t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 1 自2月20账户清零，deposit $150开打， 严格执行bank roll， 今天统计了一下，rake
back竟然占了18%！
自从读了老大推荐的书， 学习了fcf大侠的经验之谈， 发现自己现在稳定的近乎sick
，每天严格控制， 输了3个buy in就停手或者降级打， 减少variance。
希望能稳定获利bank roll到达$3000， 然后升级NL200。 | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 lol, you should read the book crystalszero suggested too, The Poker
Blueprint (pdf).
you're the typical player the book author recommends, move up fast or give
up. i wish i could do that, but as the author calls, i'm the other type, who
gets older and cares much about losses (less gambling tendency).
as for rakeback, yes, many grinders live on it. as we may only have a small
edge at the stake we play, this becomes critical. if you break even for a
year, you'll see how rakeback adds up to be your
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 自2月20账户清零，deposit $150开打， 严格执行bank roll， 今天统计了一下，rake
: back竟然占了18%！
: 自从读了老大推荐的书， 学习了fcf大侠的经验之谈， 发现自己现在稳定的近乎sick
: ，每天严格控制， 输了3个buy in就停手或者降级打， 减少variance。
: 希望能稳定获利bank roll到达$3000， 然后升级NL200。
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 3 3000 就去打200NL? orz,你太牛了
rake
sick
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 自2月20账户清零，deposit $150开打， 严格执行bank roll， 今天统计了一下，rake
: back竟然占了18%！
: 自从读了老大推荐的书， 学习了fcf大侠的经验之谈， 发现自己现在稳定的近乎sick
: ，每天严格控制， 输了3个buy in就停手或者降级打， 减少variance。
: 希望能稳定获利bank roll到达$3000， 然后升级NL200。
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 这还是QUOTE:"严格执行bank roll"的。赫赫。。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 3000 就去打200NL? orz,你太牛了
:
: rake
: sick
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 I am clearly "the other type".. I am such a loser...
who
small
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: lol, you should read the book crystalszero suggested too, The Poker
: Blueprint (pdf).
: you're the typical player the book author recommends, move up fast or give
: up. i wish i could do that, but as the author calls, i'm the other type, who
: gets older and cares much about losses (less gambling tendency).
: as for rakeback, yes, many grinders live on it. as we may only have a small
: edge at the stake we play, this becomes critical. if you break even for a
: year, you'll see how rakeback adds up to be your
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 6 我3000打100NL,我都觉得自己是under roll了,如果输到2000我马上会去打50,
越是高的level,bank roll要越大,因为里面人太crazy,玩whole stack不当回事儿的
我觉得有10000玩200NL勉强差不多
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这还是QUOTE:"严格执行bank roll"的。赫赫。。
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 i used to believe so, but after reading this new book, the poker blueprint,
i'm kind of changing my mind now (doesn't mean i'll do it, as a weak tight
guy, hehe).
the traditional rule is having 100 buy-ins for the level you play, although
some pros say 50 is fine, as dusty says in his book.
but the author of blueprint confesses he's way underrolled when he moved up.
and many pros he knows did the same thing. the con part is that he admits
it's stupid, because it's very likely you'd lose all. but
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 我3000打100NL,我都觉得自己是under roll了,如果输到2000我马上会去打50,
: 越是高的level,bank roll要越大,因为里面人太crazy,玩whole stack不当回事儿的
: 我觉得有10000玩200NL勉强差不多
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 8 我以前都是存$120就开搞NL400的， 到了$2000就开搞NL1000的， 不堪回首啊。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这还是QUOTE:"严格执行bank roll"的。赫赫。。
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 9 希望月底能到3000
看过2+2上面一片文章， 是按技术层次来升级的， 大概10-12个buyin就可以试水, 觉
得有道理。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 3000 就去打200NL? orz,你太牛了
:
: rake
: sick
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 10 自从开始bankroll管理, 然后每天11点准时睡觉， 觉得生活充满了希望， 呵呵。
这个月到目前为止rake back已经有了$396, rush poker真是个好东东。
who
small
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: lol, you should read the book crystalszero suggested too, The Poker
: Blueprint (pdf).
