g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 1 play again this morning, I feel if I have 200+BB, I have more power... | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 2 靠, 这周末赢了多少?
Totally agree, like Ed Miller said, it is not the chips in the pot that scares people, it is what is left behind in your stack and what they can potentially lose. Additionally, to achieve higher win rate, deep stack play is essential. FCF will never be able to achieve 30bb/100 hand win rate playing 60bb stack. It also makes you a better poker player and learn to push your edge to the fullest. | g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 3 一点点，革命尚未成功，同志仍需努力。。。LOL
scares people, it is what is left behind in your stack and what they can
potentially lose. Additionally, to achieve higher win rate, deep stack play
is essential. FCF will never be able to achieve 30bb/100 hand win rate
playing 60bb stack. It also makes you a better poker player and learn to
push your edge to the fullest.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 靠, 这周末赢了多少?
: Totally agree, like Ed Miller said, it is not the chips in the pot that scares people, it is what is left behind in your stack and what they can potentially lose. Additionally, to achieve higher win rate, deep stack play is essential. FCF will never be able to achieve 30bb/100 hand win rate playing 60bb stack. It also makes you a better poker player and learn to push your edge to the fullest.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 goes help me!!! I am back down to 1bb/100 hand.. i need some of your mad
skillz. NL 100 is unkind to me or maybe i am just not good enough for it yet
... This win rate is pathetic...
my bank roll is not broke, but my spirit is definitely at the edge....
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: 一点点，革命尚未成功，同志仍需努力。。。LOL
:
: scares people, it is what is left behind in your stack and what they can
: potentially lose. Additionally, to achieve higher win rate, deep stack play
: is essential. FCF will never be able to achieve 30bb/100 hand win rate
: playing 60bb stack. It also makes you a better poker player and learn to
: push your edge to the fullest.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 there is a hand that really put me on tilt yesterday. I notice this guy who
just raise preflop with vpip 24/23, and super aggressive and bet 3 barrel
always. I met him a few times and folded a couple on turns.
and this hand comes up,
I have pocket 9s.
he raise mp 3$, i call LP.
flop QQ4 rainbow,
he goes 2/3 pot. I call.
turn is a 8 he goes 2/3 pot. I call.
river is a 10 he goes 2/3 pot i call.
I had a read and i was going to call down no matter what. and he shows K10o.
. speechless. i run bad. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 good, now you feel the same pain i felt at NL50, haha, such a shame when i
looked at my result for last few months, without bonus and rakeback, i
barely made any money.
well, i'd say if you're a big winner at 50NL, just play more there with
taking shots at NL100 here and there.
after all, it's a game to make money/fun, not to ruin your spirit for a day.
you can see how happy i was crushing $0.8 satellites and 3.3SNGs on the
side, haha.
yet
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: goes help me!!! I am back down to 1bb/100 hand.. i need some of your mad
: skillz. NL 100 is unkind to me or maybe i am just not good enough for it yet
: ... This win rate is pathetic...
: my bank roll is not broke, but my spirit is definitely at the edge....
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 7 To this kind of player, I am not afaid of 3 bet back a LOT before flop, or
check raise a LOT on the flop. In this case, I will 3 bet $12-15 here and
pot the flop if I see ok borad(QQx is not just ok, but perfect). I want him know
that I don't care loos my stake if he wants to bully me. And more
importantly, your 99 is favour to this 24/23 stats in most of situations(>75
%). how offten do we get 99+ hand and he opens 24% of his hands! Dont just
call, if you keep calling, you lose control, you don
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: there is a hand that really put me on tilt yesterday. I notice this guy who
: just raise preflop with vpip 24/23, and super aggressive and bet 3 barrel
: always. I met him a few times and folded a couple on turns.
: and this hand comes up,
: I have pocket 9s.
: he raise mp 3$, i call LP.
: flop QQ4 rainbow,
: he goes 2/3 pot. I call.
: turn is a 8 he goes 2/3 pot. I call.
: river is a 10 he goes 2/3 pot i call.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 3 bet pre maybe.
but after flop i actually like calling it down more than raising. if I raise
flop on a paired board, he knows there is a lot of bluff from me. He spazz
shove which is not unlikely, i am screwed. There is no way i can call this even
if i know he has some bluff range in there. He calls i am facing top of his range. He is 3 barrel this no matter
what river is. The amount i win or lose is pretty much fixed and he has <15%
chance after turn.. Only this time, the chip fell on his | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 I am not done yet. I am doing a few adjustment right now.
