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发帖数: 5456 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Chicago 讨论区 】
发信人: Beida101 (北大学子), 信区: Chicago
标 题: 美国的精英学校招不到聪明的穷孩子
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 9 12:37:08 2013, 美东)
但是如果你是一个聪明的穷孩子，而且考上了 TJHSST 或者 Northside College Prep
， 那你上精英大学的几率几乎是百分之百！
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/09/168889785/elite-colleges-struggle
Elite Colleges Struggle To Recruit Smart, Low-Income Kids
by Shankar Vedantam
January 09, 2013 3:31 AM
Across the United States, college administrators are poring over student
essays, recommendation letters and SAT scores as they select a freshman
class for the fall.
If this is like most years, administrators at top schools such as Harvard
and Stanford will try hard to find talented high school students from poor
families in a push to increase the socioeconomic diversity on campus and to
counter the growing concern that highly selective colleges cater mainly to
students from privileged backgrounds.
Top schools often offer scholarships that not only include free tuition, but
also free room and board for top students from poor families — meaning it
can be less expensive for these students to attend Harvard than a state
school or a community college, says Caroline Hoxby, an economist at Stanford
who tracks these students.
Each year, however, colleges are confronted with a paradox: No matter how
many incentives they provide, enrollment of highly talented, low-income
students barely seems to budge.
After Harvard offered what was, in essence, a free college education to
students whose families earned under $40,000 a year, Hoxby says, "the number
of students whose families had income below that threshold changed by only
about 15 students, and the class at Harvard is about 1,650 freshmen."
Hoxby says some college administers had confided to her that they had
reluctantly come to the conclusion that the pool of low-income students with
top academic credentials was just limited, and there wasn't much they could
do to change that.
But in an analysis published with Christopher Avery in December, Hoxby has
shown that this conclusion isn't true. There is in fact a vast pool of
highly talented, low-income students; they just aren't ending up in top
schools.
Hoxby says in an interview that she asked herself why talented students
might escape the attention of college administrators, when the
administrators were looking so hard for these students.
"The students whom they see are the students who apply," she says, of
admissions officers. "And if a student doesn't apply to any selective
college or university, it's impossible for admissions staff to see that they
are out there."
Hoxby found that the majority of academically gifted low-income students
come from a handful of places in the country: About 70 percent of them come
from 15 large metropolitan areas. These areas often have highly regarded
public high schools, such as Stuyvesant in New York City or Thomas Jefferson
in the Washington, D.C., area.
Low-income high-achieving students at these schools have close to 100
percent odds of attending an Ivy League school or other highly selective
college, Hoxby says.
The reasons are straightforward: These schools boast top teachers and
immense resources. They have terrific guidance counselors. Highly selective
colleges send scouts to these schools to recruit top talent. And perhaps
most important, students in these schools are part of a peer group where
many others are also headed to highly selective colleges.
Hoxby and Avery found that top students who do not live in these major
metropolitan areas were significantly less likely to end up at a highly
selective school. These students were far less likely to find themselves in
a pipeline that ended at an Ivy League school.
"Imagine a student who is the only student who is a likely candidate for a
place like Harvard or Stanford or University of Chicago — and he's not just
the only student in his or her high school, but he's the only student that
that high school has graduated like that in, say, three or four years,"
Hoxby says.
Without mentors and academically talented peers, Hoxby says, many of these
students fail to apply to schools that can offer them a premium education
free of charge. And because the students are widely dispersed across the 42,
000 high schools in the country, college recruiters have a hard time finding
them.
Hoxby is working on interventions to reach these students and to give them a
clear picture of their choices. She doesn't believe all these students need
to necessarily end up at a highly selective college, but she wants them to
clearly understand that they have that choice. | b*x
发帖数: 5456 | 2 看看左棍的逻辑吧。 beida这个著名的AA拥趸。
这就是人家的论点和论据。
Every kid is special.
所以要AA。
当然， AA把亚裔优秀小孩排除在外。 所以在左棍眼里， 亚裔小孩不属于EVERY KID.
