B*******4
发帖数: 1438 | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 a blind bet preflop, before the cards are dealt.
most of places use standard straddle, meaning only UTG (the one after BB)
can do it, it can be any amount, but most likely, for example, $5-10 in 1/2.
some places use so called "mississippi straddle", so anybody can put in such
a blind bet from anywhere.
some places even allow multiple straddles, or re-straddle, one strddles and
another one can put in a higher blind bet, and so on.
when there's a straddle, the next player acts first, say, if UTG straddles,
then UTG+1 becomes the first to act. in the end, the original straddler gets
to act last, for example, UTG can raise again.
as a result, straddles tend to create bigger pots preflop.
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| B*******4
发帖数: 1438 | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 maybe my explanation is not clear enough, actually it's very simple.
it's just a BBB (bigger big blind), the only minor diff. is most places only
allow UTG to do it, while some allow anyone (mississippi straddle).
in the end, it's just another blind bet, and he gets a chance to act last (
same as BB if without straddle).
straddle tends to create bigger pots because sometimes it has a domino
effect, for example, in a stupid 1/2 loose game:
1) UTG makes a standard $5 straddle (some drunk guys even make $10, $20, lol
, if allowed);
2) now UTG+1, a weak lady got 79o, which she always limps with $2, calls at
a higher price;
3) MP, a loose guy who has read half poker book, feels the urge to call with
his A2o because otherwise he doesn't know the "odds". "what's wrong with
that? i know A2o is a bad hand but UTG doesn't even see his cards yet before
the straddle, i might be way ahead!!!";
4) LP, a "nit", who originally would fire $8 with his 33 to "build a pot"
and set mine, now feels he doesn't want to pop to expensive $20, so he only
calls;
5) BTN is excited now because he just learned the powerful squeeze play, hey
, $23 dead weak money in the pot, why shouldn't i make it $30 to go with my
trash and take it down here like those pros on TV?
6) SB, a decent player now struggles with what to do with his AQo, to play "
safe", he finally decides to call to take a flop first;
7) BB got 92s, he sighes and folds. he hates straddles, otherwise he could
potentially get a "big blind special" free flop, hey, you know, sometimes it
comes like 229 or flush on the flop, right? lol.
8) action is back to UTG, the straddler, he doesn't like the action but he
finds black KK, however, he's short stack with only $50, so he goes all-in.
everyone in this "family pot" now finally takes it more "seriously" and
tanks like a pro...
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: 靠，十分复杂，看来要实践一下才好。。。
| s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 5 Some places also allow BTN to straddle. I have seen two variations to this
situation.
Case A, SB is the first to act, and the normal betting order follows.
Case B, UTG is the still the first to act. If no raise when it comes to BTN
, it skips the BTN and SB is the next to act, then BB and BTN. If there is
a raise before it gets to BTN, BTN acts next and the normal betting order
continues. | B*******4
发帖数: 1438 | | g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 7 Button Mississippi straddle(say 2bb), is this a +EV or -EV move in general?
my local poker room offers this, but don't know I should do it or not.
only
lol
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【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: maybe my explanation is not clear enough, actually it's very simple.
: it's just a BBB (bigger big blind), the only minor diff. is most places only
: allow UTG to do it, while some allow anyone (mississippi straddle).
: in the end, it's just another blind bet, and he gets a chance to act last (
: same as BB if without straddle).
: straddle tends to create bigger pots because sometimes it has a domino
: effect, for example, in a stupid 1/2 loose game:
: 1) UTG makes a standard $5 straddle (some drunk guys even make $10, $20, lol
: , if allowed);
: 2) now UTG+1, a weak lady got 79o, which she always limps with $2, calls at
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 i think it's better than UTG straddle:
1) because you'll always be in position postflop; position itself is worth $
xxx.
2) if SB/BB do get a strong hand, you'll see every one's action first.
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: Button Mississippi straddle(say 2bb), is this a +EV or -EV move in general?
: my local poker room offers this, but don't know I should do it or not.
:
: only
: lol
: at
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 9 So Button Mississippi straddle is better than UTG straddle.we know UTG
straddle is -EV move. how about Button Mississippi straddle? If it's +ev
move, we should always do it no matter what.
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【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i think it's better than UTG straddle:
: 1) because you'll always be in position postflop; position itself is worth $
: xxx.
: 2) if SB/BB do get a strong hand, you'll see every one's action first.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 any time when you have to put in dead money without looking at your hand it
is -ev, there is almost no exceptions. I would never straddle myself, but I
always enourage everyone at my table to do that, because when others make -
ev move, I gain. | T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 11 Everything has its cons and pros. I don't mind straddling when:
1. Everyone at the table agree to do straddle
2. Only straddle for a limited round.
Straddle makes the game much bigger and eject action into games. If a table
is a bunch of nits sitting there waiting for nuts. I don't mind to straddle
a couple rounds to loose everyone up a little bit.
On the country, if the table already has a lot crazies, straddle make the
game more dangerous. I will refuse to straddle or even avoid the table
because the too big a swing is not good for the person like me who can only
play a few hours in one session. |
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