E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 1 http://www.clarkecountydemocrat.com/news/2009-10-29/Editorial/T
Texas beer joint sues church...
2009-10-29 / Editorial
Laugh A Little
In a small Texas town, ( Mt. Vernon ) Drummond’s bar began construction on
a new building to increase their business.. The local Baptist church started
a campaign to block the bar from opening with petitions and prayers. Work
progressed right up till the week before opening when lightning struck the
bar and it burned to the ground.
The church folks were rather smug in their outlook after that, until the bar
owner sued the church on the grounds that the church was ultimately
responsible for the demise of his building, either through direct or
indirect actions or means.
The church vehemently denied all responsibility or any connection to the
building's demise in its reply to the court.
As the case made its way into court, the judge looked over the paperwork. At
the hearing he commented, “I don't know how I’m going to decide this, but
as it appears from the paperwork, we have a bar owner who believes in the
power of prayer, and an entire church congregation that does not.” |
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p*****e 发帖数: 7299 | 4 这是蒙头抹油割包皮以及排卵推油的另一个兲才版本,呵呵 |
m**x 发帖数: 205 | 5 不错
on
started
bar
At
but
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.clarkecountydemocrat.com/news/2009-10-29/Editorial/T : Texas beer joint sues church... : 2009-10-29 / Editorial : Laugh A Little : In a small Texas town, ( Mt. Vernon ) Drummond’s bar began construction on : a new building to increase their business.. The local Baptist church started : a campaign to block the bar from opening with petitions and prayers. Work : progressed right up till the week before opening when lightning struck the : bar and it burned to the ground. : The church folks were rather smug in their outlook after that, until the bar
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m**x 发帖数: 205 | 7 所长是法官的话判bar owner死刑
【在 c****g 的大作中提到】 : 还你们是法官,该怎么判
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 8 我會請教會自己宣布祈禱有沒有用, 沒用的話就不必賠償。
【在 c****g 的大作中提到】 : 还你们是法官,该怎么判
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G*M 发帖数: 6042 | 9 但是要把欺骗来的款项退回去
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】 : 我會請教會自己宣布祈禱有沒有用, 沒用的話就不必賠償。
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 10 你滴水不漏啊
【在 G*M 的大作中提到】 : 但是要把欺骗来的款项退回去
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 11 法官太~~~~~~~~~可爱了
on
started
bar
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.clarkecountydemocrat.com/news/2009-10-29/Editorial/T : Texas beer joint sues church... : 2009-10-29 / Editorial : Laugh A Little : In a small Texas town, ( Mt. Vernon ) Drummond’s bar began construction on : a new building to increase their business.. The local Baptist church started : a campaign to block the bar from opening with petitions and prayers. Work : progressed right up till the week before opening when lightning struck the : bar and it burned to the ground. : The church folks were rather smug in their outlook after that, until the bar
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 12 Lol, 形象
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】 : 所长是法官的话判bar owner死刑
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p*****e 发帖数: 7299 | 13 散眼子是法官的话判bar owner推油,消费由教会报销,事后散眼子去教会祈祷。
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】 : 所长是法官的话判bar owner死刑
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s********a 发帖数: 303 | 14 http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/prayer.asp
自觉删除,别放在这儿现眼
29/Editorial/Texas_beer_joint_sues_church.html
construction on
started
Work
the
the bar
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.clarkecountydemocrat.com/news/2009-10-29/Editorial/T : Texas beer joint sues church... : 2009-10-29 / Editorial : Laugh A Little : In a small Texas town, ( Mt. Vernon ) Drummond’s bar began construction on : a new building to increase their business.. The local Baptist church started : a campaign to block the bar from opening with petitions and prayers. Work : progressed right up till the week before opening when lightning struck the : bar and it burned to the ground. : The church folks were rather smug in their outlook after that, until the bar
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 15 赞,看来祷告确实无用
【在 s********a 的大作中提到】 : http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/prayer.asp : 自觉删除,别放在这儿现眼 : : 29/Editorial/Texas_beer_joint_sues_church.html : construction on : started : Work : the : the bar
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w*****y 发帖数: 2182 | 16 你怎么读出来祷告无用的?
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : 赞,看来祷告确实无用
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 17 本來就是個寓言,大驚小怪的。
寓言都要刪除的話, 耶穌還剩幾句話?
While the tale is an exaggeration of its underlying moral, that overstatement is a way of prompting folks to measure the contents of their hearts against those of the fictional congregation to see if they themselves aren't at times engaging in a bit of religious distancing. Do they set aside their faith, and their pride in it, when faith becomes inconvenient? Or do they stand up for their beliefs and proudly proclaim them, even when doing so is to their disadvantage, financial or otherwise?
【在 s********a 的大作中提到】 : http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/prayer.asp : 自觉删除,别放在这儿现眼 : : 29/Editorial/Texas_beer_joint_sues_church.html : construction on : started : Work : the : the bar
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 18 Fiction里,另外你祷告灵验过没?
