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f*****g
发帖数: 15860
1
俺虽然去不了,眼馋一下也好?
p****r
发帖数: 9164
2
so far :

drama queen : confirmed.
me: very likely
sw34: maybe
reaver: maybe.
fryking: confirmed not coming.
could have a lot more though.


【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 俺虽然去不了,眼馋一下也好?
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
3
drama queen的打法象刀子,刀刀戳在low stake多数人的最痛处,俺看好她,最近两次
tournaments连续以chip leader打入FT也不是完全偶然的。
如她自己说的,如果tilt control再好些,收放(主要是收)再自如些威力更大。

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: so far :
:
: drama queen : confirmed.
: me: very likely
: sw34: maybe
: reaver: maybe.
: fryking: confirmed not coming.
: could have a lot more though.
:

s*********r
发帖数: 4210
4
所以要去跟她学习一下,再跟player学习一下。就上2/5了。
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
5
你稳当,也有时间,的确应该上上试试。

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 所以要去跟她学习一下,再跟player学习一下。就上2/5了。
p****r
发帖数: 9164
6
if she is really serious about winning in poker, then one of first thing
that she has to cut dealer tips. She said she tip 12$ for a 500$ pot. If
you tip that way, you almost have no chance to show profit in long term. Our
edge is not that big. Basically NEVER tip over rake. For 1-2Nl , max tip
should be capped at 2-3$.
I played so many live session, never tip over 10$. I tip over 5$ less
than 5 times, all these pots are at least 2k and I am very familiar with
dealer. I played some 10-20NL games, ppl in these games tip far less than 2
-5NL. hoho.


【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: drama queen的打法象刀子,刀刀戳在low stake多数人的最痛处,俺看好她,最近两次
: tournaments连续以chip leader打入FT也不是完全偶然的。
: 如她自己说的,如果tilt control再好些,收放(主要是收)再自如些威力更大。

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
7
嗯,俺这次听你的,最多给了$3,呵呵。

Our
2

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: if she is really serious about winning in poker, then one of first thing
: that she has to cut dealer tips. She said she tip 12$ for a 500$ pot. If
: you tip that way, you almost have no chance to show profit in long term. Our
: edge is not that big. Basically NEVER tip over rake. For 1-2Nl , max tip
: should be capped at 2-3$.
: I played so many live session, never tip over 10$. I tip over 5$ less
: than 5 times, all these pots are at least 2k and I am very familiar with
: dealer. I played some 10-20NL games, ppl in these games tip far less than 2
: -5NL. hoho.
:

g**s
发帖数: 1114
8
Hehe, you also tip 12$ for a 500$ pot before?

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,俺这次听你的,最多给了$3,呵呵。
:
: Our
: 2

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
9
$500不至于,$1K的pot俺干过,royal flush那次也干过,呵呵,Caesars AC没有一个
dealer不认识俺的。

【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: Hehe, you also tip 12$ for a 500$ pot before?
W********m
发帖数: 7793
10
这个是事实, 上次你一进那poker 室, 就看见有人和你打招呼.. lol..

Caesars AC没有一个dealer不认识俺的。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: $500不至于,$1K的pot俺干过,royal flush那次也干过,呵呵,Caesars AC没有一个
: dealer不认识俺的。

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l*****g
发帖数: 1128
11
搞了半天,就我一个人CONFIRMED。

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: so far :
:
: drama queen : confirmed.
: me: very likely
: sw34: maybe
: reaver: maybe.
: fryking: confirmed not coming.
: could have a lot more though.
:

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
12
他们恐怕很难再看见孔乙己了,AC是个遥远的摇篮,等DC周围几个赌场合法化搞起来,
就更不去了。就是聚会也估计是在borgata。
Caesars要真在家门口开起来了,俺估计又能白金会员了,一礼拜打2个小session肯定
可以。

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这个是事实, 上次你一进那poker 室, 就看见有人和你打招呼.. lol..
:
: Caesars AC没有一个dealer不认识俺的。

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
13
这个你不要担心,加州那几位去的概率很大。
修养几个礼拜,等你好消息,戒骄戒躁。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 搞了半天,就我一个人CONFIRMED。
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
14
首先,多谢版主夸奖,POKER我还是算新手,只是现在感觉懂点套路了。其次,不要叫
我DRAMA QUEEN 或鱼刺MM,没一个好听的。几百年没绰号,这次一下搞了这么多,适应
不过来。再次,TILT CONTROL真的是我最大问题。而且很多时候我都知道自己在TILT,
但就是起不了身。我的TILT一般都是LOOSE TILT, 所以QUIT是最好办法,但有时自己
就是没那个WILL POWER,不过这次VEGAS之行我在这方面还是有点进步的,比以前要好
。不过,还是想听听大家意见。就是在自己不想QUIT的情况下怎么说服自己QUIT?

