d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 1 phelps这次游了100m fly和50m free（用50m fly游的）。后者据说是打酱油，我想他
的50 fr应该不至于已经慢于50 fly。本文要说的是前者。
从外形看，phelps的肩背比以前小了一圈，肚子有没有肥肉看不太清楚。
输给lochte也不让人意外。lochte虽然年长一岁，但是据说训练很刻苦，没有像phelps
一样三天打鱼两天晒网。去年世锦赛100 fly半决赛，lochte还创了他个人最好成绩。
phelps vs lochte的这次对决，主要看点有两个，phelps的划水和到边。
phelps第一段用了16个strokes，比他2012年多了一个。虽然他跳发（这个跳发略显业
余，有抬头动作，他过去从来没有出现过，至少因此输半尺）之后出水比2012年早了一
点，但是看他到边前最后一次划水超长滑行，基本可以肯定他的每划前进距离缩短了。
前进中的速度顿挫比2012年明显的多，和2009年身着快速泳衣创WR更是没法比。而且一
共有3次strokes的前进距离明显短于其他。这在phelps出道之后从来没有出现过。这说
明，天才可以少训练，但是不能不训练。
尽管如此，第一段过旗子之后，phelps只有一次划水，超长滑行到边。lochte过旗子之
后，在比phelps离壁更近的情况下，有两次全力划水。lochte到边的瞬间，从途中领先
phelps 0.18秒下降到领先0.12秒。没有水下视频，不太清楚原因。这个反差很强烈。
phelps 2012年被le clos最后时刻out reach，就是因为最后一划超长滑行，而le clos
拼命憋气划水。最后一划超长滑行到边是phelps的特色，尽管他为此输过，但是他就是
不改，这次更是用到极致，最后一划4米+。
再看这次他转身的速度，和第二段10.5米左右的水下，基本上可以断言，phelps的到边
和转身仍然是天下无双。
一个练蛙泳的朋友，他小时候被教练诊断为不适合自由泳，因为脚腕放松打水的时候脚
横向（左右）摆动幅度很大，等于一边打水一边刹车，但是游蛙泳翻脚又快又好。勤奋
很重要，但是勤奋不能解决所有问题。看起来phelps的到边和转身技术根本和训练无关
，基本上可以说是天生的，其他人在这个环节很难超越他。希望他能逐渐提高训练强度
，提高途中游速度，重回巅峰。 | T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 2 丫就是为了准备明年世界杯上50fly的。50fly比free记录慢2秒，根本不可能赢。 | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 3 他这次50 fly比他自己的50 free的seed慢了将近1秒。因为seed时间太久，有人说他的
50 free已经比50 fly还慢。
50 fly感觉不太乐观，如果他不憋气。加上没有转身，更加不乐观。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 丫就是为了准备明年世界杯上50fly的。50fly比free记录慢2秒，根本不可能赢。
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 4
他fly的特点就是半程落后，转身蝶腿冲刺。50fly没啥优势，这次50free试一下应该很
明显。
还是回去搞100-200fly，和200IM靠谱。
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 他这次50 fly比他自己的50 free的seed慢了将近1秒。因为seed时间太久，有人说他的
: 50 free已经比50 fly还慢。
: 50 fly感觉不太乐观，如果他不憋气。加上没有转身，更加不乐观。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 5 100和200fly的选手不少人有这个特点。le clos的比赛，经常前半程排第三第四。
估计phelps粉丝必须看到他输的一塌糊涂才能死心。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 他fly的特点就是半程落后，转身蝶腿冲刺。50fly没啥优势，这次50free试一下应该很
: 明显。
: 还是回去搞100-200fly，和200IM靠谱。
| m****z
发帖数: 978 | 6 看 53“，飞鱼咋出池子的。太smooth。BSO一下强大的背阔肌
。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 丫就是为了准备明年世界杯上50fly的。50fly比free记录慢2秒，根本不可能赢。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 7 再顺便赞一下adrian，状态真好，50和100都拿了第一
