m****9
发帖数: 492 | 1 2个月没去好好打了，这次一去发现1/2 table搞的好像比以前凶了乜，求分析求指
点：
第一手牌：
Hero ~125$, UTG QQ preflop raise to 12, Villain Cut-off 600$ call, BB call (
~36).
Flop 783 rainbow, BB check, Hero bet 20$, Villain asked for my stack then
raised to 60$, while doing this he trash talked to me that he is going to
call if I shove all-in. BB fold. Action on me.
一点context:
对方的image: 从之前的一些hand history看出来对方是a thinking regular, able to
make mixed moves, calling range比较大。
我的image：我在这首牌之前打的都比较weak tight。很少有agressive play，还在前
一局的turn上fold给一个AK all in bluff。
What should I do?
之后的第二手牌：
UTG(~200$) preflop raise to 12，Hero(~200$) midddle position call with JTo,
button(~200$) call。(~39)
Flop: Q83 rainbow, checked around.
Turn 9, UTG bet 10$, Hero called, Button called.
River J, UTG check, Hero check, Button tank and shoved with ~160$. BB tanked
for 2 mins, moved chips out, about to call, but then fold.
What should I do?
Context: Button打的一直非常凶猛，之前有过AKd 在4s8s5cJh 这样的board上shove我
all in的记录。flop c-bet >80%。
然后是第三手牌：
上把BB有点on tilt，连续preflop raise，之后就有了这首牌：
这哥们在UTG raise to 10$，I call with 9To. Button call. (~33)
Flop 679o. UTG bet 17$. I call, heads up (67)
Turn Q, UTG bet 25$, I tank raise to 60$.
UTG tank shove with 70$ on top.
What should I do? | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 2 第三手 raise turn 不如raise flop. 其实Call down 就可以。 现在你有点price
in 了 而且对手on tilt， 可能range wide. 所以Snap call.
在牌桌上不要semi bluff on tilt 的对手， 你raise turn 就该想到对手十有八九推
回来， 除非这里你先利用他的tilt 用second pair 来value. 那就snap call happily。
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【在 m****9 的大作中提到】
: 2个月没去好好打了，这次一去发现1/2 table搞的好像比以前凶了乜，求分析求指
: 点：
: 第一手牌：
: Hero ~125$, UTG QQ preflop raise to 12, Villain Cut-off 600$ call, BB call (
: ~36).
: Flop 783 rainbow, BB check, Hero bet 20$, Villain asked for my stack then
: raised to 60$, while doing this he trash talked to me that he is going to
: call if I shove all-in. BB fold. Action on me.
: 一点context:
: 对方的image: 从之前的一些hand history看出来对方是a thinking regular, able to
| l*******r
发帖数: 328 | 3 I would
1. all in
2. call.
3. fold.
what's the result?
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【在 m****9 的大作中提到】
: 2个月没去好好打了，这次一去发现1/2 table搞的好像比以前凶了乜，求分析求指
: 点：
: 第一手牌：
: Hero ~125$, UTG QQ preflop raise to 12, Villain Cut-off 600$ call, BB call (
: ~36).
: Flop 783 rainbow, BB check, Hero bet 20$, Villain asked for my stack then
: raised to 60$, while doing this he trash talked to me that he is going to
: call if I shove all-in. BB fold. Action on me.
: 一点context:
: 对方的image: 从之前的一些hand history看出来对方是a thinking regular, able to
| h**n
发帖数: 981 | 4
same here, lol
【在 l*******r 的大作中提到】
: I would
: 1. all in
: 2. call.
: 3. fold.
: what's the result?
:
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| m****9
发帖数: 492 | 5 I made similar decisions, would be great if share some thoughts:) | m****9
发帖数: 492 | 6 版大不愧是版大，我没注意他的stack，不然就直接call down了，被
反推搞的我很尴尬～
happily。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 第三手 raise turn 不如raise flop. 其实Call down 就可以。 现在你有点price
: in 了 而且对手on tilt， 可能range wide. 所以Snap call.
: 在牌桌上不要semi bluff on tilt 的对手， 你raise turn 就该想到对手十有八九推
: 回来， 除非这里你先利用他的tilt 用second pair 来value. 那就snap call happily。
:
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| l*******r
发帖数: 328 | 7 1. I think the only hand that beats you is 78. I don't think he would raise
with a set. he might also raise a8, 9t, or tj, etc. you don't have a deep
stack and there is no need to slow play.
2. I think he probably bluffs with kj or j9 or air. should be an easy call.
3. not sure why you min raise on the turn. you can probably all in bluff. I
would raise flop or fold the turn.
can you provide the results? see how close my guess is.
