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TrustInJesus版 - John 16 I have overcome the world
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R*o
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John 16: 33 "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace.
In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the wo
rld."
Christians often use this verse to comfort each other. It reminds me 《阿Q
正传》,精神胜利法. Another problem is the meaning of "the world". The und
erstanding of "the world" was made very complicated by Calvinists. In John
16:33, the two "world" seem to me having different meanings. What kind of "
world" did Jesus overcome? I think that is a "spiritual world", a world in
Christians' mind. Or I can say it means the heavenly world.
John 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is comin
g when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.
Did those Jew do anything wrong? Jesus himself said they will prosecute his
disciples as "offering a service to God". How can we blame those Jews? Ch
ristians always accused those Jews for not recognizing Jesus Christ. Is thi
s a reasonable charge? Why did John Calvin burn Michael Servetus?
My theology regarding four gospels is that those Jews did not have LOVE in t
heir hearts. It is just like that John Calvin did not have LOVE for Michael
Servetus. It is right for us to accuse those Jews for not knowing Jesus.
Who is Jesus? Jesus is LOVE. Jesus hid his true identity and Jesus wanted
their LOVE for a normal person.
Why do I hate Calvinists so much? They don't have LOVE in their hearts. Ca
lvinists are just those Jews.
< 馬 太 福 音 25:43 >>
我 作 客 旅 , 你 們 不 留 我 住 ; 我 赤 身 露 體 , 你 們 不 給 我 穿 ; 我
病 了 , 我 在 監 裡 , 你 們 不 來 看 顧 我 。
C****i
发帖数: 1776
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太 26:24 人子必要去世,正如经上指着他所写的,但卖人子的人有祸了!那人不生在世
上倒好。”

peace.
wo
Q
und
John
"
in
comin

【在 R*o 的大作中提到】
: John 16: 33 "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace.
: In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the wo
: rld."
: Christians often use this verse to comfort each other. It reminds me 《阿Q
: 正传》,精神胜利法. Another problem is the meaning of "the world". The und
: erstanding of "the world" was made very complicated by Calvinists. In John
: 16:33, the two "world" seem to me having different meanings. What kind of "
: world" did Jesus overcome? I think that is a "spiritual world", a world in
: Christians' mind. Or I can say it means the heavenly world.
: John 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is comin

R*o
发帖数: 3781
3
Jesus was talking about Judas
don't forget the gospels said Satan entered Judas' heart
I believe Satan entered Calvinists' hearts!

在世

【在 C****i 的大作中提到】
: 太 26:24 人子必要去世,正如经上指着他所写的,但卖人子的人有祸了!那人不生在世
: 上倒好。”
:
: peace.
: wo
: Q
: und
: John
: "
: in

C****i
发帖数: 1776
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你要改变对加尔文主义的看法

【在 R*o 的大作中提到】
: Jesus was talking about Judas
: don't forget the gospels said Satan entered Judas' heart
: I believe Satan entered Calvinists' hearts!
:
: 在世

R*o
发帖数: 3781
5
Why?
Calvinism is against the God of LOVE. There is no way to preach Chinese tra
ditional beliefs to Calvinists. Calvinism needs to be eliminated before I c
an let a Christian to accept kongzi and laozi.

【在 C****i 的大作中提到】
: 你要改变对加尔文主义的看法
C****i
发帖数: 1776
6
You should firstly know what is TRUE love and what is truth.
Then you can accept what can really change your life.

tra
c

【在 R*o 的大作中提到】
: Why?
: Calvinism is against the God of LOVE. There is no way to preach Chinese tra
: ditional beliefs to Calvinists. Calvinism needs to be eliminated before I c
: an let a Christian to accept kongzi and laozi.

R*o
发帖数: 3781
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<< John 15:13 >>
Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
舍生取义,杀生成仁
Michael Servetus was a great Christian

【在 C****i 的大作中提到】
: You should firstly know what is TRUE love and what is truth.
: Then you can accept what can really change your life.
:
: tra
: c

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