g***e
发帖数: 577 | 1 主持人最后一个问题不能免俗：如果所有的top Player 都在自己的Top form 谁赢？
在一系列官话之后，Nick Bollettieri 说出了真实看法：Djokovic is the only
player he ever saw who has no weakness.
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n*********e
发帖数: 25274 | |
n*********e
发帖数: 25274 | 3 老德近几年，破发点拿下的几率越来越低，这是个大问题，还有网前球还没有达到登峰
造极的程度，对手打出的档球/背身球/羞辱球穿越，基本百分之百目送其成功。。。 |
g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 4 没有weakness和best是两回事。这不是挂羊头卖狗肉么？
【在 g***e 的大作中提到】
: 主持人最后一个问题不能免俗：如果所有的top Player 都在自己的Top form 谁赢？
: 在一系列官话之后，Nick Bollettieri 说出了真实看法：Djokovic is the only
: player he ever saw who has no weakness.
: 此话我赞同!
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 5 话是这么说， 不过换一个方式来问，
if your life depends on it, which player would you rather to play for you?
I would pick Novak Djokovic.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 没有weakness和best是两回事。这不是挂羊头卖狗肉么？
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l********e
发帖数: 3999 | 6 要看对手是谁
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 话是这么说， 不过换一个方式来问，
: if your life depends on it, which player would you rather to play for you?
: I would pick Novak Djokovic.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 7 you don't know who your opponents are....
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】
: 要看对手是谁
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W**T
发帖数: 221 | 8
That is BS -- I would pick Federer in 2006, good luck for your life if you
pick joker in 2006... the point is， 别太把关公战秦琼式的斗嘴当回事儿。。。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 话是这么说， 不过换一个方式来问，
: if your life depends on it, which player would you rather to play for you?
: I would pick Novak Djokovic.
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l********e
发帖数: 3999 | 9 那场地总知道吧，如果草场、硬地，我选老费，如果土场，我选纳豆。 ：）
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: you don't know who your opponents are....
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 10 totally disaglee.
Put him in 45C and try try.
【在 g***e 的大作中提到】
: 主持人最后一个问题不能免俗：如果所有的top Player 都在自己的Top form 谁赢？
: 在一系列官话之后，Nick Bollettieri 说出了真实看法：Djokovic is the only
: player he ever saw who has no weakness.
: 此话我赞同!
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 11 2006 Federer with his Wilson nSix-One Tour 90 or the current RF97?
关公战秦琼到底谁更强的确没得争论， 但要说如果真让两人以自己时代的装备来比武
， 那我会赌秦琼。 不知道那里看到说马镫到了南北朝时才出现， 高桥马鞍在三国时
期可能也没有， 在这种条件下， 真正的青龙偃月刀，方天画戟一定和说书中的完全不一
样。 那么长那么重的大刀，在没有马鞍马蹬的情况下， 就这么一劈，人肯定自个儿就
摔下马了。 :)
【在 W**T 的大作中提到】
:
: That is BS -- I would pick Federer in 2006, good luck for your life if you
: pick joker in 2006... the point is， 别太把关公战秦琼式的斗嘴当回事儿。。。
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 12 and if it's AO you'll pick Joker? :)
what if you have no idea about the surface, no idea on how many matches will
be played, no idea who the opponents are....?
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】
: 那场地总知道吧，如果草场、硬地，我选老费，如果土场，我选纳豆。 ：）
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 13 Navratilova, 86-1 in 1983, my survival rate is 98.8%, :)
will
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: and if it's AO you'll pick Joker? :)
: what if you have no idea about the surface, no idea on how many matches will
: be played, no idea who the opponents are....?
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 14 so you pick her to save your life.... well, good luck, I'll be attending
your funeral. :)
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Navratilova, 86-1 in 1983, my survival rate is 98.8%, :)
:
: will
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 15 Yes. I'll pick based on the average results of all possible
courts and all possible players under similar rules (e.g.,
best of 3 or 5 or so on).
I will not pick based on how good the weakest part of a player is.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Navratilova, 86-1 in 1983, my survival rate is 98.8%, :)
:
: will
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 16 If men and women play together, then I pick 1984 McEnroe,
84-3.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: so you pick her to save your life.... well, good luck, I'll be attending
: your funeral. :)
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 17 I agree she might not be that good with new technologies or so on.