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: drama queen的打法象刀子,刀刀戳在low stake多数人的最痛处,俺看好她,最近两次
: tournaments连续以chip leader打入FT也不是完全偶然的。
: 如她自己说的,如果tilt control再好些,收放(主要是收)再自如些威力更大。

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
15
嘿,我哪骄哪躁了?

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 这个你不要担心,加州那几位去的概率很大。
: 修养几个礼拜,等你好消息,戒骄戒躁。

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
16
你说的对,不过我就是不好意思。很多时候我都是收BLIND的,但还是给小费。特别是
在LOCAL CASINO,DEALER都认识,都聊天,更加不好意思给少小费了。不过比起我LG,
我在赌场确实很受欢迎,估计就是因为我TIP不错的原因吧。

Our
2

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: if she is really serious about winning in poker, then one of first thing
: that she has to cut dealer tips. She said she tip 12$ for a 500$ pot. If
: you tip that way, you almost have no chance to show profit in long term. Our
: edge is not that big. Basically NEVER tip over rake. For 1-2Nl , max tip
: should be capped at 2-3$.
: I played so many live session, never tip over 10$. I tip over 5$ less
: than 5 times, all these pots are at least 2k and I am very familiar with
: dealer. I played some 10-20NL games, ppl in these games tip far less than 2
: -5NL. hoho.
:

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
17
当时还觉得TIP少了呢,老想着是不是应该再给她5块,直到DEALER说不错了我才放下心
来。

Our
2

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: if she is really serious about winning in poker, then one of first thing
: that she has to cut dealer tips. She said she tip 12$ for a 500$ pot. If
: you tip that way, you almost have no chance to show profit in long term. Our
: edge is not that big. Basically NEVER tip over rake. For 1-2Nl , max tip
: should be capped at 2-3$.
: I played so many live session, never tip over 10$. I tip over 5$ less
: than 5 times, all these pots are at least 2k and I am very familiar with
: dealer. I played some 10-20NL games, ppl in these games tip far less than 2
: -5NL. hoho.
:

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
18
容易tilt就是燥的一种表现,俺直接tilt可能不严重,但是容易打长sessions,其实也
是一种间接tilt.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 嘿,我哪骄哪躁了?
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
19
你要她们高兴作甚?也不会做牌让你赢。
一个trip下来,要是白白多给几十上百块,长期确实可观,毕竟1/2NL这样的stake,好
玩家长期hr rate才十几块。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 当时还觉得TIP少了呢,老想着是不是应该再给她5块,直到DEALER说不错了我才放下心
: 来。
:
: Our
: 2

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
20
有道理,主要是没耐心。特别是在没休息好的情况下很容易TILT,什么都玩,然后是死
都要玩,也不爱TAKE A BREAK,其实很多时候我都意识到自己不在状态,打得很烂,但
就是不QUIT,真是没办法。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 容易tilt就是燥的一种表现,俺直接tilt可能不严重,但是容易打长sessions,其实也
: 是一种间接tilt.

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f*****g
发帖数: 15860
21
她们要一小时发得快,20+手,1/2NL这种基本上把把见flop的烂玩法,$1小费保底是有
的,也就是说一小时$20+5(基本工资)=25是没问题的,稍微碰见几个爱给的,或者
short handed table(手数更多),可能都要奔$40去了。
这工作PT它们要俺的话俺干,呵呵。
WV有个神人dealer,只有6个指头,一只手4个指头给齐齐切掉了,只剩个半厘米的桩子
,可是人家居然用这几个桩子夹牌,发牌,一点不逊色,赞!

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 当时还觉得TIP少了呢,老想着是不是应该再给她5块,直到DEALER说不错了我才放下心
: 来。
:
: Our
: 2

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
22
you cannot beat me for the longest session, hehe, fri noon in, mon early
morning out... breaks were like 15 mins cap.
PROUD DONKEY!