I had 1.6% of 3 bet rate at NL50. I would like to increase it to >3%, i am at more than 2% now. I have added a lot of squeezing to my game when it is multiple people in the pot preflop.
I have flop c bet rate of 75% and turn c bet rate of 35%. I am trying to
adjust it to a more banlanced rate. maybe 65% flop c bet 45% turn c bet.
I have 2.2 overall aggressive rate now at NL100 which is already higher than what I have at NL50. I would rea
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: good, now you feel the same pain i felt at NL50, haha, such a shame when i
: looked at my result for last few months, without bonus and rakeback, i
: barely made any money.
: well, i'd say if you're a big winner at 50NL, just play more there with
: taking shots at NL100 here and there.
: after all, it's a game to make money/fun, not to ruin your spirit for a day.
: you can see how happy i was crushing $0.8 satellites and 3.3SNGs on the
: side, haha.
:
: yet
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 10 The more cards you see, the weaker hand you have --99, especailly over cards
. his stats is 25% not 100 any way, so you put him on any pare, any SC, any
high cards. if you let him go to river, you winning chance is not that great.
If he does not bet on river, are you going to bet on river to get more value
? I guess you wont. you lose value no matter what. He has the control to
fire the third bullet and you are just waiting there and hope he does fire
third bluff bullet or check on the river. if
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: To this kind of player, I am not afaid of 3 bet back a LOT before flop, or
: check raise a LOT on the flop. In this case, I will 3 bet $12-15 here and
: pot the flop if I see ok borad(QQx is not just ok, but perfect). I want him know
: that I don't care loos my stake if he wants to bully me. And more
: importantly, your 99 is favour to this 24/23 stats in most of situations(>75
: %). how offten do we get 99+ hand and he opens 24% of his hands! Dont just
: call, if you keep calling, you lose control, you don
| | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 after that rush bonus week climax, i still don't see more players are
getting into this game on a regular basis. i checked the regular tables,
only a few who i have notes on (from previous play loooong time ago). so it
looks to me the rush player pool is not growing much at all.
maybe you can try regular 100NL for a change.
at more than 2% now. I have added a lot of squeezing to my game when it is
multiple people in the pot preflop.
than what I have at NL50. I would really like to increase it
h
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I am not done yet. I am doing a few adjustment right now.
: I had 1.6% of 3 bet rate at NL50. I would like to increase it to >3%, i am at more than 2% now. I have added a lot of squeezing to my game when it is multiple people in the pot preflop.
: I have flop c bet rate of 75% and turn c bet rate of 35%. I am trying to
: adjust it to a more banlanced rate. maybe 65% flop c bet 45% turn c bet.
: I have 2.2 overall aggressive rate now at NL100 which is already higher than what I have at NL50. I would rea
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 I can't play more than 2 windows effectively. I play rush mainly for the
volumn. Regular table is too slow for me certainly. I do agree with you
that rush is getting more more close to regular game with hud around. So the
sheer volumn itself is nice. Even though my win rate has not been good
lately, I think I still have potential.
I just need to improve my game further. 打牌就是逆水行舟， 你不进步，就被别
人超过.
But I still believe not many people have significant edge over me at NL100, but the 1bb/100 hand win
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: after that rush bonus week climax, i still don't see more players are
: getting into this game on a regular basis. i checked the regular tables,
: only a few who i have notes on (from previous play loooong time ago). so it
: looks to me the rush player pool is not growing much at all.
: maybe you can try regular 100NL for a change.
:
: at more than 2% now. I have added a lot of squeezing to my game when it is
: multiple people in the pot preflop.
: than what I have at NL50. I would really like to increase it
: h
| D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 13 i also think for this particular hand, cold calling 3 streets
is asking for trouble.
cards
any
great.
value
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: The more cards you see, the weaker hand you have --99, especailly over cards
: . his stats is 25% not 100 any way, so you put him on any pare, any SC, any
: high cards. if you let him go to river, you winning chance is not that great.
: If he does not bet on river, are you going to bet on river to get more value
: ? I guess you wont. you lose value no matter what. He has the control to
: fire the third bullet and you are just waiting there and hope he does fire
: third bluff bullet or check on the river. if
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 here is why I called down instead of raising. K10 is at least at middle of his strength. In
fact I think it is above average hand strength for this guy. He could have a
Q which have us crushed or he can have small pocket pairs which we have him
crushed. assume we know that he is firing 3 barrel with his hand. I am
pretty certain of that. If you see his stats, you will feel the same too.
