in red were in the Confederacy
and have historically been regarded as forming "the South". Those in stripes
were considered "border states", and gave varying degrees of support to the
Southern cause although they remained in the Union. (This image depicts the
original, trans-Allegheny borders of Virginia, and so does not show West
Virginia separately. See the images above for post-1863 Virginia and West
Virginia borders.) Although Oklahoma was aligned with the Confederacy, it is
not shaded because at the time the region was Indian Territory, not a state.
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States : 不学无术是贵帮专利啊,学好Bible不就行了么
| c****i 发帖数: 7933 | 13 那個人是個屁精,他菊花裏面的東西決定他的政治立場。
你看他對南部的歧視來源於南部的社會價值觀,這深刻的顯示出他的性傾向問題。
這種人離開中國最好,少禍害祖國。這些屁精應該打包全都運往歐洲,歐洲的衰落反映
了歷史正義。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 说得对,那个傻逼什么也不知道,估计南部他就没去过.
| H***l 发帖数: 1936 | 14 你再仔细看看,明明是WV和VA没有分开都是深红色,那一片都算south。
stripes
the
the
is
state.
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你自己給的連接都不看全啊 : Historic Southern United States. The states in red were in the Confederacy : and have historically been regarded as forming "the South". Those in stripes : were considered "border states", and gave varying degrees of support to the : Southern cause although they remained in the Union. (This image depicts the : original, trans-Allegheny borders of Virginia, and so does not show West : Virginia separately. See the images above for post-1863 Virginia and West : Virginia borders.) Although Oklahoma was aligned with the Confederacy, it is : not shaded because at the time the region was Indian Territory, not a state.
| t*******y 发帖数: 21396 | 15 这个阅读材料超出Bible范畴了,贵ID读不懂可以理解:
The South does not match the geographic south, but is predominantly located
in the southeastern corner; Arizona, which is geographically in the southern
part of the country, is rarely considered part of the Southern United
States, while West Virginia commonly is
stripes
the
the
is
state.
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你自己給的連接都不看全啊 : Historic Southern United States. The states in red were in the Confederacy : and have historically been regarded as forming "the South". Those in stripes : were considered "border states", and gave varying degrees of support to the : Southern cause although they remained in the Union. (This image depicts the : original, trans-Allegheny borders of Virginia, and so does not show West : Virginia separately. See the images above for post-1863 Virginia and West : Virginia borders.) Although Oklahoma was aligned with the Confederacy, it is : not shaded because at the time the region was Indian Territory, not a state.
| j*****v 发帖数: 7717 | 16
located
southern
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个阅读材料超出Bible范畴了,贵ID读不懂可以理解: : The South does not match the geographic south, but is predominantly located : in the southeastern corner; Arizona, which is geographically in the southern : part of the country, is rarely considered part of the Southern United : States, while West Virginia commonly is : : stripes : the : the : is
| y*****n 发帖数: 11251 | 17 你知道West Virginia怎么从Virginia 分离出来变成一个独立州的么?
因为南北战争时候VA加入南方,WV那些人加入了北方。
【在 H***l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你再仔细看看,明明是WV和VA没有分开都是深红色,那一片都算south。 : : stripes : the : the : is : state.
| H***l 发帖数: 1936 | 18 那也改变不了美国人通常把West Virginia看成南方州的事实。
【在 y*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你知道West Virginia怎么从Virginia 分离出来变成一个独立州的么? : 因为南北战争时候VA加入南方,WV那些人加入了北方。
| y*****n 发帖数: 11251 | 19 楚人有生而不识姜者,曰:“此从树上结成。”或曰:“从土里生成。”其人固执己见
,曰:“请与子以十人为质,以所乘驴为赌。”已而遍问十人,皆曰:“土里出也。”
其人哑然失色,曰:“驴则付汝,姜还树生。”
【在 H***l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那也改变不了美国人通常把West Virginia看成南方州的事实。
| H***l 发帖数: 1936 | 20 赶快把这些翻给美国人听听,好让他们改改观念。
【在 y*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 楚人有生而不识姜者,曰:“此从树上结成。”或曰:“从土里生成。”其人固执己见 : ,曰:“请与子以十人为质,以所乘驴为赌。”已而遍问十人,皆曰:“土里出也。” : 其人哑然失色,曰:“驴则付汝,姜还树生。”
| s*****a 发帖数: 1269 | 21
Virgina
观。
只能说明你自己已经选好边站了。你不傻逼,你的选择跟前两次大选90%的黑人选择是
一致的。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 南方主要问题是南方白人的民风傻逼,具体体现是:宗教狂热,反智,极度保守,白人 : 至上主义,排外,爱玩枪。奴隶主后代,能不傻逼么?全美国最穷的州,West Virgina : ,白人比例94%,其他几个穷得叮当响的州,Kentucky,白人比例88%,Tennessee,白人 : 比例80%,都是白人州。自己穷别赖黑墨,其实南方白人自己的价值观就是黑墨价值观。
| z*****a 发帖数: 9790 | 22 lol, "宗教狂热,反智,极度保守",扯那么多干啥,一句话就够了,看不惯爆菊呗。
Virgina
观。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 南方主要问题是南方白人的民风傻逼,具体体现是:宗教狂热,反智,极度保守,白人 : 至上主义,排外,爱玩枪。奴隶主后代,能不傻逼么?全美国最穷的州,West Virgina : ,白人比例94%,其他几个穷得叮当响的州,Kentucky,白人比例88%,Tennessee,白人 : 比例80%,都是白人州。自己穷别赖黑墨,其实南方白人自己的价值观就是黑墨价值观。
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