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Tennis版 - 奔双打两个 set
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w*****e
发帖数: 309
1
http://youtu.be/8QdQO9KqzeA
白衣是我,我同伙是wz123。欢迎使劲拍。
对面两个朋友不上网版,请轻拍,我会转拍。
除了我的三个都是本地3。5强队的主力,今年打入了季后赛。本人是另外一个队的主力
炮灰。
另,编辑set 太费劲了这是第一次搞了3个多小时。有什么捷径么?
再另,两个小时真正在打就20分钟,双打运动量还是不够啊!
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
2
脚误?

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/8QdQO9KqzeA
: 白衣是我,我同伙是wz123。欢迎使劲拍。
: 对面两个朋友不上网版,请轻拍,我会转拍。
: 除了我的三个都是本地3。5强队的主力,今年打入了季后赛。本人是另外一个队的主力
: 炮灰。
: 另,编辑set 太费劲了这是第一次搞了3个多小时。有什么捷径么?
: 再另,两个小时真正在打就20分钟,双打运动量还是不够啊!

a*m
发帖数: 6253
3
环境很好,蝉鸣阵阵。。。
W***3
发帖数: 74
4
脚误的问题,我仍然正改.谢谢!
n**u
发帖数: 768
5
除了发球前要刷两下的那位,发球都是刚刚地。 SLICE SERVE 噌噌往外转。 白衣动作
很赞。 显然为录像做好准备。 哈哈。

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/8QdQO9KqzeA
: 白衣是我,我同伙是wz123。欢迎使劲拍。
: 对面两个朋友不上网版,请轻拍,我会转拍。
: 除了我的三个都是本地3。5强队的主力,今年打入了季后赛。本人是另外一个队的主力
: 炮灰。
: 另,编辑set 太费劲了这是第一次搞了3个多小时。有什么捷径么?
: 再另,两个小时真正在打就20分钟,双打运动量还是不够啊!

w*****e
发帖数: 309
6
His first serve is 刚刚地 too, most of the time. You might have been fooled
by his 2nd serve.
Thanks for the compliment. I prepared 3 years for this day lol

【在 n**u 的大作中提到】
: 除了发球前要刷两下的那位,发球都是刚刚地。 SLICE SERVE 噌噌往外转。 白衣动作
: 很赞。 显然为录像做好准备。 哈哈。

a**s
发帖数: 9606
7
先顶后看

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/8QdQO9KqzeA
: 白衣是我,我同伙是wz123。欢迎使劲拍。
: 对面两个朋友不上网版,请轻拍,我会转拍。
: 除了我的三个都是本地3。5强队的主力,今年打入了季后赛。本人是另外一个队的主力
: 炮灰。
: 另,编辑set 太费劲了这是第一次搞了3个多小时。有什么捷径么?
: 再另,两个小时真正在打就20分钟,双打运动量还是不够啊!

W***3
发帖数: 74
8
谢谢!我们奔有两个目的.
1.我们希望高手指点.特别blacklodoss的意见.
2.我想证明我不是来吵架的.上次没做错什么,被送到黑屋子
w*****e
发帖数: 309
9
don't be so serious. Don't you know how many were sent to 黑屋子?
There were more guys(at least more posting power) inside than outside...

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢!我们奔有两个目的.
: 1.我们希望高手指点.特别blacklodoss的意见.
: 2.我想证明我不是来吵架的.上次没做错什么,被送到黑屋子

b*********s
发帖数: 6757
10
a lot work today... :(
I'll try to take a better look this weekend (remind me if I don't reply by
next Monday)

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢!我们奔有两个目的.
: 1.我们希望高手指点.特别blacklodoss的意见.
: 2.我想证明我不是来吵架的.上次没做错什么,被送到黑屋子

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b*********s
发帖数: 6757
11
wcoffee 底线上旋和drive都不错,很有攻击性. 但好像不喜欢上网,同伴发球时站在太
靠边, approach 基本是平行动,感觉只是意思意思,并没有真心想截击,有侥幸心. 建议
可以靠中间靠后站些, 这样approach时可以有forward momentum.
wz123底线随没wcoffee猛但很稳,不大mishit. 网前也很active, 更象打双打. 建议网
前少跳, 其实很多反手volley, 只要转肩都可以打到,没必要跳起来,尽量多用左手扶拍
和帮助引拍来缩小引拍,提早准备.
双打得多communicate, 底线人该喊switch, stay 等让网前人知道该站那边. 如果两人
都可以接的球, 一人该call "got it" to call the other guy off. 等发球控制好了,
网前人可以用手势来传诉发球点,自己是不是要approach, stay 还是fake.
4人都需要多用左手扶拍,引拍, 帮助平衡,gauge球. 你们左手的用处基本没用出来.要
上个level, 这个非常重要.
这是我和朋友练习时的一些warmup. 不要看我们打的球,或挥拍, 注意左手的用途.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUtf6CYY3qY

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢!我们奔有两个目的.
: 1.我们希望高手指点.特别blacklodoss的意见.
: 2.我想证明我不是来吵架的.上次没做错什么,被送到黑屋子

w*****e
发帖数: 309
12
阿黑一针见血,我单打打得多,volley 是短板。
你的建议简单明了我很喜欢下次我要站的靠后些。
谢深夜回帖!

了,

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: wcoffee 底线上旋和drive都不错,很有攻击性. 但好像不喜欢上网,同伴发球时站在太
: 靠边, approach 基本是平行动,感觉只是意思意思,并没有真心想截击,有侥幸心. 建议
: 可以靠中间靠后站些, 这样approach时可以有forward momentum.
: wz123底线随没wcoffee猛但很稳,不大mishit. 网前也很active, 更象打双打. 建议网
: 前少跳, 其实很多反手volley, 只要转肩都可以打到,没必要跳起来,尽量多用左手扶拍
: 和帮助引拍来缩小引拍,提早准备.
: 双打得多communicate, 底线人该喊switch, stay 等让网前人知道该站那边. 如果两人
: 都可以接的球, 一人该call "got it" to call the other guy off. 等发球控制好了,
: 网前人可以用手势来传诉发球点,自己是不是要approach, stay 还是fake.
: 4人都需要多用左手扶拍,引拍, 帮助平衡,gauge球. 你们左手的用处基本没用出来.要

t*********d
发帖数: 3398
13
赞黑导!

