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TexasHoldem版 - 20/40 40/80 limit 经验谈
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b*******s
发帖数: 1175
1
某次玩了20/40limit后就不太想玩2/3/5 no limit game了. 最近一直玩20/40和40/80
,有点经验和同好分享。
1。NO LAG play. NIT wins at this game. Play a bit LAG when on streak. 20/40
40/80桌上一般一半是靠此为生的,他们打得特别紧,而且不太draw. if you can not
displine yourself to start with good cards, you are doomed to lose...
patience is the virtue of the this game....
2. Buy-in for 2 racks and identify the fish quickly. 每桌上总有几个fish, 要
么是特有钱的主,要么是刚开始玩这种games. Try to stay away from the pros and
raise those fishes everytime you have a decent made hand....
本人也还在学习过程中,本贴就作抛砖引玉,高手们多指点。。。。。。
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
2
而且不太draw
------------
why? it's always correct by odds to draw in limit game bah?

80
40
not
and

【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】
: 某次玩了20/40limit后就不太想玩2/3/5 no limit game了. 最近一直玩20/40和40/80
: ,有点经验和同好分享。
: 1。NO LAG play. NIT wins at this game. Play a bit LAG when on streak. 20/40
: 40/80桌上一般一半是靠此为生的,他们打得特别紧,而且不太draw. if you can not
: displine yourself to start with good cards, you are doomed to lose...
: patience is the virtue of the this game....
: 2. Buy-in for 2 racks and identify the fish quickly. 每桌上总有几个fish, 要
: 么是特有钱的主,要么是刚开始玩这种games. Try to stay away from the pros and
: raise those fishes everytime you have a decent made hand....
: 本人也还在学习过程中,本贴就作抛砖引玉,高手们多指点。。。。。。

b*******s
发帖数: 1175
3
when they draw, their odds are really good. i talked to a few of the pros
and that is how they survived. and mathematically if you can displine
yourself to play only these made hands, you are well better off than drawing
......
g******s
发帖数: 211
4
打几个小时的NL,可能是一把决定输赢。如果改打LIMIT,这个数肯定要乘n。 所以,
如果Profit & Loss 大差不差,LIMIT肯定更欢乐
D*A
发帖数: 1169
5
其实Limit 在很多方面是值得大书特书的。只是目前Limit已经沦为old school们的游戏
同样的盲注,Limit的swing不比NL小...
平均下来每10把赢一把,然后还要比一般人紧,选择起首牌更严格,可能差不多
一个小时才能赢上一把,还未必是大pot。想Bluff也很难奏效
50BB坐下来,很有可能一把没赢都全出去了

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: 打几个小时的NL,可能是一把决定输赢。如果改打LIMIT,这个数肯定要乘n。 所以,
: 如果Profit & Loss 大差不差,LIMIT肯定更欢乐

D*A
发帖数: 1169
6
it might work, think about it, if you play 20-40, all you need to do is win
a
small bet per hours, that beats most of live 1/2 reg
假设现场20/40,每小时20把,我们只玩一把,大概5%的起首牌。66组合,
大概是88+, AKs AKo and AQs, 并且Raise Preflop
假设我们玩这种牌每三次能赢一次,每次平均能赢到18个small bet(20$),(6人入局
,4人call flop,一人call turn),总共三个小时。除去三次盲注,两次玩牌从flop到
turn总共5个small bet,一共14.5个small bet,加上赢的这把的抽水,小费共计0.5个
small bet,还剩下3个small bet是利润
这样看来,我们每小时玩一把牌,每三个小时收一个pot,仍然保持了20$/hour的赢率
,而这在1/2 NL都是很哪达到的。
如果玩40/80,理论赢率是40$/h.

when they draw, their odds are really good. i talked to a few of the pros
and that is how they survived. and mathematically if you can displine
yourself to play only these made hands, you are well better off than drawing
......

【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】
: when they draw, their odds are really good. i talked to a few of the pros
: and that is how they survived. and mathematically if you can displine
: yourself to play only these made hands, you are well better off than drawing
: ......

