c*********e
发帖数: 1 | 1 I have been a christian all my life and vegan for about a year now !
Jesus is as gentle as a lamb
and
I believe he would be disgusted by the way we treat animals today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eAhKIwaj70 | j*******7
发帖数: 6300 | 2 I notice Jesus ate fish after he was raised from the dead.
Luke 24
41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he
asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?"
42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish,
43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.
John 21
1 Afterward Jesus appeared again to his disciples, by the Sea of Tiberias.
It happened this way:
2 Simon Peter, Thomas (called Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the
sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples were together.
3 "I'm going out to fish," Simon Peter told them, and they said, "We'll go
with you." So they went out and got into the boat, but that night they
caught nothing.
4 Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not
realize that it was Jesus.
5 He called out to them, "Friends, haven't you any fish?" "No," they
answered.
6 He said, "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find
some." When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the
large number of fish.
7 Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, "It is the Lord!" As
soon as Simon Peter heard him say, "It is the Lord," he wrapped his outer
garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water.
8 The other disciples followed in the boat, towing the net full of fish, for
they were not far from shore, about a hundred yards.
9 When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish on it,
and some bread.
10 Jesus said to them, "Bring some of the fish you have just caught."
11 Simon Peter climbed aboard and dragged the net ashore. It was full of
large fish, 153, but even with so many the net was not torn.
12 Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." None of the disciples
dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord.
13 Jesus came, took the bread and gave it to them, and did the same with the
fish.
14 This was now the third time Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was
raised from the dead.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: I have been a christian all my life and vegan for about a year now !
: Jesus is as gentle as a lamb
: and
: I believe he would be disgusted by the way we treat animals today.
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eAhKIwaj70
| E*******e
发帖数: 91 | 3 Haha...this is so hilarious. I thought of taking on him, but noticed that he
might just be a robot man.
he
the
【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: I notice Jesus ate fish after he was raised from the dead.
: Luke 24
: 41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he
: asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?"
: 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish,
: 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.
: John 21
: 1 Afterward Jesus appeared again to his disciples, by the Sea of Tiberias.
: It happened this way:
: 2 Simon Peter, Thomas (called Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the
| c*********e
发帖数: 1 | 4 We may have different opinions, but I still love you Sreenivas my brother.
Cruelty to animals is as if man did not love God ... there is something so
dreadful, so satanic, in tormenting those who have never harmed us, and who
cannot defend themselves, who are utterly in our power.
— Cardinal John Henry Newman
I have some documentary about how animals are abused today.
Will you have patience to watch it ? It is up to you but I highly recommend
it.
(3 minute length)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ctwOTHQYo
And some comments on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoW5g2VbDK0
said :
IT IS BECAUSE I AM A CHRISTIAN THAT I AM A VEGAN - LOVE IS LOVE !
How do you think ?
I love Jesus & this person clearly doesn't understand when God said we have
dominion over the animals. He told Adam to take care of the animals.
I am myself a Christian and the way animals were offered to God back in the
day was not even remotely close to how we slaughter them today. With the new
covenant to God through Jesus, we don`t need to offer animals to have a
relationship with God. I think we can all be pretty sure that Jesus, whether
you believe in him or not, wouldn`t allow violent slaughter, rape and such
matters. The combination of Vegan and Christian is quite natural to me.
i'm a christian vegan and these arguments just made me so mad. although,
Jesus tells us to love, so, lets do It. and no, God didnt create animals for
our taste, he put Adam and Eve in a garden with lots of fruits and veggies,
not in a steak house.
he
the
【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: I notice Jesus ate fish after he was raised from the dead.
: Luke 24
: 41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he
: asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?"
: 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish,
: 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.
: John 21
: 1 Afterward Jesus appeared again to his disciples, by the Sea of Tiberias.
: It happened this way:
: 2 Simon Peter, Thomas (called Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the
| E*******e
发帖数: 91 | 5 I understand where you are coming from and I do respect your choice.
However, trying to control or manipulate others in the name of God is
definitely not acceptable, especially when the practice is against bible
teaching. I think the wisdom board suits you better.
who
recommend
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: We may have different opinions, but I still love you Sreenivas my brother.
