f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 据2+2，就没有人11月以来e-check取出过钱来(以往只需要两天)，个别让FTP转换成
wire。
俺还以为是俺的银行个别问题，看来不是。 |
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 2 kao,那我们的钱不会被黑了吧
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 据2+2，就没有人11月以来e-check取出过钱来(以往只需要两天)，个别让FTP转换成
: wire。
: 俺还以为是俺的银行个别问题，看来不是。
|
L****n
发帖数: 490 | 3 we can only use wire now? how much it charges for using wire. |
y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 4 last time, I withdraw 950$ out of FTP. Apparently, it arrives in my bank
account through some wire processing. Only 900.50 arrives.
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: we can only use wire now? how much it charges for using wire.
|
L****n
发帖数: 490 | 5 50 dollars..... It's too much cut |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 yeah, somebody else reported his bank charged $45, while another one said $
13, which was too cheap.
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: 50 dollars..... It's too much cut
|
y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 I think FTP is working on it. Hopefully, it will be solved pretty soon.
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: 50 dollars..... It's too much cut
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 don't know, this is not the first time it happens, but very rare it takes
sooooo long (more than 1 month) and still hasn't been solved.
before, ftp would give some special bonus for such delays, but nowadays they
're getting cheap.
if this e-check deposit/withdrawal issue can't be solved, poker is gone.
after they stopped U.S. credit/debit card processing, it's already a big hit
.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: kao,那我们的钱不会被黑了吧
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 PS is having the same issue for deposit, i think this is a very wide problem
, not just due to one or two middle processors.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: I think FTP is working on it. Hopefully, it will be solved pretty soon.
|
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 10 我有个主意，嘿嘿，是不是应该联系联系ftp和ps
problem
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: PS is having the same issue for deposit, i think this is a very wide problem
: , not just due to one or two middle processors.
|
|
|
y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 Pretty much, it takes one month already, maybe much longer.
I do get 50$ bonus though, it is FTP's direct deposit.
If Poker website can not solve deposit and withdraw problems, then it pretty
much is dead by then.
after they stopped U.S. credit/debit card processing, it's already a big hit |
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 12 mlgbd，fbi有空去扫扫大街也比这么瞎折腾好啊，哎
pretty
hit
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Pretty much, it takes one month already, maybe much longer.
: I do get 50$ bonus though, it is FTP's direct deposit.
: If Poker website can not solve deposit and withdraw problems, then it pretty
: much is dead by then.
: after they stopped U.S. credit/debit card processing, it's already a big hit
|
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 13 很奇怪的是，
我这个月first deposit用的e-check方式，600一直到现在都没有charge，已经快3周了
这是正常的么？？？
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 据2+2，就没有人11月以来e-check取出过钱来(以往只需要两天)，个别让FTP转换成
: wire。
: 俺还以为是俺的银行个别问题，看来不是。
|
y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 14 It is abnormal.
Sounds to me, FTP has deposit issues also. But I guess you still can play
your 600 bucks, am I right?
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 很奇怪的是，
: 我这个月first deposit用的e-check方式，600一直到现在都没有charge，已经快3周了
: 这是正常的么？？？
|
s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 15 我是fish，已经快输光了。。。。。
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: It is abnormal.
: Sounds to me, FTP has deposit issues also. But I guess you still can play
: your 600 bucks, am I right?
|
y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 16 When I first play on FTP. I deposit 400$. The first game I played is the
Main Event Satellite(200$ buyin), quickly busted.
Then, play several 100 chips super super turbo satellite. That 400$ almost
goes away in just one day. |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 this time it has taken sooooo long, something big is happening, i guess.
for FTP or PS, if they can't get money in, they won't let money out for sure
, otherwise ppl would take huge advantage of them. like my friend did before
, who made a deposit and lost all, then he quickly closed his bank account
before the money was taken (taking a few days normally), there was nothing
FTP can do, lol.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: It is abnormal.
: Sounds to me, FTP has deposit issues also. But I guess you still can play
: your 600 bucks, am I right?
