s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 1 1. 恢复两个网站的域名为美国玩家取钱提供方便
2. 两个网站承诺不允许美国玩家参与任何的real money online poker
关键问题在于攒的FTP点数和Medal点数怎么办？ |
g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 2 Any link please?
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 1. 恢复两个网站的域名为美国玩家取钱提供方便
: 2. 两个网站承诺不允许美国玩家参与任何的real money online poker
: 关键问题在于攒的FTP点数和Medal点数怎么办？
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | |
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | |
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 This shows again that playing online poker is not illegal in us. If you can
by pass the fire wall, it is business as usual. |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 good, peace of mind, guys, quickly, hehe.
i guess you can use points to buy from their store for TV/camera/etc., if it
's allowed. if so, you can also exchange medals to points first.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 1. 恢复两个网站的域名为美国玩家取钱提供方便
: 2. 两个网站承诺不允许美国玩家参与任何的real money online poker
: 关键问题在于攒的FTP点数和Medal点数怎么办？
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 8 但是存取款得走国外银行了
can
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: This shows again that playing online poker is not illegal in us. If you can
: by pass the fire wall, it is business as usual.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 Your risk is from the poker site. Whether they will crack down VPN user
seriously. Otherwise us government is not
going to do any thing to you. It might even be good for us over long run if
we don't have money paper trails in us when it come to tax time.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我有点考虑把账号弄成China的，然后继续搞
: 不知道可行度有多大
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 10 哎，没打多久，还不够买这些东西的
it
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: good, peace of mind, guys, quickly, hehe.
: i guess you can use points to buy from their store for TV/camera/etc., if it
: 's allowed. if so, you can also exchange medals to points first.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 still, buy a few fulltilt logo lighters, they look cool, hehe.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 哎，没打多久，还不够买这些东西的
:
: it
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 12 先放着吧，等我琢磨出一种直接换账号信息的方法，弄成国内账号去
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: still, buy a few fulltilt logo lighters, they look cool, hehe.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 13 You might be better off opening a brand new account using ur Chinese
identity. That's what I would do. Linking ur self
with a foreign bank account is not smart nowadays when us government is
hungry for $$
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 先放着吧，等我琢磨出一种直接换账号信息的方法，弄成国内账号去
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 14 我ld有一个国内的银行账号，我自己也有一个很久没用过的
现在琢磨的就是把FTP信息换成国内银行账号的方便程度。。
我仔细研究了一下国内提款用wire transfer即可，存款倒是挺麻烦
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: You might be better off opening a brand new account using ur Chinese
: identity. That's what I would do. Linking ur self
: with a foreign bank account is not smart nowadays when us government is
: hungry for $$
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 15 doesn't seem to work yet..
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 1. 恢复两个网站的域名为美国玩家取钱提供方便
: 2. 两个网站承诺不允许美国玩家参与任何的real money online poker
: 关键问题在于攒的FTP点数和Medal点数怎么办？
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 we players should really organize for a big protest in DC, lol.
i guess we have at least a few millions of online players in this country.
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: doesn't seem to work yet..
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 17
I am all in for the protest if there is one. I was in 6/4 hunger strike
20 years ago. Now I lose freedom to play online poker, this is joke.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: we players should really organize for a big protest in DC, lol.
: i guess we have at least a few millions of online players in this country.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 18 what?! what brought you here? long time.
【在 k******t 的大作中提到】
:
: I am all in for the protest if there is one. I was in 6/4 hunger strike
: 20 years ago. Now I lose freedom to play online poker, this is joke.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 19 No surprise here. United states is turning into North Korea...
【在 k******t 的大作中提到】
:
: I am all in for the protest if there is one. I was in 6/4 hunger strike
: 20 years ago. Now I lose freedom to play online poker, this is joke.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 20 don't be so sad, hehe, actually like i said, there could be a great chance
to discuss online poker openly and may eventually push for a new regulation.
i understand before this, they might want to clean the house first anyway.
it's great tax money.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: No surprise here. United states is turning into North Korea...
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 21
hehe long time. haven't played for while, glad to know I can get a couple
hundred bucks back. Glad to see the board prosperous in leadership of
fryking.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: what?! what brought you here? long time.
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 22 returned my pending cashout and sent me an email to say they need some time
to study how to let US players cashout.
Dear cmis91,
We were very pleased to receive the news today that allows US players to
cash out their real money balances. In response to this update, the Cashout
Option in the PokerStars Cashier will be temporarily closed to allow us to
prepare the technical solutions and formulate the plan and processes
required to allow you to cash out your balance. In the interim, any pending
cashouts have been returned to your account in order to ensure players have
the opportunity to cash out orderly. Please be assured, US player balances
are safe. We will notify all US players as soon as the cashier is available
again. Providing you with the facility to cash out is our top priority
right now, and hopefully all US players will be able to cash out via the
PokerStars Cashier in the near future. We apologize for the temporary delay,
and sincerely appreciate your patience and cooperation, as we continue
working towards providing you with a solution to cash out.
Regards, PokerStars Support
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 1. 恢复两个网站的域名为美国玩家取钱提供方便
: 2. 两个网站承诺不允许美国玩家参与任何的real money online poker
: 关键问题在于攒的FTP点数和Medal点数怎么办？
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z**********3
发帖数: 178 | 23 前辈！
【在 k******t 的大作中提到】
:
: hehe long time. haven't played for while, glad to know I can get a couple
: hundred bucks back. Glad to see the board prosperous in leadership of
: fryking.
