j*******7
发帖数: 6300 | 1 The Universe Was Caused By Something Eternal, “Outside the Room”
All investigators of universe’s origin, regardless of their beliefs about
the existence of God, accept one important truth: the space, time and matter
of the universe were caused by something other than space, time and matter.
This inference is reasonable if you stop and think about it. To say that
something can create itself is an unreasonably magical claim. For the space,
time and matter of the universe to cause itself, it would have to exist to
cause its own existence. See the problem? The natural realm of the universe
is defined by its spatial, material and temporal attributes. If the first
cause of this natural universe must, therefore, be something other than
space, time or matter. For this reason, we must describe this cause as
something “extra”-natural, “supra”-natural, or “super”-natural. This
non-material, a-temporal, non-spatial cause is by definition, outside the “
natural” realm. In essence, the first cause of the universe is “outside
the room”.
That’s why even atheist physicists point to eternal, exterior causes (like
“quantum vacuums” and other multi-verse generating environments) to
explain the origin of our universe. The problem with these explanations,
however, is in trying to understand the precise composition of the eternal,
external environments and causes offered. Whatever they may be, they cannot
be comprised of space, time and matter, as these attributes of the natural
“room” of the universe did not come into being until the origin of the
universe itself. Even the explanations offered by those who reject the
existence of God come from “outside the room” of the natural universe and
are, by definition, eternal to avoid having to be explained by other prior
causes. Everyone believes the first cause of our universe must be an eternal
, external cause, and this cause must be non-material, a-temporal and non-
spatial.
http://coldcasechristianity.com/2015/two-things-nearly-everyone | J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 2 不是吧。
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【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: The Universe Was Caused By Something Eternal, “Outside the Room”
: All investigators of universe’s origin, regardless of their beliefs about
: the existence of God, accept one important truth: the space, time and matter
: of the universe were caused by something other than space, time and matter.
: This inference is reasonable if you stop and think about it. To say that
: something can create itself is an unreasonably magical claim. For the space,
: time and matter of the universe to cause itself, it would have to exist to
: cause its own existence. See the problem? The natural realm of the universe
: is defined by its spatial, material and temporal attributes. If the first
: cause of this natural universe must, therefore, be something other than
| t*******d
发帖数: 2570 | 3 What is the meaning of eternal when time does not exist? What is the meaning
of outside when space does not exist?
matter
matter.
space,
to
universe
【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: The Universe Was Caused By Something Eternal, “Outside the Room”
: All investigators of universe’s origin, regardless of their beliefs about
: the existence of God, accept one important truth: the space, time and matter
: of the universe were caused by something other than space, time and matter.
: This inference is reasonable if you stop and think about it. To say that
: something can create itself is an unreasonably magical claim. For the space,
: time and matter of the universe to cause itself, it would have to exist to
: cause its own existence. See the problem? The natural realm of the universe
: is defined by its spatial, material and temporal attributes. If the first
: cause of this natural universe must, therefore, be something other than
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