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
7
limit game肯定action要更好,而且大家速度也很快,很少有那种要想好几分钟的
tough decision,所以玩起来应该更有意思。我没玩过这种high limit的Limit game,
但以前看过玩这种game的人来玩NL,他们都是很受不了这种nl的slow,因为经常有人要
想半天才做决定,有的人是每一盘每一个move都得想半天,确实烦人。

80
40
not
and

【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】
: 某次玩了20/40limit后就不太想玩2/3/5 no limit game了. 最近一直玩20/40和40/80
: ,有点经验和同好分享。
: 1。NO LAG play. NIT wins at this game. Play a bit LAG when on streak. 20/40
: 40/80桌上一般一半是靠此为生的,他们打得特别紧,而且不太draw. if you can not
: displine yourself to start with good cards, you are doomed to lose...
: patience is the virtue of the this game....
: 2. Buy-in for 2 racks and identify the fish quickly. 每桌上总有几个fish, 要
: 么是特有钱的主,要么是刚开始玩这种games. Try to stay away from the pros and
: raise those fishes everytime you have a decent made hand....
: 本人也还在学习过程中,本贴就作抛砖引玉,高手们多指点。。。。。。

b*******s
发帖数: 1175
8
that makes perfect sense..... 看来我是一辈子也做不了nit了,看了log,我在40/
80的hourly rate每次都是+/-500以上啊。。。。。。。

win

【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: it might work, think about it, if you play 20-40, all you need to do is win
: a
: small bet per hours, that beats most of live 1/2 reg
: 假设现场20/40,每小时20把,我们只玩一把,大概5%的起首牌。66组合,
: 大概是88+, AKs AKo and AQs, 并且Raise Preflop
: 假设我们玩这种牌每三次能赢一次,每次平均能赢到18个small bet(20$),(6人入局
: ,4人call flop,一人call turn),总共三个小时。除去三次盲注,两次玩牌从flop到
: turn总共5个small bet,一共14.5个small bet,加上赢的这把的抽水,小费共计0.5个
: small bet,还剩下3个small bet是利润
: 这样看来,我们每小时玩一把牌,每三个小时收一个pot,仍然保持了20$/hour的赢率

H****r
发帖数: 2801
9
Jennifer Harman wrote a chapter on limit games:

80
40
not
and

【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】
: 某次玩了20/40limit后就不太想玩2/3/5 no limit game了. 最近一直玩20/40和40/80
: ,有点经验和同好分享。
: 1。NO LAG play. NIT wins at this game. Play a bit LAG when on streak. 20/40
: 40/80桌上一般一半是靠此为生的,他们打得特别紧,而且不太draw. if you can not
: displine yourself to start with good cards, you are doomed to lose...
: patience is the virtue of the this game....
: 2. Buy-in for 2 racks and identify the fish quickly. 每桌上总有几个fish, 要
: 么是特有钱的主,要么是刚开始玩这种games. Try to stay away from the pros and
: raise those fishes everytime you have a decent made hand....
: 本人也还在学习过程中,本贴就作抛砖引玉,高手们多指点。。。。。。

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
10
OMG, she looks like a freaking ghost!!!

【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: Jennifer Harman wrote a chapter on limit games:
:
: 80
: 40
: not
: and

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T********n
发帖数: 528
11
limit的variance比NL高的多了。limit不能有效率的protect pot。
“not much draw"是nonsense。“don't chase much without proper odds"才是正解
。不会是因为钱变大了odds就改变了。40/80以上的regulars要不就是poker math很好
,要不就是intuition很接近math optimal。基本上好一点的都会根据你的3-bet range
来估计post flop odds。
这2-3年来limit poker界改变了很多。18/10的full ring traditional TAG已经慢慢绝
种了(还是有,只是winrate越来越小)。看你在那些cardrooms。LA大部分有20/40+的
地方当nit还是可以很赚钱的。
W********m
发帖数: 7793
12
同样blind 的limit 和NL game 肯定是NL variance 大。 用不同blind 的NL 和limit game 比variance 是不对的.
我觉得limit 最大的问题时,你和鱼之间的edge 不是很大, 因为bet 是capped. NL
game 里的sizing 是可以用来exploit fish 最大的edge 之一。Limit 里面却不行.
s*******o
发帖数: 4896
13
对,bet sizing对打鱼来说太重要了

limit game 比variance 是不对的.
NL

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 同样blind 的limit 和NL game 肯定是NL variance 大。 用不同blind 的NL 和limit game 比variance 是不对的.
: 我觉得limit 最大的问题时,你和鱼之间的edge 不是很大, 因为bet 是capped. NL
: game 里的sizing 是可以用来exploit fish 最大的edge 之一。Limit 里面却不行.

k******t
发帖数: 257
14
There is none 20/40 NL, 20/40 limit is a lot bigger than 2/5.
Easily 2k swing.