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 有道理,主要是没耐心。特别是在没休息好的情况下很容易TILT,什么都玩,然后是死
: 都要玩,也不爱TAKE A BREAK,其实很多时候我都意识到自己不在状态,打得很烂,但
: 就是不QUIT,真是没办法。

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
23
很多时候我也不是要他们高兴,而是真的觉得感激,大POT TIP 5-8块是常事,而且还
嘴上拼命感谢DEALER没让他们RIVER SUCKED OUT ON ME。 有时想想也挺可笑的。不过
,我看到很多人输了都骂DEALER,有时觉得他们也不容易。这点我倒是很好,别人在怎
么SUCK OUT我都不会怪DEALER,因为觉得跟他们一点关系都没有,我一般是怪自己没打
好,有时也怪怪PLAYER怎么那烂牌也CALL之类的。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 你要她们高兴作甚?也不会做牌让你赢。
: 一个trip下来,要是白白多给几十上百块,长期确实可观,毕竟1/2NL这样的stake,好
: 玩家长期hr rate才十几块。

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
24
You mentioned that. 72 hours. That was crazy.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: you cannot beat me for the longest session, hehe, fri noon in, mon early
: morning out... breaks were like 15 mins cap.
: PROUD DONKEY!

s*********r
发帖数: 4210
25
need to find a cheaper airfare. damn
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
26
i actually just realized this or didn't pay as much attention before.
at WV casino, $12/hr session fee + tip, for me, could easily be at least $15
/hour, a normal session of 8 hours, we have to beat $120 to come ahead.
you know how hard sometimes it is when you run cold, or even if it's "normal
" session where we are only up +/- $200.
over years, we've paid thousands in tips (assuming $3/hr, 400+ hours), how
much did we win in the end?

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 很多时候我也不是要他们高兴,而是真的觉得感激,大POT TIP 5-8块是常事,而且还
: 嘴上拼命感谢DEALER没让他们RIVER SUCKED OUT ON ME。 有时想想也挺可笑的。不过
: ,我看到很多人输了都骂DEALER,有时觉得他们也不容易。这点我倒是很好,别人在怎
: 么SUCK OUT我都不会怪DEALER,因为觉得跟他们一点关系都没有,我一般是怪自己没打
: 好,有时也怪怪PLAYER怎么那烂牌也CALL之类的。

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
27
it's so pathetic... and guess what? i was playing 3/6L, lol, what a joke!

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: You mentioned that. 72 hours. That was crazy.
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
28
Actually it is not that hard to understand. My longest session was from 3/6L
also. I was so addicted to poker at that time, and the poker tuition I
talked about earlier was mostly paid for playing 3/6L also. I didn't lose
much money since the day I started playing 1/2NL, and I never ever want to
go back to play 3/6L again. Even at times that I needed to wait for 2 hours
for 1/2NL with other 3/6L seats open, I would still choose to wait than
playing 3/6L instead.

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: it's so pathetic... and guess what? i was playing 3/6L, lol, what a joke!
W********m
发帖数: 7793
29
have you thought about that you should play looser on a hourly charged table
than a regular raked table?
I think you should.
【 fryking (赤道企鹅) 的大作中提到: 】
15
normal
H****r
发帖数: 2801
30
可惜早跟朋友约好了去Palm Spring...听说那边新开了一个赌场,我们LA帮要全杀过去
。以后版上的聚会我们尽量参加。

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: so far :
:
: drama queen : confirmed.
: me: very likely
: sw34: maybe
: reaver: maybe.
: fryking: confirmed not coming.
: could have a lot more though.
:

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w********1
发帖数: 1414
31
我村有一个人2只手只有2个手指,都是大拇指,一样打牌,只不过面前放了2个米罐而
已。
问他其余的手指呢?别人告诉我,是他自己剁的,破一次誓后就剁一个指头。
很多年没有回去了,不知道现在他还有几个手指头。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 她们要一小时发得快,20+手,1/2NL这种基本上把把见flop的烂玩法,$1小费保底是有
: 的,也就是说一小时$20+5(基本工资)=25是没问题的,稍微碰见几个爱给的,或者
: short handed table(手数更多),可能都要奔$40去了。
: 这工作PT它们要俺的话俺干,呵呵。
: WV有个神人dealer,只有6个指头,一只手4个指头给齐齐切掉了,只剩个半厘米的桩子
: ,可是人家居然用这几个桩子夹牌,发牌,一点不逊色,赞!

D*A
发帖数: 1169
32
及时quit可能是现场业余选手最难以遵从的条例之一。同时也极为重要。
Poker的本质是波动的,你最终收益取决于每个session止于高点还是低点。
问题在于,对你我这样的娱乐选手,打牌同时也是过瘾的过程,开(飞)了两小时到赌场
瘾没过足就走——需要非凡的意志力。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 首先,多谢版主夸奖,POKER我还是算新手,只是现在感觉懂点套路了。其次,不要叫
: 我DRAMA QUEEN 或鱼刺MM,没一个好听的。几百年没绰号,这次一下搞了这么多,适应
: 不过来。再次,TILT CONTROL真的是我最大问题。而且很多时候我都知道自己在TILT,
: 但就是起不了身。我的TILT一般都是LOOSE TILT, 所以QUIT是最好办法,但有时自己
: 就是没那个WILL POWER,不过这次VEGAS之行我在这方面还是有点进步的,比以前要好
: 。不过,还是想听听大家意见。就是在自己不想QUIT的情况下怎么说服自己QUIT?