He is one of kind.
so
3.5$ raise preflop pot 8.5$
flop bets 6$ pot 20$
turn bets 13$ pot 46$
rive | D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 15 That is good analysis for the flop calling,
but since turn give you a perfect card, i think it would be against Poker
God by not raising at turn...
of his strength. In
a
him
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: here is why I called down instead of raising. K10 is at least at middle of his strength. In
: fact I think it is above average hand strength for this guy. He could have a
: Q which have us crushed or he can have small pocket pairs which we have him
: crushed. assume we know that he is firing 3 barrel with his hand. I am
: pretty certain of that. If you see his stats, you will feel the same too.
: He is one of kind.
: so
: 3.5$ raise preflop pot 8.5$
: flop bets 6$ pot 20$
: turn bets 13$ pot 46$
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 16 Turn is even better for calling instead of raising for exactly the same
reason except that it will yield even better ev because most of his hand are drawing more dead like K10.. only 6 outs 12%
【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: That is good analysis for the flop calling,
: but since turn give you a perfect card, i think it would be against Poker
: God by not raising at turn...
:
: of his strength. In
: a
: him
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 17 you made 2 assumptions but may not be good assumptions.
1. He will bet 3 streets to river no matter what. If this assumption is
indeed true, then yes, calling down to river is a ok play. however I would
say about 40% at the most. If you add this 40% and re-do calculation again,
calling down to river may not be a good play.
2. You will fold to 4 bet on the flop. why? if you decide to cold call to
river no matter what why not shove all in here? You have to believe you have
better hand here, other
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: here is why I called down instead of raising. K10 is at least at middle of his strength. In
: fact I think it is above average hand strength for this guy. He could have a
: Q which have us crushed or he can have small pocket pairs which we have him
: crushed. assume we know that he is firing 3 barrel with his hand. I am
: pretty certain of that. If you see his stats, you will feel the same too.
: He is one of kind.
: so
: 3.5$ raise preflop pot 8.5$
: flop bets 6$ pot 20$
: turn bets 13$ pot 46$
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 18 4 bet all in flop. you will be playing against top of his range for stacks.
unless he is never folding anything that you beat, this is very bad. if you call down, my calculation include all of his hand range. but if you ever raise, his range will be a lot more tight, because you fold out all the hand you beat pretty much. and if he 3 bets, you are probably behind already. even if he is only half of the time ahead, it is still very bad for you. You only break even over long run.
And yes he will
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: you made 2 assumptions but may not be good assumptions.
: 1. He will bet 3 streets to river no matter what. If this assumption is
: indeed true, then yes, calling down to river is a ok play. however I would
: say about 40% at the most. If you add this 40% and re-do calculation again,
: calling down to river may not be a good play.
: 2. You will fold to 4 bet on the flop. why? if you decide to cold call to
: river no matter what why not shove all in here? You have to believe you have
: better hand here, other
| L****n
发帖数: 490 | 19 Trap with a medium hand is asking for trouble. In this case, the flop is
already great for you. What if the flop has A J x, would you call down 3
streets? or K 5 3?
Once I trap with AA, the guy in LP who 3 bet me with 14% 3 bet percentage
and very high aggression. I just smooth called his preflop 3 bet raise, flop
, turn and river bet. End up losing my whole stack when his 10 2 off suit made
two pairs on the turn.
If you decide to trap, you just have to take the risk of being outdraw. If
you th | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 打牌最难的就是从个别牌例看出一种打法的true ev. we will never be able to
estimate the true ev, we can only try to estimate it with our best judgment.
Sometimes it is accurate and sometimes it is not. Calling down a medium
pocket pair is definitely not something I would recommend to do most of the
time. This is just a special case. Goes is absolutely correct that most of
people will not 3 barrel cold bluff. If he will not 3 barrel but only 2
barrel bluff then my ev will take a huge hit certainly. This quickly b
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: Trap with a medium hand is asking for trouble. In this case, the flop is
: already great for you. What if the flop has A J x, would you call down 3
: streets? or K 5 3?
: Once I trap with AA, the guy in LP who 3 bet me with 14% 3 bet percentage
: and very high aggression. I just smooth called his preflop 3 bet raise, flop
: , turn and river bet. End up losing my whole stack when his 10 2 off suit made
: two pairs on the turn.
: If you decide to trap, you just have to take the risk of being outdraw. If
: you th
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