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http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_12523427
Debunking Canadian health care myths
POSTED: 06/07/2009 01:00:00 AM MDT
By Rhonda Hackett
As a Canadian living in the United States for the past 17 years, I am
frequently asked by Americans and Canadians alike to declare one health care
system as the better one.
Often I'll avoid answering, regardless of the questioner's nationality. To
choose one or the other system usually translates into a heated discussion
of each one's merits, pitfalls, and an intense recitation of commonly cited
statistical comparisons of the two systems.
Because if the only way we compared the two systems was with statistics,
there is a clear victor. It is becoming increasingly more difficult to
dispute the fact that Canada spends less money on health care to get better
outcomes.
Yet, the debate rages on. Indeed, it has reached a fever pitch since
President Barack Obama took office, with Americans either dreading or hoping
for the dawn of a single-payer health care system. Opponents of such a
system cite Canada as the best example of what not to do, while proponents
laud that very same Canadian system as the answer to all of America's health
care problems. Frankly, both sides often get things wrong when trotting out
Canada to further their respective arguments.
As America comes to grips with the reality that changes are desperately
needed within its health care infrastructure, it might prove useful to first
debunk some myths about the Canadian system.
Myth: Taxes in Canada are extremely high, mostly because of national health
care.
In actuality, taxes are nearly equal on both sides of the border. Overall,
Canada's taxes are slightly higher than those in the U.S. However, Canadians
are afforded many benefits for their tax dollars, even beyond health care (
e.g., tax credits, family allowance, cheaper higher education), so the end
result is a wash. At the end of the day, the average after-tax income of
Canadian workers is equal to about 82 percent of their gross pay. In the U.S
., that average is 81.9 percent.
Myth: Canada's health care system is a cumbersome bureaucracy.
The U.S. has the most bureaucratic health care system in the world. More
than 31 percent of every dollar spent on health care in the U.S. goes to
paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc. The provincial single-payer
system in Canada operates with just a 1 percent overhead. Think about it.
It is not necessary to spend a huge amount of money to decide who gets care
and who doesn't when everybody is covered.
Myth: The Canadian system is significantly more expensive than that of the U
.S.Ten percent of Canada's GDP is spent on health care for 100 percent of
the population. The U.S. spends 17 percent of its GDP but 15 percent of its
population has no coverage whatsoever and millions of others have inadequate
coverage. In essence, the U.S. system is considerably more expensive than
Canada's. Part of the reason for this is uninsured and underinsured people
in the U.S. still get sick and eventually seek care. People who cannot
afford care wait until advanced stages of an illness to see a doctor and
then do so through emergency rooms, which cost considerably more than
primary care services.
What the American taxpayer may not realize is that such care costs about $45
billion per year, and someone has to pay it. This is why insurance premiums
increase every year for insured patients while co-pays and deductibles also
rise rapidly.
Myth: Canada's government decides who gets health care and when they get it.
While HMOs and other private medical insurers in the U.S. do indeed make
such decisions, the only people in Canada to do so are physicians. In Canada
, the government has absolutely no say in who gets care or how they get it.
Medical decisions are left entirely up to doctors, as they should be.
There are no requirements for pre-authorization whatsoever. If your family
doctor says you need an MRI, you get one. In the U.S., if an insurance
administrator says you are not getting an MRI, you don't get one no matter
what your doctor thinks — unless, of course, you have the money to cover
the cost.
Myth: There are long waits for care, which compromise access to care.There
are no waits for urgent or primary care in Canada. There are reasonable
waits for most specialists' care, and much longer waits for elective surgery
. Yes, there are those instances where a patient can wait up to a month for
radiation therapy for breast cancer or prostate cancer, for example. However
, the wait has nothing to do with money per se, but everything to do with
the lack of radiation therapists. Despite such waits, however, it is
noteworthy that Canada boasts lower incident and mortality rates than the U.
S. for all cancers combined, according to the U.S. Cancer Statistics Working
Group and the Canadian Cancer Society. Moreover, fewer Canadians (11.3
percent) than Americans (14.4 percent) admit unmet health care needs.
Myth: Canadians are paying out of pocket to come to the U.S. for medical
care.Most patients who come from Canada to the U.S. for health care are
those whose costs are covered by the Canadian governments. If a Canadian
goes outside of the country to get services that are deemed medically
necessary, not experimental, and are not available at home for whatever
reason (e.g., shortage or absence of high tech medical equipment; a longer
wait for service than is medically prudent; or lack of physician expertise),
the provincial government where you live fully funds your care. Those
patients who do come to the U.S. for care and pay out of pocket are those
who perceive their care to be more urgent than it likely is.
Myth: Canada is a socialized health care system in which the government runs
hospitals and where doctors work for the government.Princeton University
health economist Uwe Reinhardt says single-payer systems are not "socialized
medicine" but "social insurance" systems because doctors work in the
private sector while their pay comes from a public source. Most physicians
in Canada are self-employed. They are not employees of the government nor
are they accountable to the government. Doctors are accountable to their
patients only. More than 90 percent of physicians in Canada are paid on a
fee-for-service basis. Claims are submitted to a single provincial health
care plan for reimbursement, whereas in the U.S., claims are submitted to a
multitude of insurance providers. Moreover, Canadian hospitals are
controlled by private boards and/or regional health authorities rather than
being part of or run by the government.
Myth: There aren't enough doctors in Canada.
From a purely statistical standpoint, there are enough physicians in Canada
to meet the health care needs of its people. But most doctors practice in
large urban areas, leaving rural areas with bona fide shortages. This
situation is no different than that being experienced in the U.S. Simply
training and employing more doctors is not likely to have any significant
impact on this specific problem. Whatever issues there are with having an
adequate number of doctors in any one geographical area, they have nothing
to do with the single-payer system.
And these are just some of the myths about the Canadian health care system.
While emulating the Canadian system will likely not fix U.S. health care, it
probably isn't the big bad "socialist" bogeyman it has been made out to be.
It is not a perfect system, but it has its merits. For people like my 55-
year-old Aunt Betty, who has been waiting for 14 months for knee-replacement
surgery due to a long history of arthritis, it is the superior system. Her
$35,000-plus surgery is finally scheduled for next month. She has been in
pain, and her quality of life has been compromised. However, there is a
light at the end of the tunnel. Aunt Betty — who lives on a fixed income
and could never afford private health insurance, much less the cost of the
surgery and requisite follow-up care — will soon sport a new, high-tech
knee. Waiting 14 months for the procedure is easy when the alternative is
living in pain for the rest of your life.
Rhonda Hackett of Castle Rock is a clinical psychologist.
T*********I
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l*****9
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加拿大医疗花费10%GDP,远远低于美国
怎样制止公共医疗fraud and abuse,当然也是个问题
不过加拿大医保系统远比美国好得多