了,

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: wcoffee 底线上旋和drive都不错,很有攻击性. 但好像不喜欢上网,同伴发球时站在太
: 靠边, approach 基本是平行动,感觉只是意思意思,并没有真心想截击,有侥幸心. 建议
: 可以靠中间靠后站些, 这样approach时可以有forward momentum.
: wz123底线随没wcoffee猛但很稳,不大mishit. 网前也很active, 更象打双打. 建议网
: 前少跳, 其实很多反手volley, 只要转肩都可以打到,没必要跳起来,尽量多用左手扶拍
: 和帮助引拍来缩小引拍,提早准备.
: 双打得多communicate, 底线人该喊switch, stay 等让网前人知道该站那边. 如果两人
: 都可以接的球, 一人该call "got it" to call the other guy off. 等发球控制好了,
: 网前人可以用手势来传诉发球点,自己是不是要approach, stay 还是fake.
: 4人都需要多用左手扶拍,引拍, 帮助平衡,gauge球. 你们左手的用处基本没用出来.要

W***3
发帖数: 74
14
我没有意识到我跳的坏习惯,我会注意.
我只知道左手扶拍,引拍,是为转肩
不知道可以帮助平衡,gauge球.
若有机会,一定面谢!
w*****e
发帖数: 309
15
我也没注意到:)

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: 我没有意识到我跳的坏习惯,我会注意.
: 我只知道左手扶拍,引拍,是为转肩
: 不知道可以帮助平衡,gauge球.
: 若有机会,一定面谢!

d******e
发帖数: 2541
16
仔细看了你们这个段子。
不谈动作什么的--黑导和其他伙计们都谈了,而且我自己就是丑陋派得不讲究动作-
-实话实说,作为双打对子,你们4人还远不到3。5MID的水平,如果按这个录像
得程度,你们4人组合任何一对在我所打得两个队伍里别说上场打第三双,连第2板凳
都还排不到。真要和我目前队伍得任何一个搭档组合对打,几乎无望拿到2:6的。
双打,尤其我们这种业余得初中级阶段,讲究得是接第一拍的给自己搭档SET UP
,除非极有把握得杀球机会,永远是时刻考虑给搭档配合SET UP创造FINIS
H KILL的机会。你们得跑动补位放球LOB等SHOT SELECTION看
不出3。5+的这种战术意识和技术水平。
尤其,最大弱点和缺陷,是接发或对打中另一非接球搭档拍子常常下垂握着,双腿直立
,完全不是时刻要启动,奔跑和上网截杀得准备动作,看着完全是消遣性玩耍而已。真
要实战,不仅防守迟缓失误,甚至会有被对方击中误伤的可能。从你自己说得“双打运
动量不够”就很明显显示你们得对抗根本没有强度。你们这样得对打比赛就是打3-4
小时估计也不会抽筋,你可知道,我们这次USTA比赛,几个双打对子一个小时内就
能出现因大量失液导致肌肉抽搐痉挛的?!我就是在公园打野球玩也远比你们这里显示
得运动量和对抗强度大太多了。。。。。。。
建议你们要多和比自己水平高一点得对打,即使你们4个对打也要有实战比赛得强度和
认真态度,否则,不可能有显著提高,要想达到和超过3。5+去4。0,难度很大,
路途尚远。

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/8QdQO9KqzeA
: 白衣是我,我同伙是wz123。欢迎使劲拍。
: 对面两个朋友不上网版,请轻拍,我会转拍。
: 除了我的三个都是本地3。5强队的主力,今年打入了季后赛。本人是另外一个队的主力
: 炮灰。
: 另,编辑set 太费劲了这是第一次搞了3个多小时。有什么捷径么?
: 再另,两个小时真正在打就20分钟,双打运动量还是不够啊!

W***3
发帖数: 74
17
多谢老刀!
不同地区,美国网协评级也有所不同的.
我队有一个来自佛罗里达州的USTA 4.5,他输了所有的 3.5 比赛.
但我敢肯定,你一定打的比我好.
谢谢你指出问题,我慢慢提高.
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
18
坐等dpg不服气,lol

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: 多谢老刀!
: 不同地区,美国网协评级也有所不同的.
: 我队有一个来自佛罗里达州的USTA 4.5,他输了所有的 3.5 比赛.
: 但我敢肯定,你一定打的比我好.
: 谢谢你指出问题,我慢慢提高.

w*****e
发帖数: 309
19
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
first, 我们是在消遣性玩耍.
second, disregarding me and wz, our opponents fought their way to 3.5
district champion matches. They should be used as benchmark for 3.5+.
Dao, I understand a state champion team is much better, but you can't use
that as a benchmark for 3.5 MID. It's a math problem.