游戏

【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: 其实Limit 在很多方面是值得大书特书的。只是目前Limit已经沦为old school们的游戏
: 同样的盲注,Limit的swing不比NL小...
: 平均下来每10把赢一把,然后还要比一般人紧,选择起首牌更严格,可能差不多
: 一个小时才能赢上一把,还未必是大pot。想Bluff也很难奏效
: 50BB坐下来,很有可能一把没赢都全出去了

p****r
发帖数: 9164
15
different skill set. just very different game. lots of concept in limit
game is even more difficult and complicated than NL game.
Limit game is prett much dead now days though. In vegas, only one casino
-Bellagio has big stake limit game running regularly from 15-30 to 100/200.

【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 对,bet sizing对打鱼来说太重要了
:
: limit game 比variance 是不对的.
: NL

p****r
发帖数: 9164
16
there is 20/40 NL running on a regular basis in commerce. hehe. lots of
high stake limit game in commerce as well.
guess 20/40 limit is similar to 2k capped 5/10 NL?

【在 k******t 的大作中提到】
: There is none 20/40 NL, 20/40 limit is a lot bigger than 2/5.
: Easily 2k swing.
:
: 游戏

g******s
发帖数: 211
17
Yesterday I played small stake 3/6 Limit to test water. Bot-in 10BB only and
did not need to reload. Played about 4 hours and finished at average of 5
BB/hr.
Now I am hooked, for the following reasons:
1. Variance is a lot smaller. With the cap, a typical hand is 3 or 4BB.
Bad beats are not that bad.
2. People are generally nicer, and more fun. When playing NL, I rarely show
hands if not necessary. But I feel fine to show the winning card in the
limit game.
3. It is very entertaining to build up different shapes of stacks and peel
off a stack to enter the fight.
4. It is also very entertaining to see huge amount of white chips flowing
around and take your time to stack them up :)
g******s
发帖数: 211
18
What is your advice for Axs in multi-player situation:
1. Do you limp to see the flop?
2. If flop has two cards in the same suite and no pair, how can you resist
not chasing to the river?



drawing

【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】
: when they draw, their odds are really good. i talked to a few of the pros
: and that is how they survived. and mathematically if you can displine
: yourself to play only these made hands, you are well better off than drawing
: ......

T********n
发帖数: 528
19
1) If you are playing low limit "no fold'em hold'em" (i.e., people chase and
pay off weak holdings) - Small Stakes Hold'em (Ed Miller/Sklansky)
advocates playing any AXs in any position for one bet because AXs plays very
well in multi-way pots which are common in low stakes. So yes, you should
definitely limp, unless it's already folded to you in late position, then
you go ahead and open raise as stealing .75 bb is higher expectation than
most AX. Once it's post flop, you generally only continue if you hit a
flush draw, a pair, or a gutshot and an overcard (so if you have A5s and
flop is K42 that's fine to continue even without backdoor flush possibility)
. Juts don't get crazy with one pair with small AX as AX is the most common
hand to play.
2) In limit hold'em, if you flop a flush draw you generally always should
draw for the flush unless you have strong strong reason to believe your
flush draw is no good (for example, if the pot on flop was 7 way for 4 bets,
and you're drawing to a 7 high flush, you can generally assume your flush
draw is no good). Except for those extreme scenarios, you should always
draw to your flush (and O/E straight, for that matter).
Once you start moving higher in limits where pots become more common 2 or 3
way, AXs starts decreasing significantly in value.

【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: What is your advice for Axs in multi-player situation:
: 1. Do you limp to see the flop?
: 2. If flop has two cards in the same suite and no pair, how can you resist
: not chasing to the river?
:
:
:
: drawing

