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j*******u
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Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons other than Calvinism and such
members essentially place little emphasis on Calvinism itself. It is those
people who have committed themselves to Calvinism that are caught up in this
cult. These are those people who immerse themselves in five point Calvinism
and perceive it to be "the" gospel.
Firstly, like all other cults, Calvinists like to claim that all other
theological systems are "false gospels." This is especially true when it
comes to their concept of the doctrines of salvation.
Secondly, Calvinists have a belief very similar to the early Gnostics,
the first cult-like group to preach heresy in the Christian church. Gnostics
believed "the Elect" where those elite who comprehended the secret
knowledge of God. Like the Gnostics, Calvinists also believe that the Elect
are the only people who will accept and can comprehend Calvinism because
only they are capable of understanding and accepting this knowledge. They
interpret 1 Corinthians 2:14 in this way thinking that anyone who does not
ultimately accept Calvinism must be a non-elect and non-regenerate person
and such people cannot see these mystery knowledge of Calvinism.
Thirdly, Calvinism is a cult because those who adhere to its doctrines
idolize Calvinism. Now of course the Calvinist will not admit he is an
idolator. How many idolators do you know who admit they are idolators? So
why are Calvinists idolators?
If you observe a Calvinist carefully and watch him at work, you will see
that he has little regard for the true and intended meaning of the Bible
message. The only message he will allow himself to see is the message of
Calvinism. All Biblical passages are first run through the Calvinist mill.
Any passage which seems to run contrary to his doctrines are interpretively
reworked to fit his system. Like all cults, the Calvinist will not change
his beliefs under any circumstances, including the message of Scripture.
Rather than conforming his beliefs to the Bible, the Calvinist tries to
conform the Bible to his beliefs. Instead of trying to understand what the
Bible really says, he first asks himself how any given passage might impact
Calvinism. Then, instead of honestly trying to understand the intended
message of any given passage, he develops an interpretation that will suit
Calvinism. Thus all interpretations are custom fit to suit Calvinism rather
than investigated to comprehend the intended meaning.
Because a Calvinist does this he is an idolator. An idolator is one who
serves his idol. The Calvinist serves the idol of Calvinism. He serves his
belief system first and foremost and the Bible must be interpreted to
conform to his belief system. All interpretations of the Bible are subject
to the whims of his idol, his God, that is, Calvinism. He must first consult
Calvinism before he does any interpreting since any interpretation of a
passage which does not meet the approval of his god, Calvinism, will never
do.
For example, in the gospel of John, Calvinists interpret the word "world
" in John 1:29 and John 3:16 to mean "definitely the Elect" and only the
Elect. But at John 17:9, they interpret the word "world" to mean "definitely
not the Elect." Therefore, they give the exact same word, "world (Grk
kosmos), totally opposite meanings from one passage to the next. They must
do this because their idol, Calvinism, would not be pleased if they defined
the word "world" at John 1:29 and 3:16 the same way as they do at John 17:9.
There are myriads of examples in Calvinism just like this one. You will see
them in the articles on this site.
Those who are not caught up in such cults have a fluid belief system. If
a Bible passage comes up that impacts their present beliefs, most people
will change their beliefs to conform to the Bible. Not so with the Calvinist
. He approaches such things just like a Jehovah's Witness. Both the
Calvinist and the Jehovah's Witness serve their belief system's first and
foremost and no Biblical passage is going to change them. If a Bible passage
comes up that seems to threaten his belief system, his idol, he lays awake
endless nights devising an interpretation that can be made to fit Calvinism.
In such cases, he never asks himself, "What does this passage really mean
and does it prove that Calvinism or some point of Calvinism is wrong?" He
never entertains such notions because he has committed himself to his idol
rather than to God. Thus he cannot learn anything from many passages in the
Bible because he never lets it speak to him apart from prior approval of his
idol, his god - Calvinism.
The purpose of reading the Bible is to find out what it says and arrive
at the intended meaning through understanding the context, grammar and
following accepted objective interpretive principles. Most people read the
Bible to discover the treasures therein. Not the Calvinist. He uses the
Bible for nothing more than to please his idol. Although the Calvinist may
claim he interprets any verse in its own context and follows accepted
practices of interpretation, in reality his context is not the passage in
question but the system of Calvinism itself and the only accepted practice
of interpretation is to develop an interpretation of any given passage which
does not anger his god - Calvinism.
Like other cults, Calvinist do not try to coherently piece the ideas in
the Bible together to arrive at the big picture such that all pieces fit in
their proper place. Rather, they hunt down passages which seem to suit them
best and either ignore or rework all other passages which do not uplife
Calvinism. Thus they gather together a bunch of passages and build something
for themselves - a belief system of their liking. In short, they create
their own belief system rather than seeking out the belief system which the
whole Bible intends to convey. In the end, they create their own god, an
idol called Calvinism, their own creation.
Many people would say this language is too strong to describe Calvinism.
At one time I would have said so myself. But having studied and observed
Calvinists for thousands upon thousands of hours, it is my solemn conclusion
that Calvinism is a very dangerous cult and falls into the same categories
of cultism as the Watchtower and Mormons. Do not let me or this article
convince you. Do not let the fact that they accept the Trinity and the Deity
of Christ fool you either. Observe them yourself and see for yourself if
what is written here is the truth.
R*o
发帖数: 3781
2
zan