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 18 we need the fish to be able to deposit. write letter to your local
congressman!!! |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 19 you live in NJ, right? hehe, then your FTP days are numbered now, since NJ
is passing a regulation to legalize online poker (very likely to pass this
month according to 2+2). ipoker will be the only licensed operator for NJ
residents, and FTP/PS/others have to be shut down, similar to all sites
shutting down in WA.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: we need the fish to be able to deposit. write letter to your local
: congressman!!!
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 WTF! Isn't ipoker an euro site?
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: you live in NJ, right? hehe, then your FTP days are numbered now, since NJ
: is passing a regulation to legalize online poker (very likely to pass this
: month according to 2+2). ipoker will be the only licensed operator for NJ
: residents, and FTP/PS/others have to be shut down, similar to all sites
: shutting down in WA.
|
|
|
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 21 他们怎么shut down，通过ip？
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: you live in NJ, right? hehe, then your FTP days are numbered now, since NJ
: is passing a regulation to legalize online poker (very likely to pass this
: month according to 2+2). ipoker will be the only licensed operator for NJ
: residents, and FTP/PS/others have to be shut down, similar to all sites
: shutting down in WA.
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 22 just read it from 2+2. looks like i need an exit plan now from ftp~~~~~
Time to use up the tournament tickets? This F**King sucks..
US politicians are so stupid and F**Ked up in their head. |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 23 What I learnt from the bill includes:
Licenses only sites run by existing in-state casino operators and outlaws
all others.
Makes play by state residents on unlicensed sites a criminal offense.
Assesses large taxes on the sites that is likely to translate into higher
rakes and/or lower player promotional incentives.
Limits the player pool to state residents only.
California and Florida is pursuing the same bill after NJ. If NJ passes this
, I think most of the state is going to follow as well since this increase
their state revenue. All the state government are broke and they are
desperate. Pathetic. |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 sad for you, but i deserve 2 baozis bah?
this
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: What I learnt from the bill includes:
: Licenses only sites run by existing in-state casino operators and outlaws
: all others.
: Makes play by state residents on unlicensed sites a criminal offense.
: Assesses large taxes on the sites that is likely to translate into higher
: rakes and/or lower player promotional incentives.
: Limits the player pool to state residents only.
: California and Florida is pursuing the same bill after NJ. If NJ passes this
: , I think most of the state is going to follow as well since this increase
: their state revenue. All the state government are broke and they are
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 25 easy, once it's passed, the state can charge you legally, unlike UIGEA,
which only targets at banks and worst case, $10K fine for each case, no jail
time.
FTP retreated from WA like a chicken.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 他们怎么shut down，通过ip？
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 26 你问我要baozi? 开设么玩笑。。 给我2个baozi 安慰一下吧。。。
it will be pretty sad to stop playing poker on-line. 18 month hard work~~~
I will probably feel the same way when I quit playing on-line games before.
忽然发现无所事事。 a big hole in life all of a sudden. 但可能可以搞老
二乐， 反正没事做。。
哎， 白白从NL10 爬到NL 100 乐。。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: sad for you, but i deserve 2 baozis bah?
:
: this
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 no, relocate to LV and become a real pro, some 2+2er said so.
.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 你问我要baozi? 开设么玩笑。。 给我2个baozi 安慰一下吧。。。
: it will be pretty sad to stop playing poker on-line. 18 month hard work~~~
: I will probably feel the same way when I quit playing on-line games before.
: 忽然发现无所事事。 a big hole in life all of a sudden. 但可能可以搞老
: 二乐， 反正没事做。。
: 哎， 白白从NL10 爬到NL 100 乐。。
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 28 sure. easy for them to say. they are probably living in their parents'
basement at the moment...
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: no, relocate to LV and become a real pro, some 2+2er said so.
:
:
: .
|
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 29 根据注册地址就行了。反正地址对不上的话钱是取不出来的。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 他们怎么shut down，通过ip？
|
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 30 不是，我的意思是ftp怎么知道你哪个州的？ 通过取钱的bank info?
state怎么知道你在玩online poker？ 监视网络？ 那你通过代理呢？
jail
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: easy, once it's passed, the state can charge you legally, unlike UIGEA,
: which only targets at banks and worst case, $10K fine for each case, no jail
: time.