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 仔细看了你们这个段子。
: 不谈动作什么的--黑导和其他伙计们都谈了,而且我自己就是丑陋派得不讲究动作-
: -实话实说,作为双打对子,你们4人还远不到3。5MID的水平,如果按这个录像
: 得程度,你们4人组合任何一对在我所打得两个队伍里别说上场打第三双,连第2板凳
: 都还排不到。真要和我目前队伍得任何一个搭档组合对打,几乎无望拿到2:6的。
: 双打,尤其我们这种业余得初中级阶段,讲究得是接第一拍的给自己搭档SET UP
: ,除非极有把握得杀球机会,永远是时刻考虑给搭档配合SET UP创造FINIS
: H KILL的机会。你们得跑动补位放球LOB等SHOT SELECTION看
: 不出3。5+的这种战术意识和技术水平。
: 尤其,最大弱点和缺陷,是接发或对打中另一非接球搭档拍子常常下垂握着,双腿直立

U******u
发帖数: 5829
20
When I watch and evaluate IDs's game and skills on this board during naked-
ben(run show-off), I suppose the ppl are seriously play games and fights....
...
but just let you know, I almost never play for fun, or "消遣性玩耍", if I
play--with higher hand or same level, I always play very seriously and
always be in a dog-fights--I like competitive sports always, now focus on
tennis. I just don't want waste my life for 消遣性玩耍--this is just
personality and personal value, nothing wrong when you said you guys play
for消遣性玩耍.......
OK, if as you said that it's "我们是在消遣性玩耍", then all I said are trash
,and non-sense for evaluating a game skill, because it means nothing rather
for entertainment and for fun, then you guys needn't be mad and just ignore
what I said.
I wish to watch you guys seriously playing game for ppl here to evaluate or
appreciate later on.


【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
: first, 我们是在消遣性玩耍.
: second, disregarding me and wz, our opponents fought their way to 3.5
: district champion matches. They should be used as benchmark for 3.5+.
: Dao, I understand a state champion team is much better, but you can't use
: that as a benchmark for 3.5 MID. It's a math problem.

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w*****e
发帖数: 309
21
well said.
my hat off to you for your attitude :)
Tennis to me is fun and an exercise. I have noticed dramatic improvement
over my health since I started playing tennis, and I've had a lot of fun
playing with friends.
Of course when the condition is right, competition makes it even more fun.
But on a night after a long day of work and with limited light, I prefer
some 消遣性玩耍. If I can improve on some technic, that 's great, if not,
still OK.
for me, the most thing I wanted to show in the video is my serve from
different angles from my previous posts, however due to the recording
limitation and our rotation, it turned out I am the only one whose serve can
't be seen in the video...

..
trash

【在 U******u 的大作中提到】
: When I watch and evaluate IDs's game and skills on this board during naked-
: ben(run show-off), I suppose the ppl are seriously play games and fights....
: ...
: but just let you know, I almost never play for fun, or "消遣性玩耍", if I
: play--with higher hand or same level, I always play very seriously and
: always be in a dog-fights--I like competitive sports always, now focus on
: tennis. I just don't want waste my life for 消遣性玩耍--this is just
: personality and personal value, nothing wrong when you said you guys play
: for消遣性玩耍.......
: OK, if as you said that it's "我们是在消遣性玩耍", then all I said are trash

U******u
发帖数: 5829
22
from both you guys comments, I do smell something beyond what you said....
lol
any way, I played so many yrs and 3 seasons for USTA and 4 teams at 3.5
level and watched so many teams, person, and pairs at this level and 4.0. I
am sure I can evaluate and rank IDs here more accurately than many guys here.
no look-down you guys skills, just assume you guys ben for bricks, and seems
you actually want to hear good words rather true words. so be it.
you guys not seriously play for ppl to evaluate then, what I said on you
guys game and skill are meanless either lal.......
enjoy your games for fun.......

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
: first, 我们是在消遣性玩耍.
: second, disregarding me and wz, our opponents fought their way to 3.5
: district champion matches. They should be used as benchmark for 3.5+.
: Dao, I understand a state champion team is much better, but you can't use
: that as a benchmark for 3.5 MID. It's a math problem.

w*****e
发帖数: 309
23
Bricks are always welcome. I 've got educated from bricks, including yours.
Only felt a little uncomfortable when you pushed someone below 3.5mid while
I thought they are getting bumped up to 4.0 soon. Not a big deal,
technically still same level :)

I
here.
seems

【在 U******u 的大作中提到】
: from both you guys comments, I do smell something beyond what you said....
: lol
: any way, I played so many yrs and 3 seasons for USTA and 4 teams at 3.5
: level and watched so many teams, person, and pairs at this level and 4.0. I
: am sure I can evaluate and rank IDs here more accurately than many guys here.
: no look-down you guys skills, just assume you guys ben for bricks, and seems
: you actually want to hear good words rather true words. so be it.
: you guys not seriously play for ppl to evaluate then, what I said on you
: guys game and skill are meanless either lal.......
: enjoy your games for fun.......

W***3
发帖数: 74
24
Comparing 大炮in aTm ben, I feel more comfortable as 2.0. More importantly
we should have fun while playing tennis.
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
25
我打网球就是一定要赢的。可惜技术太差,有心无力,lol
在争赢的过程中自然就have fun了

importantly

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: Comparing 大炮in aTm ben, I feel more comfortable as 2.0. More importantly
: we should have fun while playing tennis.

b*********s
发帖数: 6757
26
相信这里打球的都是为了fun,只是对fun得要求不同。有的能赢就是fun, 有的能进步就
是fun, 有的能和朋友聚聚发发牢骚说说脏话就是fun, 有的是要在场上比赛时可以不想
生活烦恼的那种感觉 (or combination). 不管是什么fun,都还是想进步的(代价的价值
观不同而已)。如果要技术建议就该认真对待,提建议的人也该只从技术上提,rating
这玩意太sensitive, 而且对进步没有直接的帮助。 =)
W***3
发帖数: 74
27
黑导网球一流,说话也是一流.
赢球是fun,以球会友也是fun.
能进步就更fun.
老刀不必犹豫,想说就说.
要进步,脸皮不厚不行.
d******e
发帖数: 2541
28
我这糙人从来就是直肠子,有话就说有P就放,不带谦虚和奉承的。愿听不听不是我考
虑的,所以得罪人不少。SO BE IT。
我说了,动作和具体技术,我不谈,因为我就是非动作派的,没法谈。我谈了你们得G
AME战术问题,也是我从你们得“娱乐玩耍”段子而言,如果真如此,那就算我得“
RANKING”和评论是废话了--玩耍得GAME其实就不必也不合适拿来当真让
人评论和“指教”的。
如果你有3。0水平,我楞说你是3。5强,那是PMP,我不会;如果你有真得3。
5或4。0,耍着玩,我评论低了,一是我看走眼,二是视频本身让人误判。谁都不必
当真。
不过,你要说2小时双打没运动量,我绝对不同意,只能认为,你们得双打对子水平和
GAME强度太低,你们根本没体会到真正双打好的对子(》3。5+~4。5+)对
打时得体力消耗和激烈程度!我和HENRY搭档在STL得俱乐部多次与比我俩RA
NKING高至少0。5得对打,我自己参加加拿大得高级俱乐部,每周一次4。5双
打(有5。0和5。5参加),强度之大,你们根本体会不到。我现在很珍惜自己有限
得时间,所以绝不会打你们这种“消闲玩耍”得双打,要打,都是激烈对抗的4。0以
上的,而且每次都是3-4小时。每周要3-5次。
至于把你们4个评低了也是不公平--与我打的2个队和州赛队伍相比是有失公允了些
。下次上个真正拼得双打视频看看?
以后要是“消遣玩耍”得视频,说明一下,我也就不会认真去看和评了。。。。。。。