【在 w*****y 的大作中提到】 : 你怎么读出来祷告无用的?
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s********a 发帖数: 303 | 19 哪个寓言有地点具体到酒吧的名字?明摆着是要让人相信有真事。
而是寓言是要有实际生活为origin的,你那种想象出来的荒诞情况不叫寓言。
而且这种事情本来就不叫power of prayer,叫做acts of God,教会没有什么需要“抵
赖”的。
overstatement is a way of prompting folks to measure the contents of their
hearts against those of the fictional congregation to see if they
themselves aren't at times engaging in a bit of religious distancing. Do
they set aside their faith, and their pride in it, when faith becomes
inconvenient? Or do they stand up for their beliefs and proudly proclaim
them, even when doing so is to their disadvantage, financial or otherwise?
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】 : 本來就是個寓言,大驚小怪的。 : 寓言都要刪除的話, 耶穌還剩幾句話? : While the tale is an exaggeration of its underlying moral, that overstatement is a way of prompting folks to measure the contents of their hearts against those of the fictional congregation to see if they themselves aren't at times engaging in a bit of religious distancing. Do they set aside their faith, and their pride in it, when faith becomes inconvenient? Or do they stand up for their beliefs and proudly proclaim them, even when doing so is to their disadvantage, financial or otherwise?
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G*M 发帖数: 6042 | 20
你可能不懂什么叫做荒诞,别拿个词就瞎用。
就是说祷告没用了
【在 s********a 的大作中提到】 : 哪个寓言有地点具体到酒吧的名字?明摆着是要让人相信有真事。 : 而是寓言是要有实际生活为origin的,你那种想象出来的荒诞情况不叫寓言。 : 而且这种事情本来就不叫power of prayer,叫做acts of God,教会没有什么需要“抵 : 赖”的。 : : overstatement is a way of prompting folks to measure the contents of their : hearts against those of the fictional congregation to see if they : themselves aren't at times engaging in a bit of religious distancing. Do : they set aside their faith, and their pride in it, when faith becomes : inconvenient? Or do they stand up for their beliefs and proudly proclaim
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 21 对了,基们相信圣经不是寓言,是史实。。。。。。
【在 s********a 的大作中提到】 : 哪个寓言有地点具体到酒吧的名字?明摆着是要让人相信有真事。 : 而是寓言是要有实际生活为origin的,你那种想象出来的荒诞情况不叫寓言。 : 而且这种事情本来就不叫power of prayer,叫做acts of God,教会没有什么需要“抵 : 赖”的。 : : overstatement is a way of prompting folks to measure the contents of their : hearts against those of the fictional congregation to see if they : themselves aren't at times engaging in a bit of religious distancing. Do : they set aside their faith, and their pride in it, when faith becomes : inconvenient? Or do they stand up for their beliefs and proudly proclaim
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 22 本來就是 thought experiment。 這也不怎麼荒誕,
比聖經合理多了。 耶穌還講一男同天娶十個老婆呢,
不荒誕嗎?
你沒聽過寓言故事的角色有名字的? 這奇怪了。
你不妨說說你信不信祈禱有用。
【在 s********a 的大作中提到】 : 哪个寓言有地点具体到酒吧的名字?明摆着是要让人相信有真事。 : 而是寓言是要有实际生活为origin的,你那种想象出来的荒诞情况不叫寓言。 : 而且这种事情本来就不叫power of prayer,叫做acts of God,教会没有什么需要“抵 : 赖”的。 : : overstatement is a way of prompting folks to measure the contents of their : hearts against those of the fictional congregation to see if they : themselves aren't at times engaging in a bit of religious distancing. Do : they set aside their faith, and their pride in it, when faith becomes : inconvenient? Or do they stand up for their beliefs and proudly proclaim
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w*****y 发帖数: 2182 | 23 既然是Fiction,那就不能拿来作为讽刺基督徒们自己不信祷告的例子啊;
就我自己而言,从祷告中得到力量是我现在需要加强的一项
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : Fiction里,另外你祷告灵验过没?
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l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 24 上个心理辅导吧
【在 w*****y 的大作中提到】 : 既然是Fiction,那就不能拿来作为讽刺基督徒们自己不信祷告的例子啊; : 就我自己而言,从祷告中得到力量是我现在需要加强的一项
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 25 基督徒不能回答的問題 (一) 禱告
我和基督徒切磋幾年了, 發現有些問題基督徒不能回答,
現在嘗試整理一下。
第一個問題: 禱告是不是可以要求神做什麼?
通常是有基督徒上來要大家為什麼事情禱告, 比方說要神照顧死者的孤兒寡母, 或者
是見證禱告的效力。 甚至還有找不到鑰匙也禱告(以前中時記者彭蕙仙就在blog裡說過
這個), 如果有人問是不是希望神改變他原來不太好的計畫,改用基督徒的計畫, 比
方說基督徒是相信神不會照顧孤兒寡母,所以必須求神去照顧。 點出這點之後, 基督
徒通常就立刻退縮回去, 說祈禱只是和神溝通, 不是求這求那用的。
但是這也不妨礙同個基督徒下次又來發動禱告,求這求那。
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s********a 发帖数: 303 | 26 被戳穿了就不要狡辩,承认自己把fiction当成news有这么难吗?
