p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 1 Mine is 78% now.
I still play 12.5vpip in FR but has 5.8 3 betting now. . I ajust my
online cash game by 3 betting a lot more in position and works pretty well.
My 3 betting range is from 67s-AA. I find out that 3 betting with sc in
position is very profitable play. | c****1
发帖数: 457 | 2 别人不4-bet么。 你3bet后出的cbet比例多大
well.
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: Mine is 78% now.
: I still play 12.5vpip in FR but has 5.8 3 betting now. . I ajust my
: online cash game by 3 betting a lot more in position and works pretty well.
: My 3 betting range is from 67s-AA. I find out that 3 betting with sc in
: position is very profitable play.
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 3 for 100BB cap game, 4 bet needs to commit a big percentage of your chips.
You do not know if I have 67s or AA. This makes 3 betting so powerful. I can
easily fold to 4 bet most of time. But I got 4 bet rare enough to make 3 bet
profitable. You can pick up a lot of dead money many times.
I cbet 64.5% after 3 betting. But checking behind does not mean I do not
have anything or give up the pot.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 别人不4-bet么。 你3bet后出的cbet比例多大
:
: well.
| q**q
发帖数: 51 | 4
Do you 3 bet AQs, JJ, TT in position? how often would you fold those hands
to 4 bet?0BB cap game, 4 bet needs to commit a big percentage of your chips.
can
bet
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: for 100BB cap game, 4 bet needs to commit a big percentage of your chips.
: You do not know if I have 67s or AA. This makes 3 betting so powerful. I can
: easily fold to 4 bet most of time. But I got 4 bet rare enough to make 3 bet
: profitable. You can pick up a lot of dead money many times.
: I cbet 64.5% after 3 betting. But checking behind does not mean I do not
: have anything or give up the pot.
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 5 you are increasing ur 3bet % in your villain's database, i think, lol
soon u will find more and more 4bet is coming | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 从回帖可以看出Jim 的悲惨经历哈. 同情...
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: you are increasing ur 3bet % in your villain's database, i think, lol
: soon u will find more and more 4bet is coming
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 这个问题问得好啊。
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搬个板凳坐等版3 解答。
【在 q**q 的大作中提到】
:
: Do you 3 bet AQs, JJ, TT in position? how often would you fold those hands
: to 4 bet?0BB cap game, 4 bet needs to commit a big percentage of your chips.
: can
: bet
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 8 I do 3 bet with these hands in position sometime, but fold to 4 bet most
of time with these hands. It is still very profitable since most villian's 4
bet range is only KK, AA, sometime AK, only a very small portion of their
open range. It really depends who raise and raise from what postion. If
the effective stack is deep enough, I will call TT, JJ with small 4 betting
in position.
I usually call with AQs,even Aks in position , especially in multiway pot
since it has more value postflop and 3 bet with Ako/AQo to MP/LP raiser.
chips.
【在 q**q 的大作中提到】
:
: Do you 3 bet AQs, JJ, TT in position? how often would you fold those hands
: to 4 bet?0BB cap game, 4 bet needs to commit a big percentage of your chips.
: can
: bet
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 9 then you will see more 5 betting coming...:)
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: you are increasing ur 3bet % in your villain's database, i think, lol
: soon u will find more and more 4bet is coming
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 10 then finally both of u will converege to an optimal play
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: then you will see more 5 betting coming...:)
:
| p****t
发帖数: 292 | 11 Then you are turning your JJ/TT into bluff. Even worse, you force your
opponent to play optimally against you, that is, he'll 4bet hands that beat
you and fold hands that you beat. Occasionally, he'll decide to bluff 4bet
and succede.
I prefer flat calling with JJ/TT now and I pick other hands to bluff 3bet.
For example, I like to 3bet AQo/KQo when the raiser has a tight range and I
believe that I cannot profitably flat call with those hands. However,
because of the blockers I hold, I expect my opponent to fold enough to make
a 3bet +ev. As his range looses up, I move those hands into my flat calling
range (and put JJ/TT into my value 3bet range and plan to 5bet all-in).
4
betting
pot
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: then you will see more 5 betting coming...:)
:
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beat
I
make
calling
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: Then you are turning your JJ/TT into bluff. Even worse, you force your
: opponent to play optimally against you, that is, he'll 4bet hands that beat
: you and fold hands that you beat. Occasionally, he'll decide to bluff 4bet
: and succede.
: I prefer flat calling with JJ/TT now and I pick other hands to bluff 3bet.
: For example, I like to 3bet AQo/KQo when the raiser has a tight range and I
: believe that I cannot profitably flat call with those hands. However,
: because of the blockers I hold, I expect my opponent to fold enough to make
: a 3bet +ev. As his range looses up, I move those hands into my flat calling
: range (and put JJ/TT into my value 3bet range and plan to 5bet all-in).
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 13 there is no way that I turn 3 beting with JJ/TT into bluff. It is always
situational. First, I do not 3 bet often with TT/JJ. I only 3 bet these
hands once a while to ppl who has been keeping openning with hands like 67o,
and flat call these hand to ppl who has a tighter open range. TT/JJ is
doing horrible against most ppl's 4 bet range though. Also I am talking
about online cash game, where lots of ppl' s open range is much wider than
live game.
poker is a people game first of all. it is quite meaningless to discuss
the hand itself without people factor.
beat
I
make
calling
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: Then you are turning your JJ/TT into bluff. Even worse, you force your
: opponent to play optimally against you, that is, he'll 4bet hands that beat
: you and fold hands that you beat. Occasionally, he'll decide to bluff 4bet
: and succede.
: I prefer flat calling with JJ/TT now and I pick other hands to bluff 3bet.
: For example, I like to 3bet AQo/KQo when the raiser has a tight range and I
: believe that I cannot profitably flat call with those hands. However,
: because of the blockers I hold, I expect my opponent to fold enough to make
: a 3bet +ev. As his range looses up, I move those hands into my flat calling
: range (and put JJ/TT into my value 3bet range and plan to 5bet all-in).
| q**q
发帖数: 51 | 14 that make sense, when calling 4 bet with TT, JJ, are you set mining?
4 bet is normally 20-30bb, which means you will need to be at least 200bb de
ep to make this call correct.
How far would you continue if you flop over pair and facing aggresion?
BTW, if you are only "3 bet these hands in position sometime", you do have m
ore bluff 3 bet with hand not as you described to get you to 5.x%. what are
those hands? KJo, QJo?
4
betting
pot
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: there is no way that I turn 3 beting with JJ/TT into bluff. It is always
: situational. First, I do not 3 bet often with TT/JJ. I only 3 bet these
: hands once a while to ppl who has been keeping openning with hands like 67o,
: and flat call these hand to ppl who has a tighter open range. TT/JJ is
: doing horrible against most ppl's 4 bet range though. Also I am talking
: about online cash game, where lots of ppl' s open range is much wider than
: live game.
: poker is a people game first of all. it is quite meaningless to discuss
: the hand itself without people factor.
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