: Cruelty to animals is as if man did not love God ... there is something so
: dreadful, so satanic, in tormenting those who have never harmed us, and who
: cannot defend themselves, who are utterly in our power.
: — Cardinal John Henry Newman
: I have some documentary about how animals are abused today.
: Will you have patience to watch it ? It is up to you but I highly recommend
: it.
: (3 minute length)
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ctwOTHQYo
| m****h
发帖数: 1672 | 6 Christian Veganism 并不是不对，只是什么都有个时间。
在伊甸园，亚当夏娃不吃肉。
在新天新地，所有的基督徒也都不吃肉。
但是在中间阶段，都吃肉。
原因很简单，在伊甸园，在新天新地，都是无罪的状态。
而中间阶段，是有罪的状态。
在一个有罪的世界，要遵守一个有罪世界的特定规则。
在一个有罪的世界里面，成天只讲爱，不顾现实，
只能姑息养奸，让罪恶的力量越来越大。反而害了动物和人。
比如说，一味不准打猎，结果动物大量繁殖，吃光了草原，最后难逃被饿死。
比如说，对恶人谈爱，对恶人惩罚宽松，结果好人就被害。
不消灭恶和罪之前，不要轻言泛爱。
这是圣经原则，也是很多人看不懂为什么圣经旧约里面那么血腥的原因。 | b*****n
发帖数: 4976 | 7
不消灭恶和罪之前，不要轻言泛爱。
这是圣经原则，也是很多人看不懂为什么圣经旧约里面那么血腥的原因。
=========================
恐怕你懂得有點走火入魔了。
用甚麼方法去消滅罪和惡呢？
不是用福音， 愛， 鹽和光嗎？
你是主張用AK47, 汽車炸彈把同志酒吧炸個稀巴爛， 然後先傳福音？
該隠殺弟後， 人想追殺該隠 （除罪， 除惡罷）
可是上主卻說：
凡殺該隱的必遭報七倍。
說明， 你的血腥除罪法， 不是上主推薦的。
【在 m****h 的大作中提到】
: Christian Veganism 并不是不对，只是什么都有个时间。
: 在伊甸园，亚当夏娃不吃肉。
: 在新天新地，所有的基督徒也都不吃肉。
: 但是在中间阶段，都吃肉。
: 原因很简单，在伊甸园，在新天新地，都是无罪的状态。
: 而中间阶段，是有罪的状态。
: 在一个有罪的世界，要遵守一个有罪世界的特定规则。
: 在一个有罪的世界里面，成天只讲爱，不顾现实，
: 只能姑息养奸，让罪恶的力量越来越大。反而害了动物和人。
: 比如说，一味不准打猎，结果动物大量繁殖，吃光了草原，最后难逃被饿死。
| m****h
发帖数: 1672 | 8 我有说人要用人的办法去消灭罪和恶吗？
看我的原话：“不消灭恶和罪之前，不要轻言泛爱。”
消灭罪和恶，只有神的儿子能做到。在魔鬼没有被丢进硫磺火湖之前，罪就是消灭不了
的。
你和我都是罪人，并不比同志酒吧的人好多少。都是罪人。
要消灭罪，你和我都要被消灭。
我要说的是什么还不清楚？
就是既然当前罪还在世界上，就不要天真的轻言泛爱。
当世界上的人还在受罪的时候，去先关注动物受罪的问题，不是很奇怪吗？
当好人的权利还没有受到保障，先保障罪犯的权利，不是很奇怪吗？
用圣经的道理，常规，理性的对待问题，答案其实很清楚。
我们可以吃肉，但是别故意虐待动物。
【在 b*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: 不消灭恶和罪之前，不要轻言泛爱。
: 这是圣经原则，也是很多人看不懂为什么圣经旧约里面那么血腥的原因。
: =========================
: 恐怕你懂得有點走火入魔了。
: 用甚麼方法去消滅罪和惡呢？
: 不是用福音， 愛， 鹽和光嗎？
: 你是主張用AK47, 汽車炸彈把同志酒吧炸個稀巴爛， 然後先傳福音？
: 該隠殺弟後， 人想追殺該隠 （除罪， 除惡罷）
: 可是上主卻說：
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