: you're the typical player the book author recommends, move up fast or give
: up. i wish i could do that, but as the author calls, i'm the other type, who
: gets older and cares much about losses (less gambling tendency).
: as for rakeback, yes, many grinders live on it. as we may only have a small
: edge at the stake we play, this becomes critical. if you break even for a
: year, you'll see how rakeback adds up to be your
| | | t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 11 我试水的时候都是带min buyin的， 如果我试水NL200，我到时候估计带40 buyin搞三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
其实现在偶尔也玩NL200，用SS strategy， 只玩AA/KK/AK/99+，基本上也没啥大问题。
,
although
up.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i used to believe so, but after reading this new book, the poker blueprint,
: i'm kind of changing my mind now (doesn't mean i'll do it, as a weak tight
: guy, hehe).
: the traditional rule is having 100 buy-ins for the level you play, although
: some pros say 50 is fine, as dusty says in his book.
: but the author of blueprint confesses he's way underrolled when he moved up.
: and many pros he knows did the same thing. the con part is that he admits
: it's stupid, because it's very likely you'd lose all. but
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 12 老哈的第一本还没看完， 前面很有用， 后面好像牌列太多了一点， 开始没劲起来。
等完成了他的书再看其他的吧。
你推荐的dusty的书， 知道我最大的收获是什么吗？ 是dusty说他因为on tilt摔过鼠
标电脑， 看到那， 我才发觉我实际上emotion control原来不是那么差， 至少比他好
多了， 于是信心大增, 哈哈哈
who
small
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: lol, you should read the book crystalszero suggested too, The Poker
: Blueprint (pdf).
: you're the typical player the book author recommends, move up fast or give
: up. i wish i could do that, but as the author calls, i'm the other type, who
: gets older and cares much about losses (less gambling tendency).
: as for rakeback, yes, many grinders live on it. as we may only have a small
: edge at the stake we play, this becomes critical. if you break even for a
: year, you'll see how rakeback adds up to be your
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 13 我觉得你理论知识挺牢靠的， 跳级试试NL50？ 就当学费了。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I am clearly "the other type".. I am such a loser...
:
: who
: small
| c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 14 come on, u have a good job. it's ok to take shot
who
small | c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 15 现在FTP的min buyin是35bb，难道你玩的是SS桌？
三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
题。
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 我试水的时候都是带min buyin的， 如果我试水NL200，我到时候估计带40 buyin搞三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
: 其实现在偶尔也玩NL200，用SS strategy， 只玩AA/KK/AK/99+，基本上也没啥大问题。
:
: ,
: although
: up.
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 16 rush poker
【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: 现在FTP的min buyin是35bb，难道你玩的是SS桌？
:
: 三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
: 题。
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 17 哦, 你都是玩short stack,那基本就是preflop的战痘了
三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
题。
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 我试水的时候都是带min buyin的， 如果我试水NL200，我到时候估计带40 buyin搞三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
: 其实现在偶尔也玩NL200，用SS strategy， 只玩AA/KK/AK/99+，基本上也没啥大问题。
:
: ,
: although
: up.
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 18 hoho,在我bankroll不到的情况下，试水当然谨慎好了， 每次搞full buyin，
variance 就够搞垮我了。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 哦, 你都是玩short stack,那基本就是preflop的战痘了
:
: 三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
: 题。
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 19 嗯,如果你每次mini buyin,那你3000相当于75个buyin,那是足够了
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: hoho,在我bankroll不到的情况下，试水当然谨慎好了， 每次搞full buyin，
: variance 就够搞垮我了。
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 感觉thirtystand plays SSS over all. | | | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 21 I am still learning a lot for cash game. Most of my earning was from sngs.