: FTP retreated from WA like a chicken.
|
|
|
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 31 那不是很简单，找个可以玩的州的人，帮忙收钱就是了啊
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: 根据注册地址就行了。反正地址对不上的话钱是取不出来的。
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 32 This time is not about withdrawing and depositing. If they make it a crimial
offense to play for state residents, it is the end. Like WA case, ftp and
ps has to withdraw in the end. No one is going to risk being charged to
play. You can get by with vpn or something. but tt is still too much risk. |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 yes, this bill, if passed, won't prevent NJers to play on other sites 100%,
but:
1) now NJ got a legal base to go after sites like FTP. this is much stronger
than UIGEA, which is only a regulation against banks. they now can sue FTP
internationally which FTP won't want to see. just like in WA, FTP won't risk
this for big potential troubles for just one state;
2) it would be a risk for NJ players. after all, even the risk may be not
that big, but who would take a criminal charge (if caught) for some small
money?
AC is suffering big right now, those casino owners and the state badly need
to kill their online competitors or at least get a good share from it.
btw, besides DE and PA, MD just finally (after a lot of troubles) approved a
large casino plan, which will take a lot of slot business in this area (
table games will come for sure in a few years).
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 那不是很简单，找个可以玩的州的人，帮忙收钱就是了啊
|
y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 34 Pretty stupid legislation idea.
It is a big industry, how can they just ignore it. If States do not do it,
some other country will do it eventually.
,
stronger
FTP
risk
need
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: yes, this bill, if passed, won't prevent NJers to play on other sites 100%,
: but:
: 1) now NJ got a legal base to go after sites like FTP. this is much stronger
: than UIGEA, which is only a regulation against banks. they now can sue FTP
: internationally which FTP won't want to see. just like in WA, FTP won't risk
: this for big potential troubles for just one state;
: 2) it would be a risk for NJ players. after all, even the risk may be not
: that big, but who would take a criminal charge (if caught) for some small
: money?
: AC is suffering big right now, those casino owners and the state badly need
|
s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 35 anyone withdraw with PS recently? Same problem? CMIS?
Just wondering. |
g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 36 Zan 没事做,搞老二.
.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 你问我要baozi? 开设么玩笑。。 给我2个baozi 安慰一下吧。。。
: it will be pretty sad to stop playing poker on-line. 18 month hard work~~~
: I will probably feel the same way when I quit playing on-line games before.
: 忽然发现无所事事。 a big hole in life all of a sudden. 但可能可以搞老
: 二乐， 反正没事做。。
: 哎， 白白从NL10 爬到NL 100 乐。。
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 Following news this past week broken by Gambling911.com that the United
States Attorney out of New York has managed to shut down an eCheck processor
for Full Tilt Poker, that online poker room hasn't exactly been upfront
with its customers. They suggested the problem was only temporary.
PokerStars has encountered the same problem and the world's largest online
poker room let its customers know right off the bat that the processor in
question had its funds froze.
Here is what Full Tilt Poker was telling its customers over the weekend:
Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.
We're sorry your deposit attempt with Instant eChecks was unsuccessful.
Unfortunately, Instant eChecks is temporarily unavailable for use on Full
Tilt Poker.
We apologize for any inconvenience and are working to resolve the issue as
soon as possible.
Meanwhile, we recommend using another payment processing option to fund your
Full Tilt Poker account. If you would like to view alternate deposit
options available to you, please visit our website at: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/deposit-real-money
When players ask about a safe and reliable method to deposit funds, we
recommend opening a Click2Pay account.
To make a deposit using Click2Pay, you'll need to open a Click2Pay account
through the Full Tilt Poker software by following these steps:
1) Log in to your Full Tilt Poker account.
2) Go to the Cashier window.
3) Select "Make a Deposit".
4) Select "Click2Pay" and follow the instructions provided.
When you make a deposit to your Full Tilt Poker account using Click2Pay, the
deposit amount will be automatically deducted from your bank account or
credit/debit card.
Your account information should consist of characters within the normal
alphanumeric range. Otherwise, your deposit will be unsuccessful. For
example, your deposit will be declined if your account information contains
underscores or apostrophes.