But Federer's peak is not that far away.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: so you pick her to save your life.... well, good luck, I'll be attending
: your funeral. :)
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 18 差了一下， 高桥马鞍在三国时已经出现了， 最早出现是在匈奴
不一
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 2006 Federer with his Wilson nSix-One Tour 90 or the current RF97?
: 关公战秦琼到底谁更强的确没得争论， 但要说如果真让两人以自己时代的装备来比武
: ， 那我会赌秦琼。 不知道那里看到说马镫到了南北朝时才出现， 高桥马鞍在三国时
: 期可能也没有， 在这种条件下， 真正的青龙偃月刀，方天画戟一定和说书中的完全不一
: 样。 那么长那么重的大刀，在没有马鞍马蹬的情况下， 就这么一劈，人肯定自个儿就
: 摔下马了。 :)
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 19 I doubt McEnroe can survive now with serve & volley
against current players and racket and string.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: If men and women play together, then I pick 1984 McEnroe,
: 84-3.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 20 那你准备pick关公么？
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 差了一下， 高桥马鞍在三国时已经出现了， 最早出现是在匈奴
:
: 不一
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 21 No, the point is you don't know which year the matches will be held.
It's equally likely in 1968 as in 2015. Joker will retire
immediately after transferring to 1968...
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: I agree she might not be that good with new technologies or so on.
: But Federer's peak is not that far away.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 22 same thing with joker using a wood racket against s&v players.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: I doubt McEnroe can survive now with serve & volley
: against current players and racket and string.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 23 how many times do you want to die.... lol
Serve and Volley players are almost extinct now... no way he can survive
today's game. Just in terms of physical fitness level, it's night and day
difference between today's vs 80s...
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: If men and women play together, then I pick 1984 McEnroe,
: 84-3.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 24 lol 关老爷没有马蹬， 所以我还是pick 秦琼。 :)
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 那你准备pick关公么？
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 25 Let's get the question straight: you don't know what surface,
you don't know what year/equipment, your don't know what opponent,
you don't know what match format.
You only know it's a bunch of best players at their peak.
McEnroe has used a variety of rackets throughout his career.
He is much more adaptive than, say, Borg.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: how many times do you want to die.... lol
: Serve and Volley players are almost extinct now... no way he can survive
: today's game. Just in terms of physical fitness level, it's night and day
: difference between today's vs 80s...
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 26 that's true... I do think Federer is way a head of his time during his early
careers... I didn't pick the 2006 Federer, not because I don't think he may
be the best, but because he does have a clear weakness. :)
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: I agree she might not be that good with new technologies or so on.
: But Federer's peak is not that far away.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 27 yea, you only know the player at his/her pick with the equipment he used at
that time...
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Let's get the question straight: you don't know what surface,
: you don't know what year/equipment, your don't know what opponent,
: you don't know what match format.
: You only know it's a bunch of best players at their peak.
: McEnroe has used a variety of rackets throughout his career.
: He is much more adaptive than, say, Borg.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 28 That's a unfair or silly format of match. The newer players will
win not because of the skills. You pretty much already know who
will win.
at
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: yea, you only know the player at his/her pick with the equipment he used at
: that time...
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 29 sure you can say its unfair, but I don't think it's fair to make
hypothetical scenario such as Novak using wood racquet, john mac using
modern racquet with poly string etc....
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: That's a unfair or silly format of match. The newer players will
: win not because of the skills. You pretty much already know who
: will win.
:
: at
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 30 No, I said the year is unknown. If 1980 McEnroe wins. If 2011
Joker wins. Fair in that sense.
McEnroe has better coverage over equipments than some other top
players.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: sure you can say its unfair, but I don't think it's fair to make
: hypothetical scenario such as Novak using wood racquet, john mac using
: modern racquet with poly string etc....
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 31 FT! I thought the match will be right now. Not in the past.
Otherwise, I have to pick the one that lived the longest.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: No, the point is you don't know which year the matches will be held.
: It's equally likely in 1968 as in 2015. Joker will retire
: immediately after transferring to 1968...
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 32 that's true...
把马蹬除去， 秦叔宝骑马可能都成问题。 :)
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: No, I said the year is unknown. If 1980 McEnroe wins. If 2011
: Joker wins. Fair in that sense.