After 40k hand NL 10 and 2 season of HSP video. I feel I am doing much
better now. For the past week I have been crushing NL 10s for the first
time.. I did ok at NL 25 for 5k hand was up 2bb /100 2 month ago. I am
probably more weak tight than fryking. I am happy with 300$ per month
earning and don't want to lose.. lol.. I should be doing NL 25 regularly soon since I
feel i have improved a lot recently and hope to cr
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得你理论知识挺牢靠的， 跳级试试NL50？ 就当学费了。
| c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 22 这个说的很在理. 这样学的快多了. 学费交了才学的快, 记的牢. 尽快找到属于自己的
层次, 玩起来才有趣,有成就感啊. 跟驴子门长期较什么劲? 人生有涯啊.
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得你理论知识挺牢靠的， 跳级试试NL50？ 就当学费了。
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 23 老实说 NL25 NL 10 没多大区别,我都玩了. NL50听上去也很多donk. My feeling is
that there are all type of players in all 3 level. maybe the % is slightly
different. If you want to truly test yourself, you probably have to go to NL
200 where most of people are not donk. But not everyone want to lose those
kind of $$.
if you are a thinking player, you can improve as much in NL 10 as NL 50 if
not more. Because you can call down a lot of bets and see showdown and check
out your reads. If you don't think and only look at
【在 c**********l 的大作中提到】
: 这个说的很在理. 这样学的快多了. 学费交了才学的快, 记的牢. 尽快找到属于自己的
: 层次, 玩起来才有趣,有成就感啊. 跟驴子门长期较什么劲? 人生有涯啊.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 俺有个定位的问题，不掩饰的说，现在玩扑克主要是为了钱。但是老在这些低级别上徘
徊，其实时间收益很低。
俺比较欣赏thirtystand，他属于那种有希望能突破的，就算头破血流，其实最后算下
来，咱们的这点输赢区别根本可以忽略不计，赢几千睡得香点，输几千其实也不耽误啥
，倒是搭进去的时间可惜了。
NL
those
check
you
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 老实说 NL25 NL 10 没多大区别,我都玩了. NL50听上去也很多donk. My feeling is
: that there are all type of players in all 3 level. maybe the % is slightly
: different. If you want to truly test yourself, you probably have to go to NL
: 200 where most of people are not donk. But not everyone want to lose those
: kind of $$.
: if you are a thinking player, you can improve as much in NL 10 as NL 50 if
: not more. Because you can call down a lot of bets and see showdown and check
: out your reads. If you don't think and only look at
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 25 主要感觉自几还能提高. 没必要撞个头破流. Actually i never felt I was winning
in cash game until recently. I started in cash, never had a breakthrough.
then turn to sngs. I leveled up in sng from 1$ to 5$ buy in and was able to
win consistently. My plan was to level up to 10$. Then this rush game
totally side tracked me. I started play it for ironman and bonuses and
could only break even. Only until recently, I have major understanding of
the cash game.
主要我的赌性不强啊. last time i actually had an argument with some | p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 26 even greatest pro admit poker is gambling, lol, I guess you are better than
them
winning
.
to
that
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 主要感觉自几还能提高. 没必要撞个头破流. Actually i never felt I was winning
: in cash game until recently. I started in cash, never had a breakthrough.
: then turn to sngs. I leveled up in sng from 1$ to 5$ buy in and was able to
: win consistently. My plan was to level up to 10$. Then this rush game
: totally side tracked me. I started play it for ironman and bonuses and
: could only break even. Only until recently, I have major understanding of
: the cash game.
: 主要我的赌性不强啊. last time i actually had an argument with some
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 27 You have to gamble in poker sometimes. Top pros are human. human like to
gamble as a species. daniel negreanu, call all in with top pair A kicker
when he reads his opponents has bottom two pair. He is gambling. Sammi
Fetha, all in A 8 short stack when someone reraised him with pocket Qs, he
is gambling. they choose to gamble sometimes.
other times you were put in such situation in playing. When you have a flush
draw with short stack but lead bet at flop and was raised all in. You know
you are
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: even greatest pro admit poker is gambling, lol, I guess you are better than
: them
:
: winning
: .
: to
: that
| c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 28 +EV or -EV you are gambling. you choose to gamble in +EV situations so that
you make (sklansky) bucks; you choose to gable in -EV situations for some
other reasons than making money (curiosity, tilt, adrenal impulse) |
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