marked
who
such
those
this
Calvinism

【在 j*******u 的大作中提到】
: Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
: by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
: Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
: mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
: attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons other than Calvinism and such
: members essentially place little emphasis on Calvinism itself. It is those
: people who have committed themselves to Calvinism that are caught up in this
: cult. These are those people who immerse themselves in five point Calvinism
: and perceive it to be "the" gospel.
: Firstly, like all other cults, Calvinists like to claim that all other

R*o
发帖数: 3781
3
归正神学是极端错误的

marked
who
such
those
this
Calvinism

【在 j*******u 的大作中提到】
: Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
: by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
: Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
: mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
: attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons other than Calvinism and such
: members essentially place little emphasis on Calvinism itself. It is those
: people who have committed themselves to Calvinism that are caught up in this
: cult. These are those people who immerse themselves in five point Calvinism
: and perceive it to be "the" gospel.
: Firstly, like all other cults, Calvinists like to claim that all other

l*****a
发帖数: 38403
4
Good point, thanks for sharing

marked
who
such
those
this
Calvinism

【在 j*******u 的大作中提到】
: Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
: by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
: Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
: mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
: attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons other than Calvinism and such
: members essentially place little emphasis on Calvinism itself. It is those
: people who have committed themselves to Calvinism that are caught up in this
: cult. These are those people who immerse themselves in five point Calvinism
: and perceive it to be "the" gospel.
: Firstly, like all other cults, Calvinists like to claim that all other