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: 黑导网球一流,说话也是一流.
: 赢球是fun,以球会友也是fun.
: 能进步就更fun.
: 老刀不必犹豫,想说就说.
: 要进步,脸皮不厚不行.

d******e
发帖数: 2541
29
其实,我已经谈到“尤其,最大弱点和缺陷,是接发或对打中另一非接球搭档拍子常常
下垂握着,双腿直立 ,完全不是时刻要启动,奔跑和上网截杀得准备动作,看着完全
是消遣性玩耍而已。”,这个印象由你们自己“承认”和证实,也同样说明了我看球得
认真和评论得准确尖锐。
只不过,说你们RANKING低了和与我得双打对子比赛拿不到2:6,让你们不爽
难堪了点。
算我说话不客气,又得罪了。。。。。。。
w*****e
发帖数: 309
30
haha, LaoDao your watering power is definitely among top 2 on this board.
I wish you comment every one of my ben.
This was the very first games I ben. I think people can see a lot of
problems no matter how much effort we put in.
The reason I said 2小时双打没运动量 was that it is the first time I edit
full sets, surprised to see it shrinks to less than 20 min of action. That's
all.
If possible please ben a set of your double and I am wondering what the
ratio of action over set time will be.
You have not 得罪 me. I am just a bit uncomfortable(yesterday) when you bash
all of our ratings. I am totally fine today. It's just a rating after all
and it's only your opinion, which seems always towards the strict side
historically.
Now I really want to play with you if I get the chance.
Dao, not like you, who has so many 4.0-5.0 opponents, our problem is that
not many players at or above 4.0 are willing to play with us. My bad, not
with us, with me. Wz plays usta matches with 4.0's every other week.
Alex, you can help me out here. You will be very welcomed to join our
wednesday games.
Dao, thanks again for the discussion, we are all good.

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 我这糙人从来就是直肠子,有话就说有P就放,不带谦虚和奉承的。愿听不听不是我考
: 虑的,所以得罪人不少。SO BE IT。
: 我说了,动作和具体技术,我不谈,因为我就是非动作派的,没法谈。我谈了你们得G
: AME战术问题,也是我从你们得“娱乐玩耍”段子而言,如果真如此,那就算我得“
: RANKING”和评论是废话了--玩耍得GAME其实就不必也不合适拿来当真让
: 人评论和“指教”的。
: 如果你有3。0水平,我楞说你是3。5强,那是PMP,我不会;如果你有真得3。
: 5或4。0,耍着玩,我评论低了,一是我看走眼,二是视频本身让人误判。谁都不必
: 当真。
: 不过,你要说2小时双打没运动量,我绝对不同意,只能认为,你们得双打对子水平和

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b*********s
发帖数: 6757
31
hehe, I like your analysis on ppl's ben too (not the parts regarding rating
though), I think it's direct, and on the point. It's better than those good
feel factor. At end of the day, praises doesn't do jack for your game, truth
hurts, but one can learn a lot more from it. No pain no gain right. =)

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 其实,我已经谈到“尤其,最大弱点和缺陷,是接发或对打中另一非接球搭档拍子常常
: 下垂握着,双腿直立 ,完全不是时刻要启动,奔跑和上网截杀得准备动作,看着完全
: 是消遣性玩耍而已。”,这个印象由你们自己“承认”和证实,也同样说明了我看球得
: 认真和评论得准确尖锐。
: 只不过,说你们RANKING低了和与我得双打对子比赛拿不到2:6,让你们不爽
: 难堪了点。
: 算我说话不客气,又得罪了。。。。。。。

W***3
发帖数: 74
32
多谢老刀!
一般来说,高手不喜欢与低手打.
我很羡慕你和许多高手打.
几年前我和HENRY在教会打过一次篮球, 但从来没有打过网球.
他贵人多忘事.早不记的小弟. 小弟每次读他的文章,大笑不以.
我没有意识到我接发时,双腿直立.我再看看.
我们 再pen.
d******e
发帖数: 2541
33
我自己没兴趣奔--唯一一次自己拍了奔得是和鼻涕比发球。其他是爬踢的被奔。
但可以实话告诉你,我每周要和一帮4。0-4。5的打3-5次,每次3-4小时,
而且绝对没有你们那种消闲打法的GAME,都是很SERIOUS得DOG-FIG
HTS,一场下来换2-3件可以拧出水的T衫,喝光2-3大瓶运动饮料。就是前两
个月打得少的,也是1-2次/周跑到CC家和一帮NJ弟兄们死掐,下午2-6点,
中间根本不休息的。
所以,我很有把握,你们得运动强度根本没法和我所经历的相比相抗衡。没绝对把握,
我不会说大话,正如,我没把握赢鼻涕发球,我不会唯一一次自己自拍单挑。
场上,永远靠拍子说话更响。
另外,可能也是你们得“消遣玩耍”打球态度吧,我总能找到比我水平高的好球友,原
因也是如上。靠“消遣玩耍”找4。0-4。5跟你认真打帮你提高?我很稀奇哪个“
好人”会如此。我能有很多好手成为对打搭档和陪练,指导,靠得唯一一点就是我从不
服输的拼的劲头和风格,以及对对手得敬重赢得的。NJ匪帮如此,HENRY也是同
样!
如果,你们要跟我“消遣玩耍”打球,我根本不会考虑接待,我宁可自己一个人去练2
小时发500个球。。。。。。。