If you need help depositing, Tilt Pay Support provides deposit assistance on
behalf of Full Tilt Poker. You may speak with a representative by calling
toll-free in North America to 1-888-TILT-PAY (1-888-845-8729) or
international long distance by dialing your country's International Direct
Dialing prefix (IDD), followed by Tilt Pay's telephone number. For example,
from the U.K., dial: 00-1-888-845-8729. Please be advised that Tilt Pay
Support can only assist with deposit issues and is unable to assist with
general support questions, deposit limit increase requests, or Cash Transfer
inquiries.
If there's anything else we can help you with, please feel free to ask. We'
re always here to help.
That's just wonderful but some of the checks received by customers are
bouncing at banks and it is the customer that has to pay the fee incurred
for insufficient funds.
Full Tilt Poker was yet to offer an explanation for the dismantling of its
eCheck system as we headed into Monday, more than 48 hours after Gambling911
.com first alerted readers of the crackdown.
Jagajeet Chiba, Gambling911.com
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】
: anyone withdraw with PS recently? Same problem? CMIS?
: Just wondering.
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 38 While the two largest online poker rooms, PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker,
respectively, have been hit hard in recent days by the fallout from an
eCheck payment processor getting pinched, the same fate has not happened to
Doylesroom.com, at least not yet.
The reason perhaps: DoylesRoom eCheck deposits stopped back on May 1. We'
re not sure if they reinstituted the method between then and now but thus
far Gambling911 has yet to read a complaint related to DoylesRoom and
eChecks.
AbsolutePoker.com's eChecks system appears to not be affected by this latest
crisis, according to PokereCheck.com although Gambling911.com advises
caution before trying to cash a paper check issued by the company. There
were initial conflicting reports suggesting that Absolute Poker had been
impacted by this recent crackdown, though there is not a whole lot of
evidence to support this notion (i.e. players complaining about bounced
checks).
Gambling911.com had received hundreds of complaints and inquiries related to
this eCheck matter exclusive only to Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars.
PokerStars in particular has been emailing customers, letting them know that
their eChecks processor has had "funds froze" and that paper checks from
this particular processor will not be accepted by their banks. PokerStars
is trying to be as upfront about this situation with their customers as one
would expect from this pretty well regarded organization - Full Tilt Poker
(as we here at Gambling911.com would expect), not so much in terms of
keeping customers informed. PokerStars customers have noted that there are
other options readily available in which to deposit and withdraw money.
And finally, it doesn't appear as if Bodog was utilizing this payment method
. The reason being, the processor in question apparently dealt with "poker
only" websites and steered clear of those that immersed themselves in the
sports betting world such as Bodog. At least this is what we are being told
and, again, we're not reading about eCheck problems with Bodog. If you
recently received a check from Bodog - don't cash it until you contact them
first.
Please note that eChecks is a generic term used to describe electronic
checks, however, there is a processing firm well regarded called eCheck that
deals only in online casino transactions and this company is still very
much in business and experiencing zero problems with deposits and
withdrawals.
The United States Attorney out of New York State has forced the shutdown of
this eCheck processor being utilized by PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker and
reportedly seized monies as a result.
Christopher Costigan, Gambling911.com Publisher
Submitted by C Costigan on Sat, 06/06/2009 - 15:17
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】
: anyone withdraw with PS recently? Same problem? CMIS?
: Just wondering.
|
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 39 我讨厌live game， online game才是发展前途，任何阻挡历史正常发展的人，必将被
历史的洪流冲的支离破碎！！！！！！！！
,
stronger
FTP
risk
need
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: yes, this bill, if passed, won't prevent NJers to play on other sites 100%,
: but:
: 1) now NJ got a legal base to go after sites like FTP. this is much stronger
: than UIGEA, which is only a regulation against banks. they now can sue FTP
: internationally which FTP won't want to see. just like in WA, FTP won't risk
: this for big potential troubles for just one state;
: 2) it would be a risk for NJ players. after all, even the risk may be not
: that big, but who would take a criminal charge (if caught) for some small
: money?
