a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 1 星期天早上,与team里擅长double的一个队友打了一下.训练的重点就是暴力和最近讨论
的热门,footwork.
第一个set,拿着K90,整天不由自觉地就刷起topspin,想用暴力时,就觉得压不了球,暴力
不起来,与对方的来回还是太多了.最后自己狂抽一板就出界.4:6输掉.第二个set,换成
KPS88,感觉就好很多了,能压住球,基本上kill一个一个准.来回不多,也就是两三拍左右
.6:3速胜.然后聊了十多分钟的天.结果第三个set一上来,手感全无,3:6速败.
整场都是我压着他打,基本上都跑到位了,但就是暴力时失误太多,90%都是我的正手失误
.反手基本上没有什么失误.单反swing起来非常舒服,应该是单反的swing path比较完整
,所以即使加力也相当consistent.看来要重新练一下正手了... |
t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 2 being a consistent pusher is good, don't change.
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: 星期天早上,与team里擅长double的一个队友打了一下.训练的重点就是暴力和最近讨论
: 的热门,footwork.
: 第一个set,拿着K90,整天不由自觉地就刷起topspin,想用暴力时,就觉得压不了球,暴力
: 不起来,与对方的来回还是太多了.最后自己狂抽一板就出界.4:6输掉.第二个set,换成
: KPS88,感觉就好很多了,能压住球,基本上kill一个一个准.来回不多,也就是两三拍左右
: .6:3速胜.然后聊了十多分钟的天.结果第三个set一上来,手感全无,3:6速败.
: 整场都是我压着他打,基本上都跑到位了,但就是暴力时失误太多,90%都是我的正手失误
: .反手基本上没有什么失误.单反swing起来非常舒服,应该是单反的swing path比较完整
: ,所以即使加力也相当consistent.看来要重新练一下正手了...
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 3 hehe, if I want to be a pusher in the higher level, I need to stop tennis
for a while then and train my running speed and endurance more.
My goal is:
5K: under 20 mins
10K: under 45 mins
marathon: 3:30
Then I should be able to survive in 4.5.
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: being a consistent pusher is good, don't change.
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 4 impressive running goals. I ran 4K last night and probably took me over 20
mins. I need to run more so that I can run more than 4 miles in reasonable
speed.
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: hehe, if I want to be a pusher in the higher level, I need to stop tennis
: for a while then and train my running speed and endurance more.
: My goal is:
: 5K: under 20 mins
: 10K: under 45 mins
: marathon: 3:30
: Then I should be able to survive in 4.5.
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 5 my 5K is 40 minutes. hehe.
20
reasonable
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: impressive running goals. I ran 4K last night and probably took me over 20
: mins. I need to run more so that I can run more than 4 miles in reasonable
: speed.
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 6 I feel the 5K training helps the tennis most for both speed and endurance.
You can just follow a 5K training plan if you want. Like here:
http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/smartcoach
But even for 5K, it still requires you to run a lot. The weekly mileage is
around 20~25 miles.
20
reasonable
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: impressive running goals. I ran 4K last night and probably took me over 20
: mins. I need to run more so that I can run more than 4 miles in reasonable
: speed.
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 7 Maybe even 5K is too long for tennis...
Even better to just do 50m dashes, x number of times. It's all about the
acceleration. :o
For x-training endurance just swim or bike - running is too hard. lol
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: I feel the 5K training helps the tennis most for both speed and endurance.
: You can just follow a 5K training plan if you want. Like here:
: http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/smartcoach
: But even for 5K, it still requires you to run a lot. The weekly mileage is
: around 20~25 miles.
:
: 20
: reasonable
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 8 It will help the speed for sure. But I don't think it could help the
endurance a lot. Maybe after this training, your 1st set is lighting fast,
slow down in the 2nd set and crash in the 3rd set...
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Maybe even 5K is too long for tennis...
: Even better to just do 50m dashes, x number of times. It's all about the
: acceleration. :o
: For x-training endurance just swim or bike - running is too hard. lol
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 9 the point is you have to win in 2 sets!
Best x-training would be boxing then. Talk about a full-body workout. |
a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 10 Yeah, the boxing is an excellent full-body workout. At least if you can't finish the match in 2 sets, you still can KO your opponent. lol.
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: the point is you have to win in 2 sets!
: Best x-training would be boxing then. Talk about a full-body workout.
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 11 imo marathon is all about pacing... Which is great when you are trying to
best your own record - i.e., you can designate a more aggressive pacing, etc
... But I don't think it's a great x-train for a game like tennis - one
where you may NOT be able to dictate the pace. It's endurance but not quite
in the same way as marathon.
As a general fitness goal of course if you can run a marathon you are more
than fit enough to play a casual game of tennis. But as a goal to be more
competitive - there |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 12 体力很差型选手很高兴听到这一点。
偶发现偶参加网球、足球这种可以跑跑停停的项目体力远比跑步体力
好。当然两者都还是很差。
etc
quite
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: imo marathon is all about pacing... Which is great when you are trying to
: best your own record - i.e., you can designate a more aggressive pacing, etc
: ... But I don't think it's a great x-train for a game like tennis - one
: where you may NOT be able to dictate the pace. It's endurance but not quite
: in the same way as marathon.