's
bash

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: haha, LaoDao your watering power is definitely among top 2 on this board.
: I wish you comment every one of my ben.
: This was the very first games I ben. I think people can see a lot of
: problems no matter how much effort we put in.
: The reason I said 2小时双打没运动量 was that it is the first time I edit
: full sets, surprised to see it shrinks to less than 20 min of action. That's
: all.
: If possible please ben a set of your double and I am wondering what the
: ratio of action over set time will be.
: You have not 得罪 me. I am just a bit uncomfortable(yesterday) when you bash

w*****e
发帖数: 309
34
...
You need to read his post more carefully...

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: 多谢老刀!
: 一般来说,高手不喜欢与低手打.
: 我很羡慕你和许多高手打.
: 几年前我和HENRY在教会打过一次篮球, 但从来没有打过网球.
: 他贵人多忘事.早不记的小弟. 小弟每次读他的文章,大笑不以.
: 我没有意识到我接发时,双腿直立.我再看看.
: 我们 再pen.

d******e
发帖数: 2541
35
可惜,这年头(其实历来如此)人都爱听好听的。
我也如此。。。。。LOL
不过,我老见识多了吃饭吃盐多了点,可能稍好点?
不过,我也确实很佩服您黑导,除了球技和评球水平高,说话确实绅士风度,容易让人
接受。
我这种糙人加职业习惯,总是白刀子进红刀子出,要一针见血一刀出脓,来利索的,不
管他疼不疼。。。。。。呵呵
No pain no gain--I always believe it firmly, in my pro experience, s well as
on competitive sports.......
hat off to u!

rating
good
truth

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: hehe, I like your analysis on ppl's ben too (not the parts regarding rating
: though), I think it's direct, and on the point. It's better than those good
: feel factor. At end of the day, praises doesn't do jack for your game, truth
: hurts, but one can learn a lot more from it. No pain no gain right. =)

d******e
发帖数: 2541
36
just curious:
who is another one on top 2?
little-3, that 3.0 "famous-man" trash-talker???
as long as u don't indicate your ben is "entertainment and for fun", I'll
always make some noise and mouth-water......
lol
在 wcoffee (浮叶) 的大作中提到: 】
: I wish you comment every one of my ben.
W***3
发帖数: 74
37
老刀说话直.只要是问题,我们可以提高.
老刀说6:2 赢, 也是可能的.
他3.5队2003曾打到National.我2010开始打网球.
老刀若来Chicago, 我会高兴接待.

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: ...
: You need to read his post more carefully...

b*********s
发帖数: 6757
38
oh yea, just to point out one thing. When you play against someone who's
much better. Don't try to hit some awesome shots that's beyond your skill
level. The key is to just play your shot and try your best to run every shot
down and keep the ball in play.
d******e
发帖数: 2541
39
haha, u always say something that I missed although I thought........

shot

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: oh yea, just to point out one thing. When you play against someone who's
: much better. Don't try to hit some awesome shots that's beyond your skill
: level. The key is to just play your shot and try your best to run every shot
: down and keep the ball in play.

d******e
发帖数: 2541
40
totally agree on "try your best to run every shot down and keep the ball in
play".........
even facing a strong 4.5, I always do my utmost to run and try to get ball
back court, those young guns, although much strong and higher in tennis
skills, they DO appreciate my competitive spirit--can be knocked out, but
just stand up again and again to keep fight.......
that's why those high-hands really like to play with me, a much older, and 0
.5 even 1.0 lower in ranking than them. Although I no doubt loss the game,
however, I won their respect on the court, and won their friendship........

shot

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: oh yea, just to point out one thing. When you play against someone who's
: much better. Don't try to hit some awesome shots that's beyond your skill
: level. The key is to just play your shot and try your best to run every shot
: down and keep the ball in play.

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w*****e
发帖数: 309
41
That's all about you. no problem.
I was talking about Dao's advice:
"我没有意识到我接发时,双腿直立"
It was about the one whose partner receives not the one who receives. Nobody
would do that receiving even when you play for fun.
Don't just take advice blindly ---they could be wrong or you could just read
it wrong.

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: 老刀说话直.只要是问题,我们可以提高.
: 老刀说6:2 赢, 也是可能的.
: 他3.5队2003曾打到National.我2010开始打网球.
: 老刀若来Chicago, 我会高兴接待.

W***3
发帖数: 74
42
I see.
老刀, Why the receiver's partner needs to bend his leg in ready position?
Should he pay attention to whether the coming ball is in or out?
w*****e
发帖数: 309
43
Man...my bad. I should've used top 10.
This is off the topic and I will not comment.

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: just curious:
: who is another one on top 2?
: little-3, that 3.0 "famous-man" trash-talker???
: as long as u don't indicate your ben is "entertainment and for fun", I'll
: always make some noise and mouth-water......
: lol
: 在 wcoffee (浮叶) 的大作中提到: 】
: : I wish you comment every one of my ben.

w*****e
发帖数: 309
44
haha, now you are talking.

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: I see.
: 老刀, Why the receiver's partner needs to bend his leg in ready position?
: Should he pay attention to whether the coming ball is in or out?

a**s
发帖数: 9606
45
in doubles, especially higher level double, everybody need to be in
ready position since the ball might come to your feet in less a second
if the returner has to block a fast serve to the net person ...