【在 m****z 的大作中提到】
: 看 53“，飞鱼咋出池子的。太smooth。BSO一下强大的背阔肌
: 。
| l*p
发帖数: 48 | 8 我特别赞同训练质量是王道这一说。比赛其实不难，一百米就结束了，难得的是保持高
质量的训练。每天游一万多米，早上下午两次训练，真的很枯燥和辛苦。但训练质量决
定一切。所谓艺高人胆大指的就是如果平常你训练质量高，上了赛场你不会慌的。你清
楚你的实力，每天训练时你把每段游程的细节都安排好，不停地重复，就象投篮一样，
把它格式化，固定化，到了比赛时你的任务就是重播。MP是天才，但他是最刻苦的天才
。他曾经的生活是一周七天训练，甚至节假日都不休息。他的有氧和无氧能力都超群，
出发，转身，到边无一不精。真正的游泳巨星是能把二百米蝶和四百米混合泳游好的人
。这二项对身体素质，体能，力量，速度，耐力，技术的要术是最严的。几乎没有人能
同时统治一百米和二百米蝶，因为一个需要无氧能力，力量和速度，另一个要求有氧能
力，体能和耐力。四百米混合泳同样的难度，要求內外兼修，更加全面的技术和体能。
不知道什么原因，自由泳仰泳好的选手蛙泳不行，而蛙泳恰恰是左右四百米混合泳的关
键。因为游到第三个百米时体能的极限悄悄来了，这时是一个槛。 如果蛙泳是强项，
你很容易超越其他人或进一步拉开距离，同时调整好体能， 为最后一个百米沖刺做准
备。
phelps
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: phelps这次游了100m fly和50m free（用50m fly游的）。后者据说是打酱油，我想他
: 的50 fr应该不至于已经慢于50 fly。本文要说的是前者。
: 从外形看，phelps的肩背比以前小了一圈，肚子有没有肥肉看不太清楚。
: 输给lochte也不让人意外。lochte虽然年长一岁，但是据说训练很刻苦，没有像phelps
: 一样三天打鱼两天晒网。去年世锦赛100 fly半决赛，lochte还创了他个人最好成绩。
: phelps vs lochte的这次对决，主要看点有两个，phelps的划水和到边。
: phelps第一段用了16个strokes，比他2012年多了一个。虽然他跳发（这个跳发略显业
: 余，有抬头动作，他过去从来没有出现过，至少因此输半尺）之后出水比2012年早了一
: 点，但是看他到边前最后一次划水超长滑行，基本可以肯定他的每划前进距离缩短了。
: 前进中的速度顿挫比2012年明显的多，和2009年身着快速泳衣创WR更是没法比。而且一
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 9 蛙泳对无氧爆发力要求高，其他三种主要是有氧耐力和无氧耐力。400IM蛙泳段结束，
如果最后一段自由泳成绩如果太好，很有可能会被说吃药。
【在 l*p 的大作中提到】
: 我特别赞同训练质量是王道这一说。比赛其实不难，一百米就结束了，难得的是保持高
: 质量的训练。每天游一万多米，早上下午两次训练，真的很枯燥和辛苦。但训练质量决
: 定一切。所谓艺高人胆大指的就是如果平常你训练质量高，上了赛场你不会慌的。你清
: 楚你的实力，每天训练时你把每段游程的细节都安排好，不停地重复，就象投篮一样，
: 把它格式化，固定化，到了比赛时你的任务就是重播。MP是天才，但他是最刻苦的天才
: 。他曾经的生活是一周七天训练，甚至节假日都不休息。他的有氧和无氧能力都超群，
: 出发，转身，到边无一不精。真正的游泳巨星是能把二百米蝶和四百米混合泳游好的人
: 。这二项对身体素质，体能，力量，速度，耐力，技术的要术是最严的。几乎没有人能
: 同时统治一百米和二百米蝶，因为一个需要无氧能力，力量和速度，另一个要求有氧能
: 力，体能和耐力。四百米混合泳同样的难度，要求內外兼修，更加全面的技术和体能。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 10 转发
5 REASONS WHY MICHAEL PHELPS WILL BE FASTER
Published:May 7, 2014
Michael Phelps at Mesa Grand Prix 2014
Courtesy of: Azaria Basile
Commentary by Steven V. Selthoffer, Chief European Columnist
Michael Phelps stepped up on the blocks with a smile on his face during the
first comeback swim of his return to the sport. It was good to see. He
qualified for finals and finished with a top eight time in the world in the
100 fly, second to friend and teammate Ryan Lochte.