: McEnroe has better coverage over equipments than some other top
: players.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 33 Why is that? Connors lives the longest, but I don't see him
winning this...
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: FT! I thought the match will be right now. Not in the past.
: Otherwise, I have to pick the one that lived the longest.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 34 But he has the lowest risk of default due to not-being born.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Why is that? Connors lives the longest, but I don't see him
: winning this...
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 35 Call for logic. To have a tournament like this, the requirement
is a time machine. Everyone is at peak!
Time travel in the Terminator style (all naked).
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: But he has the lowest risk of default due to not-being born.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 36 If we don't want to imaging 关公战秦琼，the fair way might be:
You pick a player. Then, only check the given year, matches
played by the picked player, randomly pick one match. If the
picked player loses in that match, you die. If he wins, you live.
In this way, there is no imaginary things. Only the facts.
Then, I think your pick on Navratilova is a very good one.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: No, I said the year is unknown. If 1980 McEnroe wins. If 2011
: Joker wins. Fair in that sense.
: McEnroe has better coverage over equipments than some other top
: players.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 37 If we allow time travel, there is no fairness to it already.
Why bother to go naked.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Call for logic. To have a tournament like this, the requirement
: is a time machine. Everyone is at peak!
: Time travel in the Terminator style (all naked).
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 38 Why no fairness? You don't know which year u r traveling to.
Naked --> no rackets, shoes, clothes.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: If we allow time travel, there is no fairness to it already.
: Why bother to go naked.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 39 if that's the case, I'll pick the 2006 Fed... Fed got the tennis genes, with
his instinct, sense, touch, etc.... I'm sure he won't have much issue
winning with a wood racquet in a 3 out of 5 match.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Why no fairness? You don't know which year u r traveling to.
: Naked --> no rackets, shoes, clothes.
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b******n
发帖数: 1629 | 40 I will pick nadal in us open of 2010
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 话是这么说， 不过换一个方式来问，
: if your life depends on it, which player would you rather to play for you?
: I would pick Novak Djokovic.
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h**********e
发帖数: 4328 | 41 这个好
不过还要看给球员多长时间适应当时的球拍
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Why no fairness? You don't know which year u r traveling to.
: Naked --> no rackets, shoes, clothes.
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k**f
发帖数: 1137 | 42 Life is precious. Don't toy with it.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 话是这么说， 不过换一个方式来问，
: if your life depends on it, which player would you rather to play for you?
: I would pick Novak Djokovic.
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a***8
发帖数: 2433 | 43 还是要回到原问题 - 如果所有的top Player 都在自己的Top form 谁赢？
红土 - 纳豆 九法网，无悬念
草地 - 费费=纳豆>老桑>小德 费纳温网巅峰对决互有胜负，嫩费小胜老桑，小德的上
网在草地上，呵呵
硬地 - 费费 美网五连冠 无悬念
【在 g***e 的大作中提到】
: 主持人最后一个问题不能免俗：如果所有的top Player 都在自己的Top form 谁赢？
: 在一系列官话之后，Nick Bollettieri 说出了真实看法：Djokovic is the only
: player he ever saw who has no weakness.
: 此话我赞同!
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l********e
发帖数: 3999 | 44 草地纳豆=老费>老桑，晕了。。
【在 a***8 的大作中提到】
: 还是要回到原问题 - 如果所有的top Player 都在自己的Top form 谁赢？
: 红土 - 纳豆 九法网，无悬念
: 草地 - 费费=纳豆>老桑>小德 费纳温网巅峰对决互有胜负，嫩费小胜老桑，小德的上
: 网在草地上，呵呵
: 硬地 - 费费 美网五连冠 无悬念
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a***8
发帖数: 2433 | 45 在温网费纳的几次决战可以说是他俩都在自己的“TOP FORM",费开始胜，纳后来胜，源
于他俩绝对PEAK的一点时间差，但总体上水平相当，打满5盘还要打长盘也说明了这一
点。老桑也很强，但考虑他的技术老了一代，所以纯TOP FORM还是稍逊，因为网球毕竟
在发展。记住只比TOP FORM。
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】
: 草地纳豆=老费>老桑，晕了。。
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