y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 1 发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
标 题: GAY 讨论总结
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 19 19:38:55 2009, 美东)
鉴于对某版的尊重,以下做一总结,结束讨论.
事实和结论,感谢由WQL provided的科研调查.
(1).并不如gay所称,gay基因决定已经定论.驳斥GAY基因决定论的科学文献大有文在.
注意,这里并不是说,gay基因唯一决定论,而仅仅是讨论,gay产生的基因因素
有关所谓gay gene科学研究的重复性和方法性等等都受到挑战.
1. Title: Male homosexuality: Absence of linkage to microsatellite
markers at Xq28
Author(s): Rice, G; Anderson, C; Risch, N, et al.
Source: SCIENCE Volume: 284 Issue: 5414 Pages: 665-667 Published:
APR 23 1999
Times Cited: 58
Context | y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 2 跟狗窝教理论一样,所谓born gay,科学家的共识就是个笑话.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
: 标 题: GAY 讨论总结
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 19 19:38:55 2009, 美东)
: 鉴于对某版的尊重,以下做一总结,结束讨论.
: 事实和结论,感谢由WQL provided的科研调查.
: (1).并不如gay所称,gay基因决定已经定论.驳斥GAY基因决定论的科学文献大有文在.
: 注意,这里并不是说,gay基因唯一决定论,而仅仅是讨论,gay产生的基因因素
: 有关所谓gay gene科学研究的重复性和方法性等等都受到挑战.
: 1. Title: Male homosexuality: Absence of linkage to microsatellite
: markers at Xq28
| y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 3 发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
标 题: 有关gay的争论,整理一下
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 19 15:58:17 2008)
1. Gay does not have the right to marry.
Wrong, gay has the very right to marry, to marry an opposite sex.
Gays just dont have the right alone to define marriage. Put it simple, the
definition of marriage belongs to people, all the people, since this is the
ultimate right we have under constitution.
2. Gay behavior is dictated by DNA, nature.
Partially true, gay could be resulted from generic reaso
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 跟狗窝教理论一样,所谓born gay,科学家的共识就是个笑话.
| y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 4 发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: GAY 讨论总结
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 20 16:15:55 2009, 美东)
gay现在能做的只能是重复谎言.
the only thing those gay activists can do right now is trying to repeat lies
again and again, hopefully to hoodwink more people into their propaganda,
even those lies have been totally debunked,
I am sure we will be seeing those lies get repeated again and again from
this board or anywhere else, this post will help people to pick up certain
lies quickly and avoid dog fighting wh
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
: 标 题: 有关gay的争论,整理一下
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 19 15:58:17 2008)
: 1. Gay does not have the right to marry.
: Wrong, gay has the very right to marry, to marry an opposite sex.
: Gays just dont have the right alone to define marriage. Put it simple, the
: definition of marriage belongs to people, all the people, since this is the
: ultimate right we have under constitution.
: 2. Gay behavior is dictated by DNA, nature.
: Partially true, gay could be resulted from generic reaso
| L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 5 Most of homesexual belive there is no conclusion if sexual orientation is "
born with" or not.
You do not have to overreact. | y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 6 都是陈芝麻,烂谷子了.被驳得不要再驳了.
这帮gay还拿出来翻,真是不要脸.
lies
where.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
: 标 题: Re: GAY 讨论总结
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 20 16:15:55 2009, 美东)
: gay现在能做的只能是重复谎言.
: the only thing those gay activists can do right now is trying to repeat lies
: again and again, hopefully to hoodwink more people into their propaganda,
: even those lies have been totally debunked,
: I am sure we will be seeing those lies get repeated again and again from
: this board or anywhere else, this post will help people to pick up certain
: lies quickly and avoid dog fighting wh
| y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 7 那你们某gay友,还夸赞难得好文?
难得好文个屁,第一句就是错的.
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
: Most of homesexual belive there is no conclusion if sexual orientation is "
: born with" or not.
: You do not have to overreact.
| L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 8
Good article does not mean there is no arbitrary statement in it. The person
who like the article may agree most of the points in it but not all of them.
Even he agrees 100% with the article, it only means he believe sth (can be
true or wrong)- not all gays agree.You arbitrary statement of " all gay lies
" is not true.
Calm down.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 那你们某gay友,还夸赞难得好文?
: 难得好文个屁,第一句就是错的.
| y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 9 我很愤怒,这么多人已经被你们洗脑了,还要去洗脑我们下一代.
说你们断子决孙还真不是骂你们.
person
them.
lies
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: Good article does not mean there is no arbitrary statement in it. The person
: who like the article may agree most of the points in it but not all of them.