It marked Phelps' return to the sport. However, it's one thing to enter some
races to "just have fun," and it's another thing to make a full-blown "
commitment" to go all-out for Rio 2016. The second aspect is a long and
difficult process that is personal and different in many ways for every
human being on the planet.
It takes a lot of soul searching and personal adjusting, to make a new
commitment back under Bob Bowman, when you know what it will take, when you
have grown accustomed to freedom, life, rejuvenation and new relationships.
But, if Michael Phelps does decide to go "all out," he will be better and
faster than he ever was. His best sprinting days are ahead of him.
Why?
1) Taper versus Recovery
Because Phelps has recovered. He's put on some weight and feels good. He's
enjoying the freedom.
There is a major difference between a "taper" and "recovery," and there are
very few scientific studies done on it. While the research is weak, we do
have some good examples.
As we all know, a taper is what occurs for a time period (a few weeks) prior
to a major targeted meet, such as Nationals, Euros, Worlds or Olympics. It
is when the quality and quantity of workouts decrease so the body begins to
rest, and rejuvenate so that the athlete can reach peak human performance (
PHP) at the targeted time/meet.
Recovery on the other hand, is when an athlete "quits" swimming, or when
after Nationals, a swimmer takes "time off" usually three-six weeks or the
summer, or even years before returning to workouts or a meet. The body has
had time to "recover," all of the biological systems are no longer under the
stress loads/factors and athletes usually put on some extra weight, they
feel better, are happier, and are a lot more light-hearted towards any
training or meets.
I learned this years ago after taking some "time off" after Nationals. My
coaches had entered me in another meet for "fun," and it resulted in some
personal records making qualifying times very early for the next season. I
learned something that day and stored it away.
Then, there was a second instance after my swimming career was over at
Indiana. I entered a meet in Colorado, two years after my swim career had
ended, and only after working out for a few months, more off than on, I swam
some personal record splits in a few 50's. The light clicked on a second
time.
I knew I was on to something. It was at this point that I learned there was
a major difference between tapering and recovery, and it affected sprinting,
raw speed the most.
However, making a scientific premise on Peak Human Performance (PHP) based
on yourself is rarely a good idea.
But, there is another case that can stand the close scientific scrutiny-
Anthony Ervin.
The Anthony Ervin comeback
How and why Anthony Ervin came back to swimming is a combination of factors
and a textbook case of peak human performance and personal excellence.
Anthony Ervin walked away from the sport at the (first) peak of his career
at California. Listening to his own comments, he said he had nothing more to
prove to himself and wanted to move on. He needed the freedom to grow. Then
, later he also had years to recover before entering the water again.
The second part of his recovery was just as important- personal excellence.
It was all about a relationship between Anthony Ervin and Mike Bottom.
Notice I didn't say "between a swimmer and a coach." Mike doesn't coach "
swimmers," he coaches people. Individuals. It is always about what is best
for the individual with Mike.
When Anthony came back to the sport, he attributed his comeback success to
Mike Bottom, who 12 years earlier said, "Hey, buddy. I support you 100%. I'm
behind you. If there is anything I can do for you, just let me know..."
Anthony said, Mike gave him the freedom to go, to grow, the freedom to move
on, to discover new things, to swim in difference places with different
coaches. That unconditional support was what it was all about with Mike in
the relationship. Not athletic performance.
And that is what brought the peak human performance and new best times out
of Anthony Ervin 12 years later swimming for Dave Durden, when swimming
became "fun again" in front of a delirious and screaming crowd watching him
make the U.S. Olympic team again this time for London 2012. He's given
credit multiple times to Mike for his second career.
2) Bowman is better
Michael Phelps will be faster because Bob Bowman is a better coach. Everyone
closely studies the athletes. I like to study the coaches. Bob Bowman has
an insatiable appetite to learn new things, not just learning for the sake
of learning, but, what is directly applicable new "truth" for the welfare of
the people around him and for the athletes in the pool.
Famous UCLA basketball coach, John Wooden, after retiring for many years was
asked how he would do, comparing his string of undefeated seasons and 12
NCAA championships against today's top coaches and teams. Wooden replied
that he'd do even better. Because he was a better person and a coach,
because he had time to learn more things and how to apply that to training
his players.