T********n
发帖数: 528
20
On variance with same blinds - of course you shouldn't compare given same
blinds. This is why usually limit to NL variance comparisons are done with
comparing buyins (while more detailed comparisons take into account winrate)
. So you can say NL 100 is close enough to equate to 3/6 LHE (3/6 LHE is
bigger), and given those two games if you play a TAG winning style, in
general LHE has higher variance. The only time NL 100 will be a higher
variance is if you play a "see you at the river" game and let best hand win
at river without protecting your hand. But that wouldn't be "NL has greater
variance" that is "that particular style of NL has greater variance (and is
generally bad)". Limit hold'em is a sick sick game. The smaller your
winrate is, the more likely 300BB swings become (1 BB/100 winner will
experience on average a 300BB negative swing once a year or so). Convert
that to buyins and it makes you puke. I have gone through a 466bb swing in
one session of 30/60 (4 tabling online back in the good old days) and my
winrate was 1+bb/100 that year/lifetime. Convert that to buyins in
equivalent NL games and that'd make you puke.
It's commonly said that LHE is a game of more decisions with smaller impact
per decision. While NL is a game of less decisions with higher impact per
decision (It's not uncommon for winning 2-5 NL players to rely largely on a
strong preflop and flop game).
So yes, your edge with the fish is small because the edge is finite per
decision point (as an example, the odds for chasing is so much better in
most limit scenarios). But fishes can be exploited just the same in limit,
just in a different manner.

limit game 比variance 是不对的.
NL

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 同样blind 的limit 和NL game 肯定是NL variance 大。 用不同blind 的NL 和limit game 比variance 是不对的.
: 我觉得limit 最大的问题时,你和鱼之间的edge 不是很大, 因为bet 是capped. NL
: game 里的sizing 是可以用来exploit fish 最大的edge 之一。Limit 里面却不行.

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T********n
发帖数: 528
21
20/40 NL doesn't happen that often at Commerce. And it's becoming more of a
'vulture' game these days where players arrange to start at the same time
and once fish busts everyone leaves at the same time. The only exception is
during LAPC or Commerce tournaments where more money/players are gathered,
even then, these days the half PLO half NL games is taking over as the big
unlimited game while there are still white chip games for mixed/LHE.
Part of the reason is the recent economy recession. Another is no limit
hold'em is losing its allure to rich fishes. But the strongest reason is
Kenny Tran invited too many fishes to his private game - that's why he got
banned by Commerce (or so I hear).

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: there is 20/40 NL running on a regular basis in commerce. hehe. lots of
: high stake limit game in commerce as well.
: guess 20/40 limit is similar to 2k capped 5/10 NL?

p****r
发帖数: 9164
22
have not been there for a while , guess I am outdated about commerce game.

I see Kenny tran all time these days at Aria , playing high take mixed
game. lol. Once I saw him bring a "xiao mi" with him, a cute vietnam girl.
Confirmed by my friend that girl is not his wife.
I got a chance to meet a Pro a few weeks ago. He plays a lot of private
game in LA these days, but the rake is extremely high-whenever you win, you
need to tip 10% of your winning to the host. You do not pay rake if you
lose. The min buyin is 100k, but only 2-3 pro, and the rest are big rich
fish.

a
is
,

【在 T********n 的大作中提到】
: 20/40 NL doesn't happen that often at Commerce. And it's becoming more of a
: 'vulture' game these days where players arrange to start at the same time
: and once fish busts everyone leaves at the same time. The only exception is
: during LAPC or Commerce tournaments where more money/players are gathered,
: even then, these days the half PLO half NL games is taking over as the big
: unlimited game while there are still white chip games for mixed/LHE.
: Part of the reason is the recent economy recession. Another is no limit
: hold'em is losing its allure to rich fishes. But the strongest reason is
: Kenny Tran invited too many fishes to his private game - that's why he got
: banned by Commerce (or so I hear).

p****r
发帖数: 9164
23
very nice post!
看来是前辈啊,欢迎多来指点,交流!

with
winrate)
win
greater
is

【在 T********n 的大作中提到】
: On variance with same blinds - of course you shouldn't compare given same
: blinds. This is why usually limit to NL variance comparisons are done with
: comparing buyins (while more detailed comparisons take into account winrate)
: . So you can say NL 100 is close enough to equate to 3/6 LHE (3/6 LHE is
: bigger), and given those two games if you play a TAG winning style, in
: general LHE has higher variance. The only time NL 100 will be a higher
: variance is if you play a "see you at the river" game and let best hand win
: at river without protecting your hand. But that wouldn't be "NL has greater
: variance" that is "that particular style of NL has greater variance (and is
: generally bad)". Limit hold'em is a sick sick game. The smaller your

