a******e
发帖数: 982 | 1 歸納一下幾年經驗。
基督徒進了這版或隔壁版， 會經過幾個階段
1. 震驚：沒在網上討論過基督教的， 不能理解為什麼有
這麼多人反對一個這麼好的信仰。
2. 憤怒：撒旦太猖狂， 憑藉我對主的信心， 主給我的勇氣，
我對聖經的了解， 我一定可以宣揚主的真道。
3. 投入：有幾天時間，我不斷發貼， 質疑反基到底懂不懂
基督教，到底來這裡破壞人家的信仰做什麼。 無奈反基
用狼群戰術， 一擁而上， 疲於奔命。
4. 挫折： 這些反基， 雖然不懂基督教的真理， 好像對聖經
比我還熟 (雖然都是斷章取義)， 我的質疑好像對他們都不
新奇， 早就有反擊等著。
5. 沮喪：很多反基問我的簡單問題我都沒辦法回答，什麼屠城殺嬰
這種事也要提， 反進化論又被問有沒有讀過任何進化論書(我只讀過
教會反進化論的冊子， 可是又不好意思說)。
6. 退隱: 反基都是可憐的， 妄想用邏輯或事實來證明我的信仰錯誤，
他們就是沒辦法理解神跟我是有私人特殊關係的。 我不辯了，
但是我會幫他們祈禱 (說說罷了) |
s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 2 看看符合不
http://mitbbs.com/clubarticle_t/BibleStudy/31179345.html
【在 a******e 的大作中提到】
: 歸納一下幾年經驗。
: 基督徒進了這版或隔壁版， 會經過幾個階段
: 1. 震驚：沒在網上討論過基督教的， 不能理解為什麼有
: 這麼多人反對一個這麼好的信仰。
: 2. 憤怒：撒旦太猖狂， 憑藉我對主的信心， 主給我的勇氣，
: 我對聖經的了解， 我一定可以宣揚主的真道。
: 3. 投入：有幾天時間，我不斷發貼， 質疑反基到底懂不懂
: 基督教，到底來這裡破壞人家的信仰做什麼。 無奈反基
: 用狼群戰術， 一擁而上， 疲於奔命。
: 4. 挫折： 這些反基， 雖然不懂基督教的真理， 好像對聖經
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w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 3 I totally disagree with this,
I come to this board if I really have time to give for the people who does
not have the gospel. For me it is always a pleasure to love the enemy and
try to let them know the wonderful truths. I am not doing it for myself
therefore I don't feel frustrated, because I have no expectations, I only
hope that God saves. I do not hate anyone here because Jesus loved me first
so I can love others, that leaves no space for hatred. I am not obsessed
with winning over anyone because my personal victory is meaningless, but God
's words being heard is my purpose.
If I am putting the discussion on this board in front of God, then what
difference do I have with the non-belivers.
If someone entered the board as you described, he is not a proper person for
proclaiming the gospel. He is obsessed with making himself feel good by
trying to be self-rightous.
【在 a******e 的大作中提到】
: 歸納一下幾年經驗。
: 基督徒進了這版或隔壁版， 會經過幾個階段
: 1. 震驚：沒在網上討論過基督教的， 不能理解為什麼有
: 這麼多人反對一個這麼好的信仰。
: 2. 憤怒：撒旦太猖狂， 憑藉我對主的信心， 主給我的勇氣，
: 我對聖經的了解， 我一定可以宣揚主的真道。
: 3. 投入：有幾天時間，我不斷發貼， 質疑反基到底懂不懂
: 基督教，到底來這裡破壞人家的信仰做什麼。 無奈反基
: 用狼群戰術， 一擁而上， 疲於奔命。
: 4. 挫折： 這些反基， 雖然不懂基督教的真理， 好像對聖經
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 4 是做牧师的材料，从你这段看到基督信仰的几个作用
1.与人为敌：动不动来句love the enemy，谁是你enemy啊？真神是什么，撒旦？仇敌？
2.天人合一：动不动就是我是为Jesus活着的，我是给Jesus办事的，其实那个Jesus就
是自我
does
and
myself
only
first
obsessed
but God
what
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: I totally disagree with this,
: I come to this board if I really have time to give for the people who does
: not have the gospel. For me it is always a pleasure to love the enemy and
: try to let them know the wonderful truths. I am not doing it for myself
: therefore I don't feel frustrated, because I have no expectations, I only
: hope that God saves. I do not hate anyone here because Jesus loved me first
: so I can love others, that leaves no space for hatred. I am not obsessed
: with winning over anyone because my personal victory is meaningless, but God
: 's words being heard is my purpose.