j*******u
发帖数: 712
5
Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons other than Calvinism and such
members essentially place little emphasis on Calvinism itself. It is those
people who have committed themselves to Calvinism that are caught up in this
cult. These are those people who immerse themselves in five point Calvinism
and perceive it to be "the" gospel.
Firstly, like all other cults, Calvinists like to claim that all other
theological systems are "false gospels." This is especially true when it
comes to their concept of the doctrines of salvation.
Secondly, Calvinists have a belief very similar to the early Gnostics,
the first cult-like group to preach heresy in the Christian church. Gnostics
believed "the Elect" where those elite who comprehended the secret
knowledge of God. Like the Gnostics, Calvinists also believe that the Elect
are the only people who will accept and can comprehend Calvinism because
only they are capable of understanding and accepting this knowledge. They
interpret 1 Corinthians 2:14 in this way thinking that anyone who does not
ultimately accept Calvinism must be a non-elect and non-regenerate person
and such people cannot see these mystery knowledge of Calvinism.
Thirdly, Calvinism is a cult because those who adhere to its doctrines
idolize Calvinism. Now of course the Calvinist will not admit he is an
idolator. How many idolators do you know who admit they are idolators? So
why are Calvinists idolators?
If you observe a Calvinist carefully and watch him at work, you will see
that he has little regard for the true and intended meaning of the Bible
message. The only message he will allow himself to see is the message of
Calvinism. All Biblical passages are first run through the Calvinist mill.
Any passage which seems to run contrary to his doctrines are interpretively
reworked to fit his system. Like all cults, the Calvinist will not change
his beliefs under any circumstances, including the message of Scripture.
Rather than conforming his beliefs to the Bible, the Calvinist tries to
conform the Bible to his beliefs. Instead of trying to understand what the
Bible really says, he first asks himself how any given passage might impact
Calvinism. Then, instead of honestly trying to understand the intended
message of any given passage, he develops an interpretation that will suit
Calvinism. Thus all interpretations are custom fit to suit Calvinism rather
than investigated to comprehend the intended meaning.
Because a Calvinist does this he is an idolator. An idolator is one who
serves his idol. The Calvinist serves the idol of Calvinism. He serves his
belief system first and foremost and the Bible must be interpreted to
conform to his belief system. All interpretations of the Bible are subject
to the whims of his idol, his God, that is, Calvinism. He must first consult
Calvinism before he does any interpreting since any interpretation of a
passage which does not meet the approval of his god, Calvinism, will never
do.
For example, in the gospel of John, Calvinists interpret the word "world
" in John 1:29 and John 3:16 to mean "definitely the Elect" and only the
Elect. But at John 17:9, they interpret the word "world" to mean "definitely
not the Elect." Therefore, they give the exact same word, "world (Grk
kosmos), totally opposite meanings from one passage to the next. They must
do this because their idol, Calvinism, would not be pleased if they defined
the word "world" at John 1:29 and 3:16 the same way as they do at John 17:9.
There are myriads of examples in Calvinism just like this one. You will see
them in the articles on this site.
Those who are not caught up in such cults have a fluid belief system. If
a Bible passage comes up that impacts their present beliefs, most people
will change their beliefs to conform to the Bible. Not so with the Calvinist
. He approaches such things just like a Jehovah's Witness. Both the
Calvinist and the Jehovah's Witness serve their belief system's first and
foremost and no Biblical passage is going to change them. If a Bible passage
comes up that seems to threaten his belief system, his idol, he lays awake
endless nights devising an interpretation that can be made to fit Calvinism.
In such cases, he never asks himself, "What does this passage really mean
and does it prove that Calvinism or some point of Calvinism is wrong?" He
never entertains such notions because he has committed himself to his idol
rather than to God. Thus he cannot learn anything from many passages in the
Bible because he never lets it speak to him apart from prior approval of his
idol, his god - Calvinism.
The purpose of reading the Bible is to find out what it says and arrive
at the intended meaning through understanding the context, grammar and
following accepted objective interpretive principles. Most people read the
Bible to discover the treasures therein. Not the Calvinist. He uses the
Bible for nothing more than to please his idol. Although the Calvinist may
claim he interprets any verse in its own context and follows accepted
practices of interpretation, in reality his context is not the passage in
question but the system of Calvinism itself and the only accepted practice
of interpretation is to develop an interpretation of any given passage which
does not anger his god - Calvinism.
Like other cults, Calvinist do not try to coherently piece the ideas in
the Bible together to arrive at the big picture such that all pieces fit in
their proper place. Rather, they hunt down passages which seem to suit them
best and either ignore or rework all other passages which do not uplife
Calvinism. Thus they gather together a bunch of passages and build something
for themselves - a belief system of their liking. In short, they create
their own belief system rather than seeking out the belief system which the
whole Bible intends to convey. In the end, they create their own god, an
idol called Calvinism, their own creation.
Many people would say this language is too strong to describe Calvinism.
At one time I would have said so myself. But having studied and observed
Calvinists for thousands upon thousands of hours, it is my solemn conclusion
that Calvinism is a very dangerous cult and falls into the same categories
of cultism as the Watchtower and Mormons. Do not let me or this article
convince you. Do not let the fact that they accept the Trinity and the Deity
of Christ fool you either. Observe them yourself and see for yourself if
what is written here is the truth.
R*o
发帖数: 3781
6
zan

marked
who
such
those
this
Calvinism

【在 j*******u 的大作中提到】
: Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
: by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
: Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
: mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
: attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons other than Calvinism and such
: members essentially place little emphasis on Calvinism itself. It is those
: people who have committed themselves to Calvinism that are caught up in this
: cult. These are those people who immerse themselves in five point Calvinism
: and perceive it to be "the" gospel.
: Firstly, like all other cults, Calvinists like to claim that all other

R*o
发帖数: 3781
7
归正神学是极端错误的

marked
who
such
those
this
Calvinism

【在 j*******u 的大作中提到】
: Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
: by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
: Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
: mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
: attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons other than Calvinism and such
: members essentially place little emphasis on Calvinism itself. It is those
: people who have committed themselves to Calvinism that are caught up in this
: cult. These are those people who immerse themselves in five point Calvinism
: and perceive it to be "the" gospel.
: Firstly, like all other cults, Calvinists like to claim that all other

l*****a
发帖数: 38403
8
Good point, thanks for sharing

marked
who
such
those
this
Calvinism

【在 j*******u 的大作中提到】
: Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
: by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
: Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
: mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
: attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons other than Calvinism and such
: members essentially place little emphasis on Calvinism itself. It is those
: people who have committed themselves to Calvinism that are caught up in this
: cult. These are those people who immerse themselves in five point Calvinism
: and perceive it to be "the" gospel.
: Firstly, like all other cults, Calvinists like to claim that all other

R*o
发帖数: 3781
9
Mr. Lee is a good Christian
John Calvin is a murderer, satan's friend

【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: Good point, thanks for sharing
:
: marked
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: such
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: this
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我建议,sishu转载摩门教的帖子万万不能删Heresies of Calvinism!
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