【在 m****9 的大作中提到】
: I made similar decisions, would be great if share some thoughts:)
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 hand1:
with that shallow stack, it's a shove. in his eyes, you could play (c-bet
part) missed AK/AQ alike almost the same way.
hand2:
i won't just call that turn. you start with a weak hand and now you have to
build a pot before the last card comes. by slow playing here, you have no
idea how strong they are.
if a blank shows up on the river, you expect all of a sudden they'll pay you
off?
hand3:
you overplay your hand, and turn it into a weak semi-bluff. he's short and
it's a mistake.
if you want to be aggressive, flop is much better, right?
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【在 m****9 的大作中提到】
: 2个月没去好好打了，这次一去发现1/2 table搞的好像比以前凶了乜，求分析求指
: 点：
: 第一手牌：
: Hero ~125$, UTG QQ preflop raise to 12, Villain Cut-off 600$ call, BB call (
: ~36).
: Flop 783 rainbow, BB check, Hero bet 20$, Villain asked for my stack then
: raised to 60$, while doing this he trash talked to me that he is going to
: call if I shove all-in. BB fold. Action on me.
: 一点context:
: 对方的image: 从之前的一些hand history看出来对方是a thinking regular, able to
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 其实我觉得这几个牌都不算tough decision..
hand 1 short stack. hand 2 碰到donkey 发彪（turn 一定要raise 的 without a
question） hand 3 自找的。。 raise fold turn is terrible. 既然raise 了就
let the chips fly. stack 其实也挺浅的，小概率，可能你还领先。 | m****9
发帖数: 492 | 10 Thanks for the comments!
Hand 1: I shoved. He called and showed 9T. Turn 9, River 6. Lost to a
straight.
Hand 2: I called and he showed air A4s, BB told me that he folded 9To. lol.
Hand 3: I folded the turn and he showed complete air.
Hand 2: yeah I normall I would bet about 1/3 of the pot to make the odds
look right for them. At that moment I choose to slow play because I had some
history with button. I knew he like to play fancy at late position, so I
want to wait for one more street, show extremely weakness, let him fire,
then reraise to punish him. I did not expect he push all-in though. Anyway
he was extremely ashamed at the show down and told me that he completely
ignored me...
Hand 3: Yep, that was not a good move. It was a really weak semi-bluff. BB
told me that he was going to fold, but all of a sudden he noticed that I was
nervous, so he pushed back. looks like I also need to work on improving my
live image lol. | | | c******q
发帖数: 456 | 11 nobody thinks about to fold hand 2? | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 donkeys shove.. no.. you shove.. maybe. I shove.. must..
because I am a nit~~~~
long time no see man... you need to come more often to water~~~
【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: nobody thinks about to fold hand 2?
| c******q
发帖数: 456 | 13 I will never shove here without the nuts, one of my many leaks. | s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 14 you are a nit? didn't find it last time. haha, i would shove too.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: donkeys shove.. no.. you shove.. maybe. I shove.. must..
: because I am a nit~~~~
: long time no see man... you need to come more often to water~~~
| c******q
发帖数: 456 | 15 btw, I played a few hours last night in CAESARS AC. They are running 1/2
Super (buyin: 100/500) now. With such a deep buyin and relative worse
players, I believe the game must be more profitable than most of short buyin
2/5 games. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 i noticed that too and guessed "super" means deeper stacks.
last night i noticed (on bravo) in WV, all of a sudden there were a ton of
games, you know, it was only a slow sunday night (20 tables at most).
they were running 31 tables already, but there were 99 players on 1/2, 50 on
2/5 waiting lists, they even had new 4/8L and 5/10 H/L games running too,
and guess what? almost a few full tables of ppl were waiting.
man, wish i could have taken today off, lol.
buyin
【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: btw, I played a few hours last night in CAESARS AC. They are running 1/2
: Super (buyin: 100/500) now. With such a deep buyin and relative worse
: players, I believe the game must be more profitable than most of short buyin
: 2/5 games.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 17 they don't increase the minimum buy in enough to make this too special of a
deal. Is there a lot of people buying in full 500$? if not I would rather
have min 200-300$ buy ins. That's something I like about parx than AC.
More people buy in full 300 or at least 200 at 1/2 than AC.
buyin
【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: btw, I played a few hours last night in CAESARS AC. They are running 1/2
: Super (buyin: 100/500) now. With such a deep buyin and relative worse
: players, I believe the game must be more profitable than most of short buyin
: 2/5 games.
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