: If I am putting the discussion on this board in front of God, then what
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x***x
发帖数: 3401 | 5 If someone entered the board as you described, he is not a proper person for
proclaiming the gospel. He is obsessed with making himself feel good by
trying to be self-rightous.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
说得好. 你这是指着本版开版罪人的鼻子骂他啊. 一针见血.
first
God
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: I totally disagree with this,
: I come to this board if I really have time to give for the people who does
: not have the gospel. For me it is always a pleasure to love the enemy and
: try to let them know the wonderful truths. I am not doing it for myself
: therefore I don't feel frustrated, because I have no expectations, I only
: hope that God saves. I do not hate anyone here because Jesus loved me first
: so I can love others, that leaves no space for hatred. I am not obsessed
: with winning over anyone because my personal victory is meaningless, but God
: 's words being heard is my purpose.
: If I am putting the discussion on this board in front of God, then what
|
w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 6 1.
Merrian-Webster:
Enemy: persons, nations, etc., that are hostile to one another,an adversary
or opponent.
My english is not good but I think the way you responded just fits in this
definition. And I don't think the attitude you have is right, trying to
triger people into fighting with each other.
I said LOVE the enemy and you immediately thin we are enemies, my emphasis
is on love and your emphasis is on enemy, that's where we are different.
I pray that gospel is there to pacify your heart and see the love in
everything instead of enemy.
2.
I would never deny serving Jesus is also serving myself, that is true! Jesus
never said you should not help yourself, but are you trying to harm the
others when you are serving yourself? I try my best to benefit others while
serving Jesus. Hopefully I can wake up several people here indulged in
disputing with others.
敌？
【在 s***u 的大作中提到】
: 是做牧师的材料，从你这段看到基督信仰的几个作用
: 1.与人为敌：动不动来句love the enemy，谁是你enemy啊？真神是什么，撒旦？仇敌？
: 2.天人合一：动不动就是我是为Jesus活着的，我是给Jesus办事的，其实那个Jesus就
: 是自我
:
: does
: and
: myself
: only
: first
|
w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 7 I think you are mistaking my pointing out of wrong doings for something else,
something like personal attacks.
Truth is truth, it has nothing to do with a person being good or bad.
I try to proclaim the truth and correct the behaviors, it is irrelevant with
who is doing it, or his nature. I believe all people here are good people.
for
【在 x***x 的大作中提到】
: If someone entered the board as you described, he is not a proper person for
: proclaiming the gospel. He is obsessed with making himself feel good by
: trying to be self-rightous.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: 说得好. 你这是指着本版开版罪人的鼻子骂他啊. 一针见血.
:
: first
: God
|
s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 8 果然很牧师啊，love your enemy，今天你淡化enemy，说的好像是love your fellow
明天可以把enemy用文火烤，这也是一种love，对enemy的love
我没跟你吵架，别往心里去，最后一贴，今年我都不想来看版了
adversary
this
emphasis
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 1.
: Merrian-Webster:
: Enemy: persons, nations, etc., that are hostile to one another,an adversary
: or opponent.
: My english is not good but I think the way you responded just fits in this
: definition. And I don't think the attitude you have is right, trying to
: triger people into fighting with each other.
: I said LOVE the enemy and you immediately thin we are enemies, my emphasis
: is on love and your emphasis is on enemy, that's where we are different.
: I pray that gospel is there to pacify your heart and see the love in
|
a******e
发帖数: 982 | 9 那你就是非典型，也沒什麼。
要不是有另一個非典型， 這版根本不會開。
first
God
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: I totally disagree with this,
: I come to this board if I really have time to give for the people who does
: not have the gospel. For me it is always a pleasure to love the enemy and
: try to let them know the wonderful truths. I am not doing it for myself
: therefore I don't feel frustrated, because I have no expectations, I only
: hope that God saves. I do not hate anyone here because Jesus loved me first
: so I can love others, that leaves no space for hatred. I am not obsessed
: with winning over anyone because my personal victory is meaningless, but God
: 's words being heard is my purpose.
: If I am putting the discussion on this board in front of God, then what
|
G******e
发帖数: 9567 | |
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a******e
发帖数: 982 | |
a******e
发帖数: 982 | 12 wormite， 這就是我說的非基狼群， 一擁而上。 |
w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 13 I might be gone very soon, you have to grab me now :D
【在 a******e 的大作中提到】
: 雖然不是典型， 不過蟲子現在是投入期。
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w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 14 Why are they wolves?