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 24 If there was a tax, not so US player will play considering 40% of your own
money goes to tax. It could be a tough time for FTP and PS also, because
they will turn in a lot of tax.
Suppose I make 50000 USD, 20000 goes to IRS. What a crap!
Not only our edge diminishes, but we also feel get robbed.
regulation.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: don't be so sad, hehe, actually like i said, there could be a great chance
: to discuss online poker openly and may eventually push for a new regulation.
: i understand before this, they might want to clean the house first anyway.
: it's great tax money.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 25 honestly, poker winning should never be taxed at the first place,
because these money that are in play are already taxed. It is double/triple tax at its best. It is the same reason why gift tax is so ridiculous as well in US. |
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 26 Don't you know Uncle Sam is the biggest robber and gangster in this world?
All the money belongs to gov. We got fu*ked left and right. Crap, I bought a
new apt only know that I have to pay not only property tax, but transfer
tax for the title, mortgage tax and it add up to another 10k or so. f*ck, f*
ck, f*ck.
And taking money back from FTP might not be that easy, saw this msg from ftp
website
"To further clarify any confusion, although the government did not seize
individual players' accounts, it did seize the bank accounts in which those
funds are held. At this time, the government has refused to release the
seized bank accounts."
Uncle Sam is really the gangster.
triple tax at its best. It is the same reason why gift tax is so ridiculous
as well in US.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: honestly, poker winning should never be taxed at the first place,
: because these money that are in play are already taxed. It is double/triple tax at its best. It is the same reason why gift tax is so ridiculous as well in US.
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 27 I just read 2+2, FTP does not agree to withdraw, the reason is that the fund
gets hold by US gov.
PS does mention that they can cashout.
"To further clarify any confusion, although the government did not seize
individual players' accounts, it did seize the bank accounts in which those
funds are held. At this time, the government has refused to release the
seized bank accounts."
a
f*
ftp
those
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Don't you know Uncle Sam is the biggest robber and gangster in this world?
: All the money belongs to gov. We got fu*ked left and right. Crap, I bought a
: new apt only know that I have to pay not only property tax, but transfer
: tax for the title, mortgage tax and it add up to another 10k or so. f*ck, f*
: ck, f*ck.
: And taking money back from FTP might not be that easy, saw this msg from ftp
: website
: "To further clarify any confusion, although the government did not seize
: individual players' accounts, it did seize the bank accounts in which those
: funds are held. At this time, the government has refused to release the
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 28 post on Kungfu-poker, funny but true.
这是个挺不错的消息，不过我觉得ps能还美国人的钱，未必就能很快还其他国家玩家的
钱。打个比方说，ps欠了良民200块，欠了恶霸500块，现在良民和恶霸都找ps要钱，虽
然需要还恶霸的钱更多，但是ps还是得先还恶霸的，毕竟ps惹不起恶霸不是？至于良民
的钱能不能还上，一是要看ps还完恶霸之后，还有没有偿付能力；另一方面要看ps管理
团队的评估结果，即卷钱跑路和失去大客户后继续经营哪个方案能够实现ps的利益最大
化，当然，估计ps还是想继续做生意的。
最后特别声明：恶霸比喻美国国家机器，绝非比喻任何拥有美国国籍的玩家
a
f*
ftp
those
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: Don't you know Uncle Sam is the biggest robber and gangster in this world?
: All the money belongs to gov. We got fu*ked left and right. Crap, I bought a
: new apt only know that I have to pay not only property tax, but transfer
: tax for the title, mortgage tax and it add up to another 10k or so. f*ck, f*
: ck, f*ck.
: And taking money back from FTP might not be that easy, saw this msg from ftp
: website
: "To further clarify any confusion, although the government did not seize
: individual players' accounts, it did seize the bank accounts in which those
: funds are held. At this time, the government has refused to release the
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 29 ....还以为能拿回钱了，不知道还要等多久
不玩 online poker 也没啥，反正那点钱也很鸡肋。 |
h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 30 well that's not true. say you use $1000 to invest and buy somehthing, then
sell it to someone at $1200. both of you use after tax money. however, that
doesn't prevent you from paying the income tax.
if this gain is from a corp, the corp has to pay tax first, then any money
passed down to the employee also needs to be taxed.
triple tax at its best. It is the same reason why gift tax is so ridiculous
as well in US.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: honestly, poker winning should never be taxed at the first place,
: because these money that are in play are already taxed. It is double/triple tax at its best. It is the same reason why gift tax is so ridiculous as well in US.
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 31 看来拿了sunday million冠军是不一样，ps给我的email里只有硬生生的cashout
unsuccessful...
time
to
Cashout
us to
pending
players have
balances
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: returned my pending cashout and sent me an email to say they need some time
: to study how to let US players cashout.
: Dear cmis91,
: We were very pleased to receive the news today that allows US players to
: cash out their real money balances. In response to this update, the Cashout
: Option in the PokerStars Cashier will be temporarily closed to allow us to
: prepare the technical solutions and formulate the plan and processes
: required to allow you to cash out your balance. In the interim, any pending
: cashouts have been returned to your account in order to ensure players have
: the opportunity to cash out orderly. Please be assured, US player balances
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 32 lol. . . we are not allowed to play texas holdem in texas. .. maybe we
shall rename it to tiananmen tankem from now on. . .
long live TT'em !
【在 k******t 的大作中提到】
:
: hehe long time. haven't played for while, glad to know I can get a couple
: hundred bucks back. Glad to see the board prosperous in leadership of
: fryking.
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