: AC is suffering big right now, those casino owners and the state badly need
|
L****n
发帖数: 490 | 40 Got scared by Fryking. Just send request withdraw most of my money by wire
transfer. Suppose only charge 16 dollars for incoming wire. Not sure how
much it will really cost me. |
|
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 41 are you trying to scare fcf? lol.
no big deal, i guess, they'll fix it sometime, just wait...
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: Got scared by Fryking. Just send request withdraw most of my money by wire
: transfer. Suppose only charge 16 dollars for incoming wire. Not sure how
: much it will really cost me.
|
c****1
发帖数: 457 | 42 e-check withdraw from PS works perfectly for me right now.
echcek deposit and withdraw at FTP encounter some troubles now.
I suggest people deposit money at FTP now since a lot of players report that
their bank account has not been charged for a couple of weeks after the
deposit
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】
: anyone withdraw with PS recently? Same problem? CMIS?
: Just wondering.
|
s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 43 deposit money at FTP now? YOu mean deposit and run if loose; Keep if win?!
That is nice.
that
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: e-check withdraw from PS works perfectly for me right now.
: echcek deposit and withdraw at FTP encounter some troubles now.
: I suggest people deposit money at FTP now since a lot of players report that
: their bank account has not been charged for a couple of weeks after the
: deposit
|
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 44 初看NJ bill觉得终于能有licensed online poker了，然后发现不对，这分明是要断NJ
online player的生路...话说更多的人去live仍然是玩其他的table game吧？而且B&M
casino收入的大头仍然是table game，poker真的不会有太大收入... |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 45 i guess AC will die or shrink big within the next 5 years.
it's just such a boring place, nothing else to offer, unlike LV, at least
the city is better with more shows, weddings, grand canyon, and attracts ppl
from all over the world.
AC is a pure old and ugly gambling place, with dirty beach/crime, now all
the surrounding states have exact same casinos, AC is surely sun setting.
NJ
&M
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: 初看NJ bill觉得终于能有licensed online poker了，然后发现不对，这分明是要断NJ
: online player的生路...话说更多的人去live仍然是玩其他的table game吧？而且B&M
: casino收入的大头仍然是table game，poker真的不会有太大收入...
|
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 46 但是东岸需要一个类似vegas的大型综合性娱乐中心啊，要不然让大家都往bahama跑？
AC需要治理，不止是在poker方面 |
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 47 i withdrew 1000 dollars from ftp two weeks ago. now i received email that my
transaction will change to wire and i will receive $50 to cover any wire
expenses.
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: 但是东岸需要一个类似vegas的大型综合性娱乐中心啊，要不然让大家都往bahama跑？
: AC需要治理，不止是在poker方面
|
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 48 yes, but:
1) for entertainments other than gambling, AC offers next to nothing. the
shows/concerts are a joke;
2) shopping, no high-end good stores/outlets;
3) beach, joke, too dirty and windy;
4) city planning is trashy, you don't want to walk on those streets.
two major projects, MGM and pinnacle (which was soppose to replace Sands)
casinos got cancelled, there's no way they can get millions of loans to
start. MGM and borgata are of the same owner, and now borgata is trying to
sell 50% stake.
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: 但是东岸需要一个类似vegas的大型综合性娱乐中心啊，要不然让大家都往bahama跑？
: AC需要治理，不止是在poker方面
|
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 49 那foxwoods/mohegan sun是不是有抬头的机会了？ |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 50 俺觉得恰恰相反，它们其实是一条船上的。
现在最主要的问题有2个：
1)经济非常低迷，赌博这种行业非常受伤。不过这还是好的，也许会随时间改变的情况。
2)更要命的是赌博全国化，现在各州财政都非常紧张，开赌场是最容易挣钱的毒药。以
前东北部就这么3个地方，饭还够吃，现在光俺周围，就有MD/WV/PA/DE四个州全面合法
化，这个拉走的客源太多了。南方比如FL，现在也涌现出很多poker rooms。这种大环
境下，谁还有劲头去AC，LV呢，还得加上机票，旅馆?
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: 那foxwoods/mohegan sun是不是有抬头的机会了？
|