They are lost sheep according to bible, the one we are supposed to love.
【在 a******e 的大作中提到】
: wormite， 這就是我說的非基狼群， 一擁而上。
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o**1
发帖数: 6383 | 15 其实都不对，既不是狼也不是羊，是enemy
要love enemy
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Why are they wolves?
: They are lost sheep according to bible, the one we are supposed to love.
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a******e
发帖数: 982 | 16 狼才咬雞， 羊自己是等著被剃毛屠宰的。
耶穌愛基督徒就像牧人愛他的羊一樣。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Why are they wolves?
: They are lost sheep according to bible, the one we are supposed to love.
|
a******e
发帖数: 982 | 17 別忘記為非基祈禱， 這步不能省略。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: I might be gone very soon, you have to grab me now :D
|
w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 18 If the moment you think about enemy, you think about hatred and dispute, you
can't love them for sure :D
【在 o**1 的大作中提到】
: 其实都不对，既不是狼也不是羊，是enemy
: 要love enemy
|
a******e
发帖数: 982 | 19 but you can. that's why you brought up "enemy" first.
you
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: If the moment you think about enemy, you think about hatred and dispute, you
: can't love them for sure :D
|
o**1
发帖数: 6383 | 20 我只是引用你的话而已。
受逼迫，爱敌人，是基督徒常说的话。
you
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: If the moment you think about enemy, you think about hatred and dispute, you
: can't love them for sure :D
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a******e
发帖数: 982 | |
l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 22 就是说，和你不同信仰的非基是"enemy" ，和你不同举止的基是"wrong doings"？
这位同学，我嚼的你不太谦卑，爱论断，是不是被撒旦假扮成圣灵带领了？
else,
with
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: I think you are mistaking my pointing out of wrong doings for something else,
: something like personal attacks.
: Truth is truth, it has nothing to do with a person being good or bad.
: I try to proclaim the truth and correct the behaviors, it is irrelevant with
: who is doing it, or his nature. I believe all people here are good people.
:
: for
|
w****g
发帖数: 774 | 23 很有意思。你的使命感真的很强。
【在 a******e 的大作中提到】
: 歸納一下幾年經驗。
: 基督徒進了這版或隔壁版， 會經過幾個階段
: 1. 震驚：沒在網上討論過基督教的， 不能理解為什麼有
: 這麼多人反對一個這麼好的信仰。
: 2. 憤怒：撒旦太猖狂， 憑藉我對主的信心， 主給我的勇氣，
: 我對聖經的了解， 我一定可以宣揚主的真道。
: 3. 投入：有幾天時間，我不斷發貼， 質疑反基到底懂不懂
: 基督教，到底來這裡破壞人家的信仰做什麼。 無奈反基
: 用狼群戰術， 一擁而上， 疲於奔命。
: 4. 挫折： 這些反基， 雖然不懂基督教的真理， 好像對聖經
|
l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 24 大使命？
【在 w****g 的大作中提到】
: 很有意思。你的使命感真的很强。
|
w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 25 Jesus loves ALL people the same, He is God, God's love
does not differentiate or compare.
Seriously what you are talking makes no sense.
【在 a******e 的大作中提到】
: 狼才咬雞， 羊自己是等著被剃毛屠宰的。
: 耶穌愛基督徒就像牧人愛他的羊一樣。
|
l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 26 貌似有个地方是耶稣特创的, 叫地狱
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Jesus loves ALL people the same, He is God, God's love
: does not differentiate or compare.
: Seriously what you are talking makes no sense.
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w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 27 Hell is the hardest part to understand in Christianity. Trying to understand
hell without the love is only harming yourself.
My personal experience, I do not even need to know what hell is after my
death, I am suffering from living hell if I am away from God. That for me is
personal proof of existence of hell.
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 貌似有个地方是耶稣特创的, 叫地狱
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a******e
发帖数: 982 | 28 你翻翻今天jym 發的那些主題再說。
你真的要 Serious 的話，先證明一下神存在，耶穌是神。
不過我猜你根本沒讀過聖經， 連創世紀都沒讀，否則
你不會不知道神會偏愛兄弟中的一個。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Jesus loves ALL people the same, He is God, God's love
: does not differentiate or compare.
: Seriously what you are talking makes no sense.
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c****g
发帖数: 3893 | 29 逃避问题
understand
is
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Hell is the hardest part to understand in Christianity. Trying to understand
: hell without the love is only harming yourself.
: My personal experience, I do not even need to know what hell is after my
: death, I am suffering from living hell if I am away from God. That for me is
: personal proof of existence of hell.
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