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f*****g
发帖数: 15860
1
1/2NL, loose table.
i just won last hand by betting $13 pre from LP, c-bet took it down.
this hand, black KK, still LP, $400 stack, bet $15 vs. 2 limpers.
SB, a decent player calls, he plays broadway cards most of time, both
limpers fold.
flop: 775, all black.
he checks to me, i bet $15, he quickly raises to $85, he has me covered by a
little.
action?
r****r
发帖数: 1394
2
i would make it $160 and call it off on the flop or shove the turn.
btw, why such a size preflop?

a

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1/2NL, loose table.
: i just won last hand by betting $13 pre from LP, c-bet took it down.
: this hand, black KK, still LP, $400 stack, bet $15 vs. 2 limpers.
: SB, a decent player calls, he plays broadway cards most of time, both
: limpers fold.
: flop: 775, all black.
: he checks to me, i bet $15, he quickly raises to $85, he has me covered by a
: little.
: action?

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
3
at that table, anything < this $15 is a welcome sign for multiple callers.
this is the first time that night i got a decent PP, hehe, most of time, i
feel very comfortable to join the limpfest knowing they would not fold any
trash if they hit the board somehow.
i win a pot of $200 in 4-way with T8s, only a pair of 8.
nowadays i only buy in for $100, get to know the table, then a few easy
shove hands, and build my stack from there.

【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: i would make it $160 and call it off on the flop or shove the turn.
: btw, why such a size preflop?
:
: a

W********m
发帖数: 7793
4
buy in only 100$? 舍不得那几只龙虾? 多放几只在桌上才能钓大鱼啊.
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
5
it's a test, so far everything works fine, haha.
i used to have a tendency of lacking patience at a new table, then digging a
hole and having to work hard to come back.
$100 is more than enough in a lot of spots vs. them, then either double up
to $300 (including dead money), or re-buy, shallow hole, no big deal at all.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: buy in only 100$? 舍不得那几只龙虾? 多放几只在桌上才能钓大鱼啊.
h*****s
发帖数: 3289
6
Call, and re-evaluate on the turn (hoping calling here would slow him down)?
Really suspicious, check-raise is way too weaker than check-call.....
Would be a good fold in the short term, but in the long run.......
Anyway, just my two cents....
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
7
i'm a little curious about his raising size, $85 on such a flop.
he should know:
1) i could c-bet a lot of missed hands here and would then fold to this
raise;
2) i rarely play a real disaster hand like this here, for example, 7x or
even 55;
3) even if i do call with 99/TT alike, there won't be much value left on
later streets;
4) my big combo draws? not likely.

)?

【在 h*****s 的大作中提到】
: Call, and re-evaluate on the turn (hoping calling here would slow him down)?
: Really suspicious, check-raise is way too weaker than check-call.....
: Would be a good fold in the short term, but in the long run.......
: Anyway, just my two cents....

T*********k
发帖数: 1621
8
Problem was your c-bet $15 into a $45 dollar pot didn't give you much
information, as a matter of fact, You might be better of checking on the
flop in later position than tossing that $15 as a half hearted c-bet, if you
decide to keep the pot small.
I will at least bet 2/3 of the pot, more than $30 at least if I decide to
charge the draw and make hands like 88, 99, TTs call. And if ppl decide to
play back to me, and make a big reraise, I will then evaulate the situation
and quality of players.
$15 c-bet is just too weak and didn't serve any purposes. For drawing hand,
most of ppl will glad to play along; and for those player who play
aggressive, your bet is an invitation for raising.
A tight and decent player's raising range could be: 99 -- QQ, Any str and
flush draw combo (although you said he usually play broadway cards), A high
or K high flush draw, 7x which is not a boat (he could suspect you are
drawing and he want to check raise on the flop instead of giving you a free
card. Don't think tight player will play SC in early position? Think again.
I saw mulitple time tight players play connectors, in any position,
especially when they are winning; and don't totally rule out he is playing
AAs in early position and tried to trap.
As you can see, of his range, only 99-QQs and K high flush draw got crushed
by your hand, other hands, they either have you crushed or have very decent
equlities.
You don't need escalate the action, since you only have one pair. I will
lean toward call and evaulate the turn. But in the long run, fold is not too
bad either. You only invested $30, you have put another 60 just to see one
card, which many of them you will hate to see anyway.
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
9
small correction, it's a $36 pot (BB + 2 limpers), only he calls.
i bet $15 to represent a missed c-bet possibility too.
overall, i agree with all your analysis.

you
situation
,

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Problem was your c-bet $15 into a $45 dollar pot didn't give you much
: information, as a matter of fact, You might be better of checking on the
: flop in later position than tossing that $15 as a half hearted c-bet, if you
: decide to keep the pot small.
: I will at least bet 2/3 of the pot, more than $30 at least if I decide to
: charge the draw and make hands like 88, 99, TTs call. And if ppl decide to
: play back to me, and make a big reraise, I will then evaulate the situation
: and quality of players.
: $15 c-bet is just too weak and didn't serve any purposes. For drawing hand,
: most of ppl will glad to play along; and for those player who play

H****r
发帖数: 2801
10
Nice post!
I might go with: Fold 3/4, call 1/4, all-in 1percent.

you
situation
,

【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Problem was your c-bet $15 into a $45 dollar pot didn't give you much
: information, as a matter of fact, You might be better of checking on the
: flop in later position than tossing that $15 as a half hearted c-bet, if you
: decide to keep the pot small.
: I will at least bet 2/3 of the pot, more than $30 at least if I decide to
: charge the draw and make hands like 88, 99, TTs call. And if ppl decide to
: play back to me, and make a big reraise, I will then evaulate the situation
: and quality of players.
: $15 c-bet is just too weak and didn't serve any purposes. For drawing hand,
: most of ppl will glad to play along; and for those player who play

D*A
发帖数: 1169
11
Fold is the safe play( i assume that is what happened)
but it is hard for me to put him on 7
since 99% ppl will call with 7 heads up here.
AA also less possbile given pre-action.
but it is difficult situation, if you raise back then you basically commit,
which obvious too early.
if you call then you dont know what to do at turn.
so all depends on player, if he is solid, let him have it. if he is somehow
loose, then call and see.

a

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1/2NL, loose table.
: i just won last hand by betting $13 pre from LP, c-bet took it down.
: this hand, black KK, still LP, $400 stack, bet $15 vs. 2 limpers.
: SB, a decent player calls, he plays broadway cards most of time, both
: limpers fold.
: flop: 775, all black.
: he checks to me, i bet $15, he quickly raises to $85, he has me covered by a
: little.
: action?

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