s****M
发帖数: 34 | |
x******g
发帖数: 3952 | 2 I don't see why you can't.
We did that a few years back and didn't have problem.
But we didn't have problem doesn't mean it is 100% legal though.
【在 s****M 的大作中提到】
: 是不是married file jointly就不能申请$5000的treaty了呢？
: 在这个网站看到的，不知道是不是可靠。
: http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/taxes/h1-under-first-year-choice-77128.html
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t*******1
发帖数: 59 | 3 I believe if you file 1040, you can not claim that 5000 any more, for those
answer "YES", please let us know where you put this 5000 in 1040? |
x******g
发帖数: 3952 | 4 -5000 in misc income.
those
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: I believe if you file 1040, you can not claim that 5000 any more, for those
: answer "YES", please let us know where you put this 5000 in 1040?
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t********1
发帖数: 3029 | 5 我也刚好是这种状态。查了网上的一些资料。
按照我的理解，只要是有F1的状态，SSN和medicare的tax肯定不需要。china和us的
treaty也说明只要是F1，resident都可以享受treaty的。所以F1超过5年后变成
resident也能有5000免税。所以我想申请填着应该没问题。
好像填在第21项，应该还需要8833（或者8843）表格。
不知道我的理解对不对，希望大家有十分清楚的帮忙指正。 |
t*******1
发帖数: 59 | 6 对呀,你是把5000 放在income 栏里,不是变相增加了你的taxable income了而不是
claim exemption 了吗?
其实正确的做法是这5000只针对于1040NR 的filer, 而1040 filer是不存在这个问题的.
仔细看1040, 你会发现任何amount between line7-line22, 都只会增加你的taxable
income 而不是减少.
最近大家在讨论所谓的treaty, 很多都是理解的误区,我们accountant不会在non-
resident or resident 上纠缠太多,我们关心的是你到底应该file 1040NR or 1040,
然后再决定strategy 来帮大家省税.
please email me for furhter courtesy assistance, I am a NJ licensed CPA. |
x******g
发帖数: 3952 | 7 是-5000。不是增加。
的.
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: 对呀,你是把5000 放在income 栏里,不是变相增加了你的taxable income了而不是
: claim exemption 了吗?
: 其实正确的做法是这5000只针对于1040NR 的filer, 而1040 filer是不存在这个问题的.
: 仔细看1040, 你会发现任何amount between line7-line22, 都只会增加你的taxable
: income 而不是减少.
: 最近大家在讨论所谓的treaty, 很多都是理解的误区,我们accountant不会在non-
: resident or resident 上纠缠太多,我们关心的是你到底应该file 1040NR or 1040,
: 然后再决定strategy 来帮大家省税.
: please email me for furhter courtesy assistance, I am a NJ licensed CPA.
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t*******1
发帖数: 59 | |
s***x
发帖数: 885 | 9 这里的人都是这么干的，好像是irs回复的答案
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: 你可以在income 里面减5000 的吗?
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s***x
发帖数: 885 | 10 精华区x-4-3，在这里你也能学到东西的。
你可以在income 里面减5000 的吗?
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: 你可以在income 里面减5000 的吗?
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t********1
发帖数: 3029 | |
t*******1
发帖数: 59 | 12 Ok, I will call IRS today to verify. Since our firm never allow us to fill
in negative number into return.
before I give the answer, you guys can do what ever you want. |
x******g
发帖数: 3952 | 13 After you give the answer, we can still do what ever we want, right?
fill
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: Ok, I will call IRS today to verify. Since our firm never allow us to fill
: in negative number into return.
: before I give the answer, you guys can do what ever you want.
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t*******1
发帖数: 59 | 14 sure, you take your own risk, not somebody else.haha |
d*****n
发帖数: 2132 | 15 my wife is f-1, i am h-1, we do 5000 * 2 for years and irs actually examed
our tax twice at different years for some other reason, they never have any
problem with this.
fill
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: Ok, I will call IRS today to verify. Since our firm never allow us to fill
: in negative number into return.
: before I give the answer, you guys can do what ever you want.
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s*****r
发帖数: 48 | 16 It has been fully explained in pub519 that a resident can still claim the
5000 treaty if:
1) He or she entered the US as a nonresident, and became a resident later on
under substantial test but maintained as a student or trainee.
2) He or she entered the US as a nonresident, and chose to be treated as a
resident if filed jointly, but maintained as a student or trainee.
He or she needs attach 8833 to explain the treaty position but the exception
can be made if 1042-S is received.
those
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: I believe if you file 1040, you can not claim that 5000 any more, for those
: answer "YES", please let us know where you put this 5000 in 1040?
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s****M
发帖数: 34 | 17 so, if I changed to H1B, I can't claim the 5K anymore as I am not a student.