The same is true with Bowman. He knows when to rest/recover and when to walk
away. When it comes to coaching, Bowman will always do the right thing. He
might make some minor errors in his own estimation and self-evaluation. He
explores many different things on many different levels. Sometimes
experimenting here and sometimes there with that, as all great coaches do.
BUT, in the really big picture when you look at all the pieces over time,
Bowman does the right things right, when it really matters - all the time.
And that includes making radical changes, and taking large but, calculated
risks.
Phelps will be faster because he has the freedom he needs to grow, and
because Bowman does not idolize the past. He knows that he has a different
set of emotional, personal and physical parameters and protocols to deal
with in Michael and the team, and now he is carefully analyzing and
assembling the pieces and the unknowns of the way forward. Also, his
personal radar is looking for new answers and new ways of doing things. Like
Bottom, with Bowman, it's all about the relationships. It's always about
what is best for Michael or Yannick Agnel, or Tom Luchsinger or Allison
Schmitt.
Many organizations and teams have "Most Improved" awards they give out at
banquets. Why not award it to a coach? Like Bowman? I think he deserves it
more than Agnel, Schmitt or Phelps at this point in time.
3) Phelps' sprinting will be much better
Yes. It's true. Welcome to our world. Despite what Michael might feel now,
as time goes on, he'll be pleasantly surprised. But, he'll have to learn a
few new things to get the raw speed that is in there.
Suddenly, swimmers like Therese Alshammar have new meaning. There is a new
appreciation for her. How could she be at the top of her game, always
threatening a world record in any race for the past 12? 16 years? Whoa!!! In
50s and 100s free/fly? How does she do that? Suddenly, sprinters have a new
respect. That's spelled R.E.S.P.E.C.T. Many thought we weren't serious. We
didn't work out as hard as the 400 and distance guys.
Learning to sprint is a whole new world. To really "go," you have to learn
that the 100 free or 100 fly is not a "100." It's two "50's" back to back.
There is a major difference there and how you train. The Dutch understand
that. How Michael will train now will be different than training for 17
races each in Beijing and London.
Michael Phelps will be faster because he is going to learn how to really
sprint. He will train in a new way for the 100s and there will be a lot of
people now willing and wanting to help.
4) Better internal emotional control
Phelps will be faster because he has had time to mature and adjust,
resulting in better internal emotional control. I'm talking internally. He
is already a fine young man (and you can give a lot of credit to Bob for
that).
Phelps is a great person to be around. He knows his stuff. You can't
intimidate him. He doesn't play games. But, with everyone there are personal
emotional areas that sap your strength and where your internal emotions
sometimes spike up and down more frequently, or "turn on" too early. That
won't happen as much anymore. Phelps will be freer emotionally, more "whole"
and as a result, much more in control and therefore, much faster. Phelps'
will be aware of, and more in control of his "on/off" switch.
Taking and making small steps to a goal is cerebral. It's worked before. But
, as you get older, and focus on the 50s and 100s in sprinting, emotions
play a much greater role, maintaining and getting those right takes new
analysis and more effort.
When does a race begin? There is little scientific work done in this area,
but, it deserves some serious scientific thought. If we placed heart
monitors on swimmers/athletes for months at a time we might find out that
for some athletes, their heart rate begins to fluctuate and change higher a
week or days out from the actual race. Internally, they are already spending
energy "racing." They are nervous the week before a big race, burning ATP.
To others, they don't start to "focus" until maybe a short time before the
race. And, they are the ones who blast out.
Case in point. Usain Bolt. When I first saw Usain Bolt run a 100m, it was
for his school boy championships when he was still very young. He was having
fun. Totally loose. Carefree and just smiling and joking around.
To some people, that would be considered "not serious." But, I saw someone
who had the ability to "conserve it all" and then "focus" everything
mentally, emotionally, and physically bringing it together to a head, so
quickly... He focused. Bang! Race over. He won. But, at that second, when he
was behind the blocks compared to the others, I knew he would be a world
record holder and Olympic champion someday. The smile gave it away. The
looseness. Great sprinters have a lot of confidence. They're loose. They
know they can blow it out in the 100s when they have too. The same will be
true for Michael, he'll be a lot looser. He already is.
