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TrustInJesus版 - What Love is This?(62)普救“恩”(不是普救论!)
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by Dave Hunt
Yes, God was speaking to "Israel mine elect" in Isaiah 45:4, but most of the
m did not heed His call. Furthermore, that this offer is not just for a sele
ct elect is clear. The "everyone that thirsteth"
reminds one of Christ's cry, "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and d
rink" (John 7:37). All those who thirst are offered the same "living water"
which Christ offered to the woman at the well (John 4:10). And it is with th
is same promise to whosoever will that the Bible ends: "And whosoever will,
let him take of the water of life freely" (Revelation 22:17).
The universality of God's offer of salvation is presented repeatedly through
out the Bible; for example: "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of
the earth ... " (Isaiah 45:22). It would take considerable manipulation to m
aintain that the offer of salvation is extended only to the elect, or even t
hat only the elect could respond, and even then not until they had been sove
reignly regenerated.
Paul confirms this desire of God for all nations when he declares to the Gre
ek philosophers on Mars' Hill:
God that made the world and all things therein ... hath m nations of men for
to dwell on all the face of the earth, and 1 times before appointed, and th
e bounds of their habitation;
That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find
him, though he be not far from every one of us:
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your ow
n poets have said .... (Acts 17:24-28)
Is it really possible that Paul's "all nations of men" and "every one of us"
and "we" referred to an elect of whom the Greeks had never heard? On the co
ntrary, Paul is clearly including his listeners and antagonists on Mars' Hil
l as among those who have their physical life and being from God and who may
seek and find Him.
This was what the Greek poets to whom he refers had said (surely these philo
sophers were not referring to the elect), and Paul is affirming that general
understanding and declaring the person of the true God to them, a God who i
s "not far from every one of us," who commands all men to seek Him, and who
may be found by all.
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在复活的人当中,在承受神的恩典的人中,至少分三个国度,高荣,中荣和低荣,其荣
耀,如同太阳,月亮和星星。
15:40- [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the
glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is]
another.
- 有天上的形体,也有地上的形体。但天上形体的荣光是一样,地上形体的荣光又是一
样。
15:41- [There is] one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and
another glory of the stars: for [one] star differeth from [another] star in
glory.
- 日有日的荣光,月有月的荣光,星有星的荣光。这星和那星的荣光,也有分别。
15:42- So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption;
it is raised in incorruption:
- 死人复活也是这样。所种的是必朽坏的,复活的是不朽坏的。
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