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p*****e
发帖数: 7299
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2009年10月27日消息,巴菲特,一个被中国媒体热捧的名字:曾被冠以“股神”、“价
值投资者”、“慈善家”等称号。因为金融危机的后遗症,巴菲特又被不少人贬为 “
道德破产者”。有人地表示,曾认为巴菲特是个高尚的人。现在发现他是个用纳税人的
钱为自己谋利的道德破产者。
事情缘起于巴菲特的一贯主张,即与华尔街划清界限。近日,在接受美国媒体采访时,
他又高调教训起了华尔街,认为在如今企业盈利被不计后果的高风险投机活动严重侵蚀
的时候,华尔街从业者的薪酬必须下调。
他还表示,华尔街需要改变,有功者固然应获奖励,有过者亦应受到惩罚,赏罚须分明
。华尔街不能永远受到保护,在市场环境好的时候大赚钞票,当市场环境坏的时候躲进
政府怀里,且为他们盖好避风港。
这样的表态,巴菲特已经不是第一次了。巴菲特传记作者罗杰·洛温斯坦(Roger
Lowenstein)在1995年出版的一书中就说:“华尔街的现代金融家们通过玩弄公众的钱
财来致富……巴菲特则独善其身……实际上,他重新发现了纯粹资本主义的艺术——一
种冷酷但公平的游戏。”
但这种喋喋不休以圣人自居的姿态,被人逮住了漏洞,并责难他言不由衷:自己一方面
p*******s
发帖数: 1613
2
I have never seen such a weak argument to derogate Buffet.
This is particularly laughable:
至于巴菲特把其大部分财富捐赠给慈善基金,以资助教育和医疗等事业,也没必要捧得
太高。按照社会心理学家马斯洛关于人类需求层次理论,一个社会人,有生理、安全、
社会、尊重和自我实现五类需求。巴菲特的举动,不过是在满足了前面需求之后,最终
要达到尊重和自我实现需求的满足,这不过是一个正常社会人的正常追求。
So any good deeds can be attributed to fulfilling some sort of self
satisfaction then. Try to contribute just 10% of your personal wealth to
charity and then judge the noble deeds others have done.
p*******s
发帖数: 1613
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Buffett Beats Gross in Global Poll as Investor With Most Wisdom
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXAO557NzJdg
p*****e
发帖数: 7299
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主要的问题在于其说一套做一套,同流合污地拿了纳税人的钱当做利润,同时发表出淤
泥而不染的自我表扬。
p*******s
发帖数: 1613
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You are being ridiculously stubborn.
The government HAD to bail out those shaky banks and companies, while
Buffett simply benefited from it through his investment. What is he supposed
to do, the profit comes from taxpayers, I refuse to accept it??
Aren't we all benefiting from the bailout and therefore a complete financial
meltdown? Many get to keep their jobs etc because of it. Are they all
supposed to say, I don't want this job because my job comes from the bailout
package?
Buffett is just one

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 主要的问题在于其说一套做一套,同流合污地拿了纳税人的钱当做利润,同时发表出淤
: 泥而不染的自我表扬。

p*****e
发帖数: 7299
6
你这个HAD说明了你要么就是花儿姐的既得利益者、要么就是老大哥政府的奴才,哲学
意义上的。
那么政府为什么不能没收花儿姐的钱来bail out吃救济的懒人集团和工会呢?
至于buffett,和其它花儿姐的既得利益者如GS的不同之处,就是在这次的危机中当了
婊子还想立牌坊,而且,这婊子的定义还是他自己天天说教的。

supposed
financial
bailout
many

【在 p*******s 的大作中提到】
: You are being ridiculously stubborn.
: The government HAD to bail out those shaky banks and companies, while
: Buffett simply benefited from it through his investment. What is he supposed
: to do, the profit comes from taxpayers, I refuse to accept it??
: Aren't we all benefiting from the bailout and therefore a complete financial
: meltdown? Many get to keep their jobs etc because of it. Are they all
: supposed to say, I don't want this job because my job comes from the bailout
: package?
: Buffett is just one

p*******s
发帖数: 1613
7
You are too naive, although I tend not to impose such words on people I don'
t know.
So what do you think Buffett should do then? He paid most of his "shameless
profits" back to charity, not many can do that, and he absolutely derserves
at least some respect.
I am not even in the US, so I have nothing to do with Wall Street. Those
banks really don't deserve to be saved, but if they are gone, so is the
economy, the wealth you and other US residents have and the entire stability
of the society. Ju

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 你这个HAD说明了你要么就是花儿姐的既得利益者、要么就是老大哥政府的奴才,哲学
: 意义上的。
: 那么政府为什么不能没收花儿姐的钱来bail out吃救济的懒人集团和工会呢?
: 至于buffett,和其它花儿姐的既得利益者如GS的不同之处,就是在这次的危机中当了
: 婊子还想立牌坊,而且,这婊子的定义还是他自己天天说教的。
:
: supposed
: financial
: bailout
: many

p*****e
发帖数: 7299
8
咱俩到底谁naive?
并非别人要求buffett如何,现在的事实是他自己的言行在搧自己的耳光。
就如同你这句话也是自搧耳光一样:“You are too naive, although I tend not to
impose such words on people I don't know.”
言行不一致,就是逻辑劈叉。

don'
shameless
derserves
stability
,
they

【在 p*******s 的大作中提到】
: You are too naive, although I tend not to impose such words on people I don'
: t know.
: So what do you think Buffett should do then? He paid most of his "shameless
: profits" back to charity, not many can do that, and he absolutely derserves
: at least some respect.
: I am not even in the US, so I have nothing to do with Wall Street. Those
: banks really don't deserve to be saved, but if they are gone, so is the
: economy, the wealth you and other US residents have and the entire stability
: of the society. Ju

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