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
33
看来到时就我一人在LV游逛了。

【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: 可惜早跟朋友约好了去Palm Spring...听说那边新开了一个赌场,我们LA帮要全杀过去
: 。以后版上的聚会我们尽量参加。

D*A
发帖数: 1169
34
you can lose money much quicker in 3/6FL than 1/2NL..

6L
hours

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: Actually it is not that hard to understand. My longest session was from 3/6L
: also. I was so addicted to poker at that time, and the poker tuition I
: talked about earlier was mostly paid for playing 3/6L also. I didn't lose
: much money since the day I started playing 1/2NL, and I never ever want to
: go back to play 3/6L again. Even at times that I needed to wait for 2 hours
: for 1/2NL with other 3/6L seats open, I would still choose to wait than
: playing 3/6L instead.

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
35
That's true.

【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: you can lose money much quicker in 3/6FL than 1/2NL..
:
: 6L
: hours

s*********r
发帖数: 4210
36
too bad, you will have some company.

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: That's true.
s*********r
发帖数: 4210
37
I think they are going to pot-rake next month.

15
normal

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i actually just realized this or didn't pay as much attention before.
: at WV casino, $12/hr session fee + tip, for me, could easily be at least $15
: /hour, a normal session of 8 hours, we have to beat $120 to come ahead.
: you know how hard sometimes it is when you run cold, or even if it's "normal
: " session where we are only up +/- $200.
: over years, we've paid thousands in tips (assuming $3/hr, 400+ hours), how
: much did we win in the end?

p******e
发帖数: 327
38
3 days poker?? that's crazy. Did you ever sleep in those 3 days?
The longest session I played was 24 hours non-stop except restroom time. Can
't do that anymore...

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: you cannot beat me for the longest session, hehe, fri noon in, mon early
: morning out... breaks were like 15 mins cap.
: PROUD DONKEY!

p****r
发帖数: 9164
39
most likely I will be in Vegas too. see you guys then.

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: too bad, you will have some company.
p****r
发帖数: 9164
40
+1
that is exactly right.
back the time I played live full time, I tip pretty tight and still ends
up with tiping about 1.5 k-2k/ month. Tipping is a huge long term cost if you
try to survive with poker.


15
normal

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i actually just realized this or didn't pay as much attention before.
: at WV casino, $12/hr session fee + tip, for me, could easily be at least $15
: /hour, a normal session of 8 hours, we have to beat $120 to come ahead.
: you know how hard sometimes it is when you run cold, or even if it's "normal
: " session where we are only up +/- $200.
: over years, we've paid thousands in tips (assuming $3/hr, 400+ hours), how
: much did we win in the end?

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p****r
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楼主要是大概算一下一年下来给的小费,就知道有多大影响了。
你如果算一下,假如能一次只给一块小费,那你整个poker career 应该是有不少盈利
了。
向chemcat说的,sometime it takes some mental toughness to do it. But you
just have to do it if you want to survive in poker in long run.


【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 你说的对,不过我就是不好意思。很多时候我都是收BLIND的,但还是给小费。特别是
: 在LOCAL CASINO,DEALER都认识,都聊天,更加不好意思给少小费了。不过比起我LG,
: 我在赌场确实很受欢迎,估计就是因为我TIP不错的原因吧。
:
: Our
: 2

p****r
发帖数: 9164
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this is actually true. In Vegas, all no cap 5-10 and 10-20NL game charge
time instead of rake. It is justified to play somewhat looser if charged
time, especially in late position.

table

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: have you thought about that you should play looser on a hourly charged table
: than a regular raked table?
: I think you should.
: 【 fryking (赤道企鹅) 的大作中提到: 】
: 15
: normal

c*****t
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lziueng你要是经历几次恶心的runner runner bad beat以后,就看淡了。我
现在是心如铁石。Turn all in with 2 outer然后在river把别人搞了的时候也就tip $
2. 以前肯定会内疚。现在只想着他妈的我经历的恶心事也不少。这是风水轮流转关
dealer屁事没有。我没在加上一句this is poker就不错了。
p****r
发帖数: 9164
44
lol.+1
深夜灌水的确言语不凡。。。。

$

【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: lziueng你要是经历几次恶心的runner runner bad beat以后,就看淡了。我
: 现在是心如铁石。Turn all in with 2 outer然后在river把别人搞了的时候也就tip $
: 2. 以前肯定会内疚。现在只想着他妈的我经历的恶心事也不少。这是风水轮流转关
: dealer屁事没有。我没在加上一句this is poker就不错了。

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