W********m
发帖数: 7793
24

On variance with same blinds - of course you shouldn't compare given same
blinds. This is why usually limit to NL variance comparisons are done with
comparing buyins (while more detailed comparisons take into account winrate)
. So you can say NL 100 is close enough to equate to 3/6 LHE (3/6 LHE is
bigger), and given those two games if you play a TAG winning style, in
general LHE has higher variance. The only time NL 100 will be a higher
variance is if you play a "see you at the river" game and let best hand win
at river without protecting your hand. But that wouldn't be "NL has greater
variance" that is "that particular style of NL has greater variance (and is
generally bad)". Limit hold'em is a sick sick game. The smaller your
winrate is, the more likely 300BB swings become (1 BB/100 winner will
experience on average a 300BB negative swing once a year or so). Convert
that to buyins and it makes you puke. I have gone through a 466bb swing in
one session of 30/60 (4 tabling online back in the good old days) and my
winrate was 1+bb/100 that year/lifetime. Convert that to buyins in
equivalent NL games and that'd make you puke.
--The only conclusion I get from this paragraph is "1) limited game has less
edge (smaller winrate); 2) limited game has less swing per blind compared
to NL". Pretty much what I said.
It's commonly said that LHE is a game of more decisions with smaller impact
per decision. While NL is a game of less decisions with higher impact per
decision (It's not uncommon for winning 2-5 NL players to rely largely on a
strong preflop and flop game).
--can not agree at all for the last sentence except maybe for short stack NL
game, which is probably the least of the NL game.
So yes, your edge with the fish is small because the edge is finite per
decision point (as an example, the odds for chasing is so much better in
most limit scenarios). But fishes can be exploited just the same in limit,
just in a different manner.
--No question here, Fish can be exploit in Limit game. I was only saying
that you lost one big edge in sizing.

【在 T********n 的大作中提到】
: On variance with same blinds - of course you shouldn't compare given same
: blinds. This is why usually limit to NL variance comparisons are done with
: comparing buyins (while more detailed comparisons take into account winrate)
: . So you can say NL 100 is close enough to equate to 3/6 LHE (3/6 LHE is
: bigger), and given those two games if you play a TAG winning style, in
: general LHE has higher variance. The only time NL 100 will be a higher
: variance is if you play a "see you at the river" game and let best hand win
: at river without protecting your hand. But that wouldn't be "NL has greater
: variance" that is "that particular style of NL has greater variance (and is
: generally bad)". Limit hold'em is a sick sick game. The smaller your

a*****h
发帖数: 2182
25
good, add some salt,
in limit, you win from accumulative mistakes from your opponent, in no limit
, most time, you win from key mistakes from your opponent. in no limit, you
can make mistakes to trick your opponent in order for them to make key mist
ake later.
limit is science, while no limit is art

with
winrate)
win
greater
is

【在 T********n 的大作中提到】
: On variance with same blinds - of course you shouldn't compare given same
: blinds. This is why usually limit to NL variance comparisons are done with
: comparing buyins (while more detailed comparisons take into account winrate)
: . So you can say NL 100 is close enough to equate to 3/6 LHE (3/6 LHE is
: bigger), and given those two games if you play a TAG winning style, in
: general LHE has higher variance. The only time NL 100 will be a higher
: variance is if you play a "see you at the river" game and let best hand win
: at river without protecting your hand. But that wouldn't be "NL has greater
: variance" that is "that particular style of NL has greater variance (and is
: generally bad)". Limit hold'em is a sick sick game. The smaller your

T********n
发帖数: 528
26
I wasn't disagreeing with you in the first place. I was just expanding on
some more explanations on differences between LHE and NL as it relates to
variance.
Regarding your disagreement in what I said about 'winning' 2-5 players and
how it's not uncommon for some of them to just rely on preflop/on-the-flop..
. I should probably qualify that with "breakeven/small winners" versus "big
winners". Bigger winners have a more complete arsenal. Then again, bigger
winners don't typically stay at the 2-5 level. I know of a few people that
grind out a decent living at 2-5 but the far greater majority who are good
enough to have a high winrate at 2-5 will move on to bigger games unless 2-5
or so happens to be the largest game in their area.

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【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
:
: On variance with same blinds - of course you shouldn't compare given same
: blinds. This is why usually limit to NL variance comparisons are done with
: comparing buyins (while more detailed comparisons take into account winrate)
: . So you can say NL 100 is close enough to equate to 3/6 LHE (3/6 LHE is
: bigger), and given those two games if you play a TAG winning style, in
: general LHE has higher variance. The only time NL 100 will be a higher
: variance is if you play a "see you at the river" game and let best hand win
: at river without protecting your hand. But that wouldn't be "NL has greater
: variance" that is "that particular style of NL has greater variance (and is