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: I see.
: 老刀, Why the receiver's partner needs to bend his leg in ready position?
: Should he pay attention to whether the coming ball is in or out?

h****z
发帖数: 2009
46
我老犯这毛病,跟高手打球老想拼了,于是好多low percentage shot,不过输得倒是
比较爽快,也没啥郁闷的,LOL

shot

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: oh yea, just to point out one thing. When you play against someone who's
: much better. Don't try to hit some awesome shots that's beyond your skill
: level. The key is to just play your shot and try your best to run every shot
: down and keep the ball in play.

a**s
发帖数: 9606
47
lol high hand will be bored since you missed all the shots

【在 h****z 的大作中提到】
: 我老犯这毛病,跟高手打球老想拼了,于是好多low percentage shot,不过输得倒是
: 比较爽快,也没啥郁闷的,LOL
:
: shot

d******e
发帖数: 2541
48
这其实很容易理解啊,你看看BRAN兄弟得双打,甚至任何正经得4。0-4。5以
上双打(不谈消遣玩耍的比赛),非接发搭档都是要弯腰曲膝举拍盯住对方,己方发球
时更是如此。这和羽毛球双打完全一样的!
按你们4个显示得发球和接发能力,我敢说,我目前双打可以很轻易截杀你们得发球和
回接发球,而这时一般网前截击杀球得对象都是对方网前人,你们那种两腿直立手握拍
下垂则根本不是防守得姿势和动作准备,轻得立刻没反应被截杀,你们要是没练过羽毛
球,运动素质一般,严重得则很可能被击中身体都防不及。
所以,我第一次评时,就最主要看这一点,就认为你们水平低,或者根本是“玩耍娱乐
”不是真正比赛得状态。我在公园打野球,除非对手太差,绝大多数都很认真,弯腰屈
膝,于网前,随时扑杀对方得回接发球或接发球--当我是网前人时。。。。。。。
if games just for fun and social entertain, then that's another story and u
can do anything u like or want.......

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: I see.
: 老刀, Why the receiver's partner needs to bend his leg in ready position?
: Should he pay attention to whether the coming ball is in or out?

b*********s
发帖数: 6757
49
i was referring to practice. Playing a match is a bit different. Although if
the person is 1.0 above, it's some what waste of his time to play a match
unless he wants to work on serve, or serve & volley....

【在 h****z 的大作中提到】
: 我老犯这毛病,跟高手打球老想拼了,于是好多low percentage shot,不过输得倒是
: 比较爽快,也没啥郁闷的,LOL
:
: shot

h****z
发帖数: 2009
50
LOL, not all, I do have some good points to remember, hehe

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: lol high hand will be bored since you missed all the shots
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h****z
发帖数: 2009
51
Practice is different, definitely try to keep the ball in play as much as
possible

if

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: i was referring to practice. Playing a match is a bit different. Although if
: the person is 1.0 above, it's some what waste of his time to play a match
: unless he wants to work on serve, or serve & volley....

d******e
发帖数: 2541
52
make story short: no one want to run to pick ball for a low hand.......
just so simple.......
and actually it's not polite to let a high hand do so.
When I play with high hand, I do my best to run to pick the balls back even
I was farther than opponent to the balls, no matter that high hand is
younger or older......
may be this is another evidence for those bedbug to bite me as "tian3" high
hand........lol
many high hands I played or being friend later on could easily understand
how I am serious to play and how I showed my respect to them, then they do
samething to me--to play seriously with me and give me more advice or
instruction.
that's another key secret how I learned and improved my tennis skills and
game skills.......

if

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: i was referring to practice. Playing a match is a bit different. Although if
: the person is 1.0 above, it's some what waste of his time to play a match
: unless he wants to work on serve, or serve & volley....

a**s
发帖数: 9606
53
percentage? <10%?

【在 h****z 的大作中提到】
: LOL, not all, I do have some good points to remember, hehe
h****z
发帖数: 2009
54
10% I will be very happy already, LOL

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: percentage? <10%?
w*****e
发帖数: 309
55
按你们4个显示得发球和接发能力,我敢说,我目前双打可以很轻易截杀你们得发球和
回接发球
lol, you are hilarious, how do you 轻易截杀发球?

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 这其实很容易理解啊,你看看BRAN兄弟得双打,甚至任何正经得4。0-4。5以
: 上双打(不谈消遣玩耍的比赛),非接发搭档都是要弯腰曲膝举拍盯住对方,己方发球
: 时更是如此。这和羽毛球双打完全一样的!
: 按你们4个显示得发球和接发能力,我敢说,我目前双打可以很轻易截杀你们得发球和
: 回接发球,而这时一般网前截击杀球得对象都是对方网前人,你们那种两腿直立手握拍
: 下垂则根本不是防守得姿势和动作准备,轻得立刻没反应被截杀,你们要是没练过羽毛
: 球,运动素质一般,严重得则很可能被击中身体都防不及。
: 所以,我第一次评时,就最主要看这一点,就认为你们水平低,或者根本是“玩耍娱乐
: ”不是真正比赛得状态。我在公园打野球,除非对手太差,绝大多数都很认真,弯腰屈
: 膝,于网前,随时扑杀对方得回接发球或接发球--当我是网前人时。。。。。。。

w*****e
发帖数: 309
56
on this I agree.
I always feel grateful to play someone much better than me.