: Even he agrees 100% with the article, it only means he believe sth (can be
: true or wrong)- not all gays agree.You arbitrary statement of " all gay lies
: " is not true.
: Calm down.
| L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 10
now you are being rediculous.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 我很愤怒,这么多人已经被你们洗脑了,还要去洗脑我们下一代.
: 说你们断子决孙还真不是骂你们.
:
: person
: them.
: lies
| | | y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 11 不是吗?我哪里有说错一个字?
你不爱听,我可没办法.
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: now you are being rediculous.
| g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 12 American Academy of Pediatrics
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;113/6/1827
"The mechanisms for the development of a particular sexual orientation
remain unclear, but the current literature and most scholars in the field
state that one’s sexual orientation is not a choice; that is, individuals
do not choose to be homosexual or heterosexual."
Savin-Williams RC. Theoretical perspectives accounting for adolescent
homosexuality. J Adolesc Health Care.1988; 9 :95 –104
R
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
: Most of homesexual belive there is no conclusion if sexual orientation is "
: born with" or not.
: You do not have to overreact.
| y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 13 so what?
你懂什么叫共识吗?
Wolraich
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: American Academy of Pediatrics
: http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;113/6/1827
: "The mechanisms for the development of a particular sexual orientation
: remain unclear, but the current literature and most scholars in the field
: state that one’s sexual orientation is not a choice; that is, individuals
: do not choose to be homosexual or heterosexual."
: Savin-Williams RC. Theoretical perspectives accounting for adolescent
: homosexuality. J Adolesc Health Care.1988; 9 :95 –104
: R
| y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 14 发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 关于同性婚姻随便说几句
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 29 16:59:08 2010, 美东)
这个也已经讨论烂了.
先天/后天,哪个主导... 看一篇真正的生物学者对一个非生物gay怎么说的.
发信人: neverthink (nevernetbug), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 目前有可信的同性恋是遗传特征的生物试验证据吗？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jun 14 15:15:59 2009, 美东)
Well, we don't really need to keep arguing on this...
I think everyone shall keep in mind the very basic biology principle:
Phenotyple= genotype + environments...
It will hold true anywhere and everywhere
Depends on whe | L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 15
终于可以输入中文了
你说了这几个字“我早说了,gay能做的只有重复谎言” ，针对本版的另一篇由直人ID
撰写的帖子。在他的帖子中： 他说“性取向是先天的，这已经是科学界的共识了”。（他已经在后面的帖子解释了自己 先前的表述不准确）
你不同意他的看法 你认为是LIE- 那你应该说 某某ID 说谎" 。或者以你喜好推而广之
的逻辑- 说“直人”说谎
但是你说的是“gay重复谎言”， 我实在不明白你的逻辑
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 不是吗?我哪里有说错一个字?
: 你不爱听,我可没办法.
| y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 16 我不是说了嘛,
你们gay后面跟着夸赞好文不是lie是什么?
ID
【在 L*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 终于可以输入中文了
: 你说了这几个字“我早说了,gay能做的只有重复谎言” ，针对本版的另一篇由直人ID
: 撰写的帖子。在他的帖子中： 他说“性取向是先天的，这已经是科学界的共识了”。（他已经在后面的帖子解释了自己 先前的表述不准确）
: 你不同意他的看法 你认为是LIE- 那你应该说 某某ID 说谎" 。或者以你喜好推而广之
: 的逻辑- 说“直人”说谎
: 但是你说的是“gay重复谎言”， 我实在不明白你的逻辑
| b**u
发帖数: 1206 | 17 老大，出门左转去queer版踢吧，何必把大家招来呢？
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 我不是说了嘛,
: 你们gay后面跟着夸赞好文不是lie是什么?
:
: ID
| L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 18
我认为每个人都有自己的opnion,在discuss或者argue的时候 应该“就事论事”， it
is "you", not "you people".
本版有一个极其让人反感的的ID， 我个人不回他的任何贴，但是如果回帖： 我会说＂
you are being ridiculous" 不会说＂you straight people are being ridiculous"。
一棍子打死 动不动就上纲上线 根本无助于探讨交流
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 我不是说了嘛,
: 你们gay后面跟着夸赞好文不是lie是什么?
:
: ID
| a********l
发帖数: 39524 | | y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 20 heck, i really dont want to do this, it is not me who got it started.
But think it over, they want to shut your mouth, till you dont dare to say
anything against them. Which i will say, go to hell.
【在 b**u 的大作中提到】
: 老大，出门左转去queer版踢吧，何必把大家招来呢？
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