Right? |
s*****r
发帖数: 48 | 18 If you used OPT in 2008, I guess you could still claim it.
student.
【在 s****M 的大作中提到】
: so, if I changed to H1B, I can't claim the 5K anymore as I am not a student.
: Right?
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a****g
发帖数: 286 | 19 Now it's clear how to file it, but where to file 1040?
Last year, people here said to mail 1040 to the address denoted in 1040NR,
later on, there is different oppinion about this.
So where should we send 1040+8833?
on
exception
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】
: It has been fully explained in pub519 that a resident can still claim the
: 5000 treaty if:
: 1) He or she entered the US as a nonresident, and became a resident later on
: under substantial test but maintained as a student or trainee.
: 2) He or she entered the US as a nonresident, and chose to be treated as a
: resident if filed jointly, but maintained as a student or trainee.
: He or she needs attach 8833 to explain the treaty position but the exception
: can be made if 1042-S is received.
:
: those
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b*y
发帖数: 289 | 20 Anything new from IRS???
fill
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: Ok, I will call IRS today to verify. Since our firm never allow us to fill
: in negative number into return.
: before I give the answer, you guys can do what ever you want.
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t******n
发帖数: 6861 | 21 我是每年年初去学校payroll填表报$5000减免，W2来的时候box1里面直接就是剪掉$
5000之后的收入。
those
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: I believe if you file 1040, you can not claim that 5000 any more, for those
: answer "YES", please let us know where you put this 5000 in 1040?
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O******A
发帖数: 335 | 22 Your firm's policy only means your way to practice. Sure you can put a
negtive number on "misc income".
fill
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: Ok, I will call IRS today to verify. Since our firm never allow us to fill
: in negative number into return.
: before I give the answer, you guys can do what ever you want.
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L*******l
发帖数: 26 | 23 lalala, I can't use this treaty anymore |
x***y
发帖数: 830 | 24
examed
any
去年我file seperately,填的-5000,没问题.今年file jointly了，两个人都是F1,是不
是直接填-10000?
【在 d*****n 的大作中提到】
: my wife is f-1, i am h-1, we do 5000 * 2 for years and irs actually examed
: our tax twice at different years for some other reason, they never have any
: problem with this.
:
: fill
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b********8
发帖数: 70 | 25 精华区里有人讲1040＋8833要寄到费城。请过来人明示要寄到哪里？ |
l********e
发帖数: 349 | |
s*****e
发帖数: 3954 | 27 you are so wrong, at least the 'capital gain/loss' line can be a claim
exemption
的.
【在 t*******1 的大作中提到】
: 对呀,你是把5000 放在income 栏里,不是变相增加了你的taxable income了而不是
: claim exemption 了吗?
: 其实正确的做法是这5000只针对于1040NR 的filer, 而1040 filer是不存在这个问题的.
: 仔细看1040, 你会发现任何amount between line7-line22, 都只会增加你的taxable
: income 而不是减少.
: 最近大家在讨论所谓的treaty, 很多都是理解的误区,我们accountant不会在non-
: resident or resident 上纠缠太多,我们关心的是你到底应该file 1040NR or 1040,
: 然后再决定strategy 来帮大家省税.
: please email me for furhter courtesy assistance, I am a NJ licensed CPA.
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k*******g
发帖数: 34 | 28 有人联系IRS了吗？到底1040+8033应该寄到哪里？ |
g******n
发帖数: 19 | 29 I believe you are just lucky that you never got caught in your case...
I do not think you can still claim $5000treaty as you have been on H1B visa
for years... Anyone please correct me if I am wrong
examed
any
【在 d*****n 的大作中提到】
: my wife is f-1, i am h-1, we do 5000 * 2 for years and irs actually examed
: our tax twice at different years for some other reason, they never have any
: problem with this.
:
: fill
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g*****i
发帖数: 9630 | 30 F1 5000的免税跟身份状态等无关，只要你入境是以F1身份，且保持F1身份，
就可以享受，精华区有说明。
visa
【在 g******n 的大作中提到】
: I believe you are just lucky that you never got caught in your case...
: I do not think you can still claim $5000treaty as you have been on H1B visa
: for years... Anyone please correct me if I am wrong
:
: examed
: any
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g******n
发帖数: 19 | 31 Did I read his post right? He mentioned that he has been on H1B for years...
【在 g*****i 的大作中提到】
: F1 5000的免税跟身份状态等无关，只要你入境是以F1身份，且保持F1身份，
: 就可以享受，精华区有说明。
:
: visa
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l********g
发帖数: 986 | 32 My status changed from f1 to h1 on Feb 2008. It's my third year in the US,
can I still enjoy the $5000 treaty? Thanks! |