even
high

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: make story short: no one want to run to pick ball for a low hand.......
: just so simple.......
: and actually it's not polite to let a high hand do so.
: When I play with high hand, I do my best to run to pick the balls back even
: I was farther than opponent to the balls, no matter that high hand is
: younger or older......
: may be this is another evidence for those bedbug to bite me as "tian3" high
: hand........lol
: many high hands I played or being friend later on could easily understand
: how I am serious to play and how I showed my respect to them, then they do

b*********s
发帖数: 6757
57
lol yea man, I do get ticked off when I do drill with someone who's clear
not my level, and I end up picking up most of the balls.... my thought is "
damn spoiled du sheng zi nv" (although some might be older than me lol)

even
high

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: make story short: no one want to run to pick ball for a low hand.......
: just so simple.......
: and actually it's not polite to let a high hand do so.
: When I play with high hand, I do my best to run to pick the balls back even
: I was farther than opponent to the balls, no matter that high hand is
: younger or older......
: may be this is another evidence for those bedbug to bite me as "tian3" high
: hand........lol
: many high hands I played or being friend later on could easily understand
: how I am serious to play and how I showed my respect to them, then they do

a**s
发帖数: 9606
58
only <10% will be boring for high hand if you always try those
low percentage shots. No fun and no way to practice anything
for them

【在 h****z 的大作中提到】
: 10% I will be very happy already, LOL
d******e
发帖数: 2541
59
多谢指出笔误。
应该分别说:暴抽回击发球和截杀回发球。
我常常上来要试探对方网前能力时,就是逮着软发球时暴抽直线打网前人,你们那种腿
直立而且拍子下垂,说实话很容易被暴力球打中的。

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 按你们4个显示得发球和接发能力,我敢说,我目前双打可以很轻易截杀你们得发球和
: 回接发球
: lol, you are hilarious, how do you 轻易截杀发球?

w*****e
发帖数: 309
60
I never do that when my partner's serving, just for the sake of protecting
myself.

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 多谢指出笔误。
: 应该分别说:暴抽回击发球和截杀回发球。
: 我常常上来要试探对方网前能力时,就是逮着软发球时暴抽直线打网前人,你们那种腿
: 直立而且拍子下垂,说实话很容易被暴力球打中的。

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d******e
发帖数: 2541
61
u r so or too nice and true gentleman lal.......
I won't waste my time and I 'd prefer to practice by myself on serve or
stroke rather than coaching a low hand as u mentioned to run to pick ball
for them but who still know nothing on appreciate such coaching........lol
u r the MAN!

【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: lol yea man, I do get ticked off when I do drill with someone who's clear
: not my level, and I end up picking up most of the balls.... my thought is "
: damn spoiled du sheng zi nv" (although some might be older than me lol)
:
: even
: high

w*****e
发帖数: 309
62
talking about high hand, I occasionally hit with a guy who went to Arizona a
couple of years ago, I believed he was in a 4.0 team.
Yes, he picked way more balls than I do and he sweat way less than I do and
that sometimes embarrass me. I have an OK ground stroke so he can hit many
balls in one rally, I think that's why he came back to play with me again.
Short story you have to give something back to the high hand or it's really
not gonna happen.

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: only <10% will be boring for high hand if you always try those
: low percentage shots. No fun and no way to practice anything
: for them

w*****e
发帖数: 309
63
I knew this was 笔误. I pointed out because I think this shows how (over)
confident you are. In your mind you can just kill any ball from us.

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 多谢指出笔误。
: 应该分别说:暴抽回击发球和截杀回发球。
: 我常常上来要试探对方网前能力时,就是逮着软发球时暴抽直线打网前人,你们那种腿
: 直立而且拍子下垂,说实话很容易被暴力球打中的。

d******e
发帖数: 2541
64
嗯,闻出来了,你还是不服气嘛。。。。。。。
好吧,下次有机会去风城就和HENRY,A扁再找个>4.0的对打,让你们见识一下
什么是有运动量得双打。
即使你们打着玩,从动作和跑动速度,启动反应速度等等,看出一个人得运动素质如何
并不难。
你既然没什么机会和4。0--4。5得对打双打,体会不到那个层次得运动量和激烈
程度也很自然。再说也无用了。
还是那句话:场上靠拍子说话。。。。。。

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: I knew this was 笔误. I pointed out because I think this shows how (over)
: confident you are. In your mind you can just kill any ball from us.

h****z
发帖数: 2009
65
估计5Z肯定被我pissed off了 :-(

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: only <10% will be boring for high hand if you always try those
: low percentage shots. No fun and no way to practice anything
: for them

a**s
发帖数: 9606
66
hehe, he is a nice guy and you are the host to play with him.
That is different. Not like regular hitting partner type.

【在 h****z 的大作中提到】
: 估计5Z肯定被我pissed off了 :-(
d******e
发帖数: 2541
67
totally agree, 5z is just like black-teacher, very nice gentleman on the
court.......

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: hehe, he is a nice guy and you are the host to play with him.
: That is different. Not like regular hitting partner type.

w*****e
发帖数: 309
68
fair enough.
See you at the court.
But,
it's a big but,
you'd better hurry, I could become that >4.0 guy soon. haha

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,闻出来了,你还是不服气嘛。。。。。。。
: 好吧,下次有机会去风城就和HENRY,A扁再找个>4.0的对打,让你们见识一下
: 什么是有运动量得双打。
: 即使你们打着玩,从动作和跑动速度,启动反应速度等等,看出一个人得运动素质如何
: 并不难。
: 你既然没什么机会和4。0--4。5得对打双打,体会不到那个层次得运动量和激烈
: 程度也很自然。再说也无用了。
: 还是那句话:场上靠拍子说话。。。。。。

d******e
发帖数: 2541
69
even u bumped to 4.0 end of this yr, I won't invite u to join as a player to
pair any one of us, new bumped 4.0 still not good enough or consistent at
true 4.0 level.
I won't hurry at all, I am overconfidenced that even in 1-2 yrs, I still
have enough energy/gas, or good enough skill to drag u down on the court....
...hehe
BUT, big but too, I change my Dan Tiao3 (single challenge) regulation too...
....

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: fair enough.
: See you at the court.
: But,
: it's a big but,
: you'd better hurry, I could become that >4.0 guy soon. haha

n**u
发帖数: 768
70
You are probably the best single player among the four of you. No doubt you
will become a 4.0 player soon. But As Laodao/Blackdao pointed out, your
double game is not as strong as your single game. Your preparation, court
positioning, and shot selection are not suited for doubles yet. Practice
more and beat Laodao in Doubles next time. 我看好你喔。
Sorry, Laodao. Hahahaha.