坑王和beida，你们在左思右想把自己涂黑的同时， 还要把自己的同胞赶出去。
至少这点MLK比你们强。
MLK天天fuck white prostitute的同时， 至少会为他的黑皮同胞叫两声。
你们普世的同时， 至少想一想你的同胞的利益。 你可以捐自己的bottom， 你没有权
利替我们当汉奸。 | p**j
发帖数: 7063 | 3 原因很简单，因为在现今美国这样的环境，聪明又勤奋的家庭很难是穷人家庭，笨人懒
人家庭出来的聪明而勤奋的孩子是凤毛麟角，当然不会有多少聪明的穷孩子给你招。
Prep
【在 b*x 的大作中提到】
: 看看左棍的逻辑吧。 beida这个著名的AA拥趸。
: 这就是人家的论点和论据。
: Every kid is special.
: 所以要AA。
: 当然， AA把亚裔优秀小孩排除在外。 所以在左棍眼里， 亚裔小孩不属于EVERY KID.
: 坑王和beida，你们在左思右想把自己涂黑的同时， 还要把自己的同胞赶出去。
: 至少这点MLK比你们强。
: MLK天天fuck white prostitute的同时， 至少会为他的黑皮同胞叫两声。
: 你们普世的同时， 至少想一想你的同胞的利益。 你可以捐自己的bottom， 你没有权
: 利替我们当汉奸。
| b*x
发帖数: 5456 | 4 而且， 最重要的问题的， 我支持勤奋好学的孩子。 。
既然我们支持勤奋好学的孩子， 我们支持人人平等。
为什么要牺牲Asian的勤奋好学的孩子的利益去填所谓奴隶制的债。 那圆明园的债谁来
还呢？
左棍的精神分裂有问题, 一边叫着人人平等， 一边踩着自己的同胞。
【在 p**j 的大作中提到】
: 原因很简单，因为在现今美国这样的环境，聪明又勤奋的家庭很难是穷人家庭，笨人懒
: 人家庭出来的聪明而勤奋的孩子是凤毛麟角，当然不会有多少聪明的穷孩子给你招。
:
: Prep
| l******t
发帖数: 12659 | 5 spt.
【在 b*x 的大作中提到】
: 而且， 最重要的问题的， 我支持勤奋好学的孩子。 。
: 既然我们支持勤奋好学的孩子， 我们支持人人平等。
: 为什么要牺牲Asian的勤奋好学的孩子的利益去填所谓奴隶制的债。 那圆明园的债谁来
: 还呢？
: 左棍的精神分裂有问题, 一边叫着人人平等， 一边踩着自己的同胞。
| b*******n
发帖数: 8420 | 6 支持
华裔就毁在这些浑水摸鱼卖身求荣的人身上
【在 b*x 的大作中提到】
: 而且， 最重要的问题的， 我支持勤奋好学的孩子。 。
: 既然我们支持勤奋好学的孩子， 我们支持人人平等。
: 为什么要牺牲Asian的勤奋好学的孩子的利益去填所谓奴隶制的债。 那圆明园的债谁来
: 还呢？
: 左棍的精神分裂有问题, 一边叫着人人平等， 一边踩着自己的同胞。
| d*********2
发帖数: 48111 | 7 还是有的. 聪敏勤奋又贫穷的交集, 大部分都是亚裔, 都被AA了.
【在 p**j 的大作中提到】
: 原因很简单，因为在现今美国这样的环境，聪明又勤奋的家庭很难是穷人家庭，笨人懒
: 人家庭出来的聪明而勤奋的孩子是凤毛麟角，当然不会有多少聪明的穷孩子给你招。
:
: Prep
| b*x
发帖数: 5456 | 8 chicago里的所谓天才学校， 以前是按人种分配名额， 后来被告违宪。
现在改了， 叫social economic status。 日他妈， 结果天才班一大半是黑墨。
结果这里几个著名芝加哥ID还是叫着要AA。 日这帮脑残。 黑屁眼就是香啊。
人家纽约黑人不会比这少， 人家天才班50%+都是Asain。
这几个黑ID恨不得像坑王一样， 恨不得跳到粪坑里染黑了才好。
【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】
: 还是有的. 聪敏勤奋又贫穷的交集, 大部分都是亚裔, 都被AA了.
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