【在 T*********I 的大作中提到】

c****i
发帖数: 7933
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你這種腦殘左逼就別轉這種帖子。加拿大左逼滿坑滿谷的,當然自己打腫臉充胖子了。
你去過加拿大嗎?就敢拿這種東西說事?
這帖子要是被轉到51.ca,家園網等不得被噴死!

care
cited

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】
: http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_12523427
: Debunking Canadian health care myths
: POSTED: 06/07/2009 01:00:00 AM MDT
: By Rhonda Hackett
: As a Canadian living in the United States for the past 17 years, I am
: frequently asked by Americans and Canadians alike to declare one health care
: system as the better one.
: Often I'll avoid answering, regardless of the questioner's nationality. To
: choose one or the other system usually translates into a heated discussion
: of each one's merits, pitfalls, and an intense recitation of commonly cited

l*****9
发帖数: 9501
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你这种脑残右逼怎么解释美国平均每人医疗开支是拥有全民医疗的其他发达国家的2倍
或更多,但是4千多万人没有医疗保险,个人破产第一原因是医疗帐单,而且美国人平
均使用医疗服务远低于其他发达国家?

【在 c****i 的大作中提到】
: 你這種腦殘左逼就別轉這種帖子。加拿大左逼滿坑滿谷的,當然自己打腫臉充胖子了。
: 你去過加拿大嗎?就敢拿這種東西說事?
: 這帖子要是被轉到51.ca,家園網等不得被噴死!
:
: care
: cited

c****i
发帖数: 7933
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你丫這種外地農業戶口左逼就別噴了!美國白人和亞裔的健康程度高於左逼國。不買保
險也成政府問題了?而且你不要迴避,加拿大這種國家你去過嗎?看醫生不用等待多久
?醫療質量服務優秀?
人要為自己的生活方式負責。

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】
: 你这种脑残右逼怎么解释美国平均每人医疗开支是拥有全民医疗的其他发达国家的2倍
: 或更多,但是4千多万人没有医疗保险,个人破产第一原因是医疗帐单,而且美国人平
: 均使用医疗服务远低于其他发达国家?

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