: As a general fitness goal of course if you can run a marathon you are more
: than fit enough to play a casual game of tennis. But as a goal to be more
: competitive - there
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 13 But boxing is not good for game strategy. It's easy to get
P.H.D. and your IQ will drop...
finish the match in 2 sets, you still can KO your opponent. lol.
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, the boxing is an excellent full-body workout. At least if you can't finish the match in 2 sets, you still can KO your opponent. lol.
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 14 lol i'm talking about boxing TRAINING - not going into a ring and play the
bloody sport :)
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: But boxing is not good for game strategy. It's easy to get
: P.H.D. and your IQ will drop...
:
: finish the match in 2 sets, you still can KO your opponent. lol.
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 15 Remember my premise is "if I want to be a pusher in the higher level". Any
endurance training will help for being a pusher. The shorter distance
training is for a faster pusher.
x-training is great for tennis generally, but not good enough for a pusher.
etc
quite
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: imo marathon is all about pacing... Which is great when you are trying to
: best your own record - i.e., you can designate a more aggressive pacing, etc
: ... But I don't think it's a great x-train for a game like tennis - one
: where you may NOT be able to dictate the pace. It's endurance but not quite
: in the same way as marathon.
: As a general fitness goal of course if you can run a marathon you are more
: than fit enough to play a casual game of tennis. But as a goal to be more
: competitive - there
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 16 lol... I believe there are so many PHDs in mitbbs and many of them watch
this board.
Are you a PHD also?
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: But boxing is not good for game strategy. It's easy to get
: P.H.D. and your IQ will drop...
:
: finish the match in 2 sets, you still can KO your opponent. lol.
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 17 You can't be a pusher at a higher level by just running more marathons.
You already got plenty of endurance. If you want to 'push' more then level
up your acceleration and directional change. You ain't gonna get that from
running 10 more marathons.
BTW why are you still making these stupid claims about being 2.5 and wants
to be a better 'pusher' anyway? It's pretty obvious from your ben that you
are neither. So no point keep on emphasizing it lah. hehe |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 18 But 2.5 or not, he is still a pusher.
level
from
you
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: You can't be a pusher at a higher level by just running more marathons.
: You already got plenty of endurance. If you want to 'push' more then level
: up your acceleration and directional change. You ain't gonna get that from
: running 10 more marathons.
: BTW why are you still making these stupid claims about being 2.5 and wants
: to be a better 'pusher' anyway? It's pretty obvious from your ben that you
: are neither. So no point keep on emphasizing it lah. hehe
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 19 2.5 is MITBBS NTRP, not USTA NTRP. Both 2.5 and pusher are 鉴定ed by most
people here. So when I post anything here, I will become 2.5 pusher. When I
play in the real life, I become whatever my current USTA NTRP level is.
The relationship between MITBBS NTRP and USTA NTRP varied from person to
person.
level
from
you
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: You can't be a pusher at a higher level by just running more marathons.
: You already got plenty of endurance. If you want to 'push' more then level
: up your acceleration and directional change. You ain't gonna get that from
: running 10 more marathons.
: BTW why are you still making these stupid claims about being 2.5 and wants
: to be a better 'pusher' anyway? It's pretty obvious from your ben that you
: are neither. So no point keep on emphasizing it lah. hehe
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 20 he's not a pusher - i did not get that from the video i saw.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: But 2.5 or not, he is still a pusher.
:
: level
: from
: you
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l*******e
发帖数: 583 | |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 22 Why not? He slices and runs and slices...
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: he's not a pusher - i did not get that from the video i saw.
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 23 man, I didn't emphasize any 2.5 or pusher in my original post! I want to be
a 暴力男!
Just you guys 歪楼 my post to the pusher thing. Of course, when the "pusher"
word is mentioned, I will very naturally follow the topic!
level
from
you
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: You can't be a pusher at a higher level by just running more marathons.
: You already got plenty of endurance. If you want to 'push' more then level
: up your acceleration and directional change. You ain't gonna get that from
: running 10 more marathons.
: BTW why are you still making these stupid claims about being 2.5 and wants
: to be a better 'pusher' anyway? It's pretty obvious from your ben that you
: are neither. So no point keep on emphasizing it lah. hehe
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 24 Ah, just say that the MISBBS NTRP is completely irrelevant then :)
I
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: 2.5 is MITBBS NTRP, not USTA NTRP. Both 2.5 and pusher are 鉴定ed by most
: people here. So when I post anything here, I will become 2.5 pusher. When I
: play in the real life, I become whatever my current USTA NTRP level is.
: The relationship between MITBBS NTRP and USTA NTRP varied from person to
: person.
:
: level
: from
: you
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 25 That is why it is called MISBBS NTRP!
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Why not? He slices and runs and slices...
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 26 that doesn't make one a pusher.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Why not? He slices and runs and slices...
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 27 LOL @ MIS-BBS NTRP!
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: That is why it is called MISBBS NTRP!
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 28 oops... LOL
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: LOL @ MIS-BBS NTRP!
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 29 I dont run much but I understand long distance running help you lose fat and
keep fit. Given that I play a couple of times tennis per week, I just
could not find time to run. |