T********n
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Because I no longer work/live in the LA area I don't get to go to Commerce
much anymore - maybe once a month on average. But most of the people I grew
up in my "poker career" have gone pro and the majority of them choose
Commerce as their stomping ground for day-to-day and follow the circuit
around.
Sad to hear about Kenny and a "xiao mi", although that's somewhat to be
expected for poker players with a lot of cash. When I played actively, his
wife (Jayde) was one of the most frequent regulars in our games both on-line
and live and we were consider friends as far as regulars go.
There are a lot of private games in LA, I think I know the one you're
talking about - it got busted up by police maybe half a year ago and made
headlines on tabloids and 2p2 because of the celebrities involved. Or maybe
it's a different one, but they are all pretty similar.
Private games is one of the reasons Vegas pros and other pros dislike LA
players, because we have so many private games that they don't have access
to. Luckily because I worked in LA, LA pros considered me 'one of them' and
invited me to some of the games. I'm also pretty talkative and friendly at
the table which helps my image and entertains the rich fish. Over time, I
played in quite a few high stakes private games in the LA areas.

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you

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: very nice post!
: 看来是前辈啊,欢迎多来指点,交流!
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p****r
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I am pretty sure they play different private game in LA since they played
there last month. Heard Ben lamb made several millions last few month in
private games. There is rarely high take private game in Vegas since most
pro choose to play at casino once they get a game. Heard these private game
can be extemely profitable.
I met some Chinese Pro in commerce as well, regs in 10-20NL or 20-40NL.
Several of them made about over half million last few years as far as I know
. Since you are not a full time poker player and can reach this high level,
you must have lots of talent both in poker and outside of poker.

Again, welcome to this board! Send me a message once you get a chance to
visit Vegas as well.



grew
his
line

【在 T********n 的大作中提到】
: Because I no longer work/live in the LA area I don't get to go to Commerce
: much anymore - maybe once a month on average. But most of the people I grew
: up in my "poker career" have gone pro and the majority of them choose
: Commerce as their stomping ground for day-to-day and follow the circuit
: around.
: Sad to hear about Kenny and a "xiao mi", although that's somewhat to be
: expected for poker players with a lot of cash. When I played actively, his
: wife (Jayde) was one of the most frequent regulars in our games both on-line
: and live and we were consider friends as far as regulars go.
: There are a lot of private games in LA, I think I know the one you're

T********n
发帖数: 528
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Thanks for the warm welcome and the 包子! I love 包子。
My specialty is/was limit hold'em, and limit games of most formats. I
rarely play NL Hold'em, except for the yearly attempt at WSOP ME back in the
days when winning means something more than $ (after Moneymaker but before
UIGEA)
I sure miss the days of grinding poker but with a steady 9-5 job these days
I only play casually at local card clubs and online, just waiting/wishing
for poker to be regulated in USA so I can play here. Last year when I was
in China for 4-5 weeks I played lots of Pokerstars. Good times :)
And don't get me wrong, even though I never played professionally, I put
serious study and volume into my game. One way that makes me feel like the
time is well spent is answering people's questions. So to the extent that I
can, I'll patrol the boards and try to add my two cents and hopefuly it's
helpful.

game
.
know
,

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: I am pretty sure they play different private game in LA since they played
: there last month. Heard Ben lamb made several millions last few month in
: private games. There is rarely high take private game in Vegas since most
: pro choose to play at casino once they get a game. Heard these private game
: can be extemely profitable.
: I met some Chinese Pro in commerce as well, regs in 10-20NL or 20-40NL.
: Several of them made about over half million last few years as far as I know
: . Since you are not a full time poker player and can reach this high level,
: you must have lots of talent both in poker and outside of poker.
:

g******s
发帖数: 211
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Well explained, thank you :)

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【在 T********n 的大作中提到】
: 1) If you are playing low limit "no fold'em hold'em" (i.e., people chase and
: pay off weak holdings) - Small Stakes Hold'em (Ed Miller/Sklansky)
: advocates playing any AXs in any position for one bet because AXs plays very
: well in multi-way pots which are common in low stakes. So yes, you should
: definitely limp, unless it's already folded to you in late position, then
: you go ahead and open raise as stealing .75 bb is higher expectation than
: most AX. Once it's post flop, you generally only continue if you hit a
: flush draw, a pair, or a gutshot and an overcard (so if you have A5s and
: flop is K42 that's fine to continue even without backdoor flush possibility)
: . Juts don't get crazy with one pair with small AX as AX is the most common

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