基督徒不是不能回答,是不原意在这种版面上浪费时间一遍一遍回答你所谓“不能回答
”的问题。
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】 : 基督徒不能回答的問題 (一) 禱告 : 我和基督徒切磋幾年了, 發現有些問題基督徒不能回答, : 現在嘗試整理一下。 : 第一個問題: 禱告是不是可以要求神做什麼? : 通常是有基督徒上來要大家為什麼事情禱告, 比方說要神照顧死者的孤兒寡母, 或者 : 是見證禱告的效力。 甚至還有找不到鑰匙也禱告(以前中時記者彭蕙仙就在blog裡說過 : 這個), 如果有人問是不是希望神改變他原來不太好的計畫,改用基督徒的計畫, 比 : 方說基督徒是相信神不會照顧孤兒寡母,所以必須求神去照顧。 點出這點之後, 基督 : 徒通常就立刻退縮回去, 說祈禱只是和神溝通, 不是求這求那用的。 : 但是這也不妨礙同個基督徒下次又來發動禱告,求這求那。
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 27 回答個有用或沒用很難?
這個怎麼會看成news的? 您看網上的東西可得多小心啊!
【在 s********a 的大作中提到】 : 被戳穿了就不要狡辩,承认自己把fiction当成news有这么难吗? : 基督徒不是不能回答,是不原意在这种版面上浪费时间一遍一遍回答你所谓“不能回答 : ”的问题。
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i*****t 发帖数: 24265 | 28 既然没用为什么还要祷告?以为世界人口三分之一的基督徒都是傻子么? |
D*****r 发帖数: 6791 | 29 就是,世界人口三分之二上厕所之后不洗手,都是傻子么?
【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】 : 既然没用为什么还要祷告?以为世界人口三分之一的基督徒都是傻子么?
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i*****t 发帖数: 24265 | 30 拿出统计资料,多少人不洗手?
【在 D*****r 的大作中提到】 : 就是,世界人口三分之二上厕所之后不洗手,都是傻子么?
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D*****r 发帖数: 6791 | 31 我说反了,三分之一不洗手,
"Our first observational study in 1996 found only 68% overall washing up in
public restrooms, and that declined to an all-time low of 67% when we
repeated the study in 2000. We hope that as a result of an increased focus
on hand washing in the media over these years, as well as increased public
awareness of infectious disease risks, behavior really is changing."
【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】 : 拿出统计资料,多少人不洗手?
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s********a 发帖数: 303 | 32 回答:有用。但不信的人不能领会。
当然要小心,不然我也不会去确认真伪。让不够小心的人误认为是真事不就是是你的意
图吗? 这种伎俩中文论坛上多的是。
回答個有用或沒用很難?這個怎麼會看成news的? 您看網上的東西可得多小心啊!
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 6.81 - iPad Lite
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】 : 回答個有用或沒用很難? : 這個怎麼會看成news的? 您看網上的東西可得多小心啊!
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E*****m 发帖数: 25615 | 33
這不就回答了嗎?
那你就趁機給不信的人解釋一下,祈禱是不是要神改變計畫。
讚一個,順便問你試過去確認聖經寫的是不是真的嗎?
【在 s********a 的大作中提到】 : 回答:有用。但不信的人不能领会。 : 当然要小心,不然我也不会去确认真伪。让不够小心的人误认为是真事不就是是你的意 : 图吗? 这种伎俩中文论坛上多的是。 : : 回答個有用或沒用很難?這個怎麼會看成news的? 您看網上的東西可得多小心啊! : ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 6.81 - iPad Lite
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w****r 发帖数: 17566 | 34 lol
found only 68% overall washing up in
all-time low of 67% when we
as a result of an increased focus
years, as well as increased public
behavior really is changing."
【在 D*****r 的大作中提到】 : 我说反了,三分之一不洗手, : "Our first observational study in 1996 found only 68% overall washing up in : public restrooms, and that declined to an all-time low of 67% when we : repeated the study in 2000. We hope that as a result of an increased focus : on hand washing in the media over these years, as well as increased public : awareness of infectious disease risks, behavior really is changing."
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c****g 发帖数: 3893 | 35 兔子最近还信吗
【在 w****r 的大作中提到】 : lol : : found only 68% overall washing up in : all-time low of 67% when we : as a result of an increased focus : years, as well as increased public : behavior really is changing."
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r******9 发帖数: 106 | 36
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【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】 : : 這不就回答了嗎? : 那你就趁機給不信的人解釋一下,祈禱是不是要神改變計畫。 : 讚一個,順便問你試過去確認聖經寫的是不是真的嗎?
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