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: fair enough.
: See you at the court.
: But,
: it's a big but,
: you'd better hurry, I could become that >4.0 guy soon. haha

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w*****e
发帖数: 309
71
I love your warm good words. finally... tears...
I lost to these guys playing singles all the time. but I think I am making
good progress recently. We will see.

you

【在 n**u 的大作中提到】
: You are probably the best single player among the four of you. No doubt you
: will become a 4.0 player soon. But As Laodao/Blackdao pointed out, your
: double game is not as strong as your single game. Your preparation, court
: positioning, and shot selection are not suited for doubles yet. Practice
: more and beat Laodao in Doubles next time. 我看好你喔。
: Sorry, Laodao. Hahahaha.

d******e
发帖数: 2541
72
haha, I won't worry at all.
double is totally different from single in game strategy and skills. and
even good at some extent, how to pair another player randomly is also a big
challenge. This is my big advantage in another aspect in double games, I
played many unknown and never-met-before players, almost all they love to
pair with me and played easily.
I've played 4 teams in 3 seasons of USTA, no fixed partners, always randomly
pair with somebodies. How to co-op and co-play with a strange partner is
also a game skill--a very difficult one too.

you

【在 n**u 的大作中提到】
: You are probably the best single player among the four of you. No doubt you
: will become a 4.0 player soon. But As Laodao/Blackdao pointed out, your
: double game is not as strong as your single game. Your preparation, court
: positioning, and shot selection are not suited for doubles yet. Practice
: more and beat Laodao in Doubles next time. 我看好你喔。
: Sorry, Laodao. Hahahaha.

h****z
发帖数: 2009
73
这个百分之200的同意

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: hehe, he is a nice guy and you are the host to play with him.
: That is different. Not like regular hitting partner type.

W***3
发帖数: 74
74
I know the server's partner needs to be ready to approach a weak return. I
did not realize that the receiver's partner needs to be in ready position.
Because there is no referee in most of matches, I thought that the job of
receiver's partner is to call whether the serve is out or not, then react
properly depending the quantity of the return. But there is no harm to be
ready all the time. Thank you for your advice.

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: in doubles, especially higher level double, everybody need to be in
: ready position since the ball might come to your feet in less a second
: if the returner has to block a fast serve to the net person ...

a**s
发帖数: 9606
75
you will figure out when you play more 4.0+ level doubles. If you are not
ready, you may not be able to protect your balls from the ball :)

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: I know the server's partner needs to be ready to approach a weak return. I
: did not realize that the receiver's partner needs to be in ready position.
: Because there is no referee in most of matches, I thought that the job of
: receiver's partner is to call whether the serve is out or not, then react
: properly depending the quantity of the return. But there is no harm to be
: ready all the time. Thank you for your advice.

W***3
发帖数: 74
76
It is my idea to 奔. I am gratefull that 浮叶 did all the work.
I have learnt one or two things from the post. So it is good enough for me.
Thank you.
U******u
发帖数: 5829
77
hahaha, u made points: ball to balls......lol
yeah, from their entertainment game video and their reply posts, they are
far away from good double games at 3.5++~4.0 levels, even they didn't pay
attention on how those 4.0 double players played or pro played.......
any way, they just for fun, we made comments for fun, too.
lol

: did not realize that the receiver's partner needs to be in ready position
.
: Because there is no referee in most of matches, I thought that the job of
: receiver's partner is to call whether the serve is out or not, then react
: properly depending the quantity of the return. But there is no harm to be
: ready all the time. Thank you for your advice.

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: you will figure out when you play more 4.0+ level doubles. If you are not
: ready, you may not be able to protect your balls from the ball :)

W***3
发帖数: 74
78
I did play in 4.0 USTA league. My balls seems to be fine :). But I have
never played in 4.5 league. lol.

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: you will figure out when you play more 4.0+ level doubles. If you are not
: ready, you may not be able to protect your balls from the ball :)

a**s
发帖数: 9606
79
glad to know that lol Good luck

【在 W***3 的大作中提到】
: I did play in 4.0 USTA league. My balls seems to be fine :). But I have
: never played in 4.5 league. lol.

U******u
发帖数: 5829
80
en, this is a life time one mistake only......lol
he did not make mistake yet, gd luck for playing same way and never have
such mistake made!
lol

: never played in 4.5 league. lol.

【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: glad to know that lol Good luck
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W***3
发帖数: 74
81
Sometime you got hit has nothing to do whether you are ready or not. Joke
got hit on the face by Nadal. I once hitter someone's ball in a overhead in
the match. I felt terrible and wish I have a better skill to control the
ball.
In my humble opion, the biggest difference between 3.5 and 4.0 match is that
most 4.0 are serve and volley, so both players on the net quickly and there
is no weak serve you can take advantage. obviously 4.0 have better skill
and the ball is faster and less UE.
s***l
发帖数: 952
82
视频有创意啊,顶

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/8QdQO9KqzeA
: 白衣是我,我同伙是wz123。欢迎使劲拍。
: 对面两个朋友不上网版,请轻拍,我会转拍。
: 除了我的三个都是本地3。5强队的主力,今年打入了季后赛。本人是另外一个队的主力
: 炮灰。
: 另,编辑set 太费劲了这是第一次搞了3个多小时。有什么捷径么?
: 再另,两个小时真正在打就20分钟,双打运动量还是不够啊!

w*****e
发帖数: 309
83
new cop?

【在 s***l 的大作中提到】
: 视频有创意啊,顶
s***l
发帖数: 952
84
你咋知道?
我既不排队,又不买票,你咋知道我是新城管?

【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: new cop?
W***3
发帖数: 74
85
高手请教. 砖 please.

【在 s***l 的大作中提到】
: 你咋知道?
: 我既不排队,又不买票,你咋知道我是新城管?

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