5) "I'm doing it for myself. It's fun."
Phelps' best days sprinting the 100s (and maybe 200s if he goes there) are
still ahead of him. This time he's doing it for himself. He knows what he
needs to do to work out, and where to get it. Also, the fun, the joy of
competing is back. Joy is inseparable from Peak Human Performance.
Everyone has an internal clock that is ticking. It tells us personally when
it is time to hang it up for competitive swimming. Michael's clock is still
ticking. That's good for him and everyone else.
As he returns to the pool and working out more, Phelps will learn how to
sprint better. How to really become the sprinter that he can be. And, when
he has learned a few new things, he will do some amazing performances the
world has never seen before. Guaranteed. How fast? If he makes the all-out
commitment to Rio...
The best is yet to come.
phelps
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: phelps这次游了100m fly和50m free（用50m fly游的）。后者据说是打酱油，我想他
: 的50 fr应该不至于已经慢于50 fly。本文要说的是前者。
: 从外形看，phelps的肩背比以前小了一圈，肚子有没有肥肉看不太清楚。
: 输给lochte也不让人意外。lochte虽然年长一岁，但是据说训练很刻苦，没有像phelps
: 一样三天打鱼两天晒网。去年世锦赛100 fly半决赛，lochte还创了他个人最好成绩。
: phelps vs lochte的这次对决，主要看点有两个，phelps的划水和到边。
: phelps第一段用了16个strokes，比他2012年多了一个。虽然他跳发（这个跳发略显业
: 余，有抬头动作，他过去从来没有出现过，至少因此输半尺）之后出水比2012年早了一
: 点，但是看他到边前最后一次划水超长滑行，基本可以肯定他的每划前进距离缩短了。
: 前进中的速度顿挫比2012年明显的多，和2009年身着快速泳衣创WR更是没法比。而且一
| | | l*p
发帖数: 48 | 11 麦克是不是快三十了？年龄永远是一个主要的制约因素。年龄大了，就更加难保持高质
量的训练水平，因为训练之后的恢复慢了，恢复一慢，训练的强度，密度和连贯性就打
折扣，比赛成绩马上受影响。虽然心里这样认为，但是我还是期待着麦克的王者归来！
the
the
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 转发
: 5 REASONS WHY MICHAEL PHELPS WILL BE FASTER
: Published:May 7, 2014
: Michael Phelps at Mesa Grand Prix 2014
: Courtesy of: Azaria Basile
: Commentary by Steven V. Selthoffer, Chief European Columnist
: Michael Phelps stepped up on the blocks with a smile on his face during the
: first comeback swim of his return to the sport. It was good to see. He
: qualified for finals and finished with a top eight time in the world in the
: 100 fly, second to friend and teammate Ryan Lochte.
| f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 12 http://youtu.be/E9ZNLyx7_Hw
phelps
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: phelps这次游了100m fly和50m free（用50m fly游的）。后者据说是打酱油，我想他
: 的50 fr应该不至于已经慢于50 fly。本文要说的是前者。
: 从外形看，phelps的肩背比以前小了一圈，肚子有没有肥肉看不太清楚。
: 输给lochte也不让人意外。lochte虽然年长一岁，但是据说训练很刻苦，没有像phelps
: 一样三天打鱼两天晒网。去年世锦赛100 fly半决赛，lochte还创了他个人最好成绩。
: phelps vs lochte的这次对决，主要看点有两个，phelps的划水和到边。
: phelps第一段用了16个strokes，比他2012年多了一个。虽然他跳发（这个跳发略显业
: 余，有抬头动作，他过去从来没有出现过，至少因此输半尺）之后出水比2012年早了一
: 点，但是看他到边前最后一次划水超长滑行，基本可以肯定他的每划前进距离缩短了。
: 前进中的速度顿挫比2012年明显的多，和2009年身着快速泳衣创WR更是没法比。而且一
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 13 看泳池里一大片，帽子上都是phelps……
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: http://youtu.be/E9ZNLyx7_Hw
:
: phelps
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 14 lochte比他还大一岁，当年popov30岁+状态也不错。但愿phelps能稍微勤奋一点。
【在 l*p 的大作中提到】
: 麦克是不是快三十了？年龄永远是一个主要的制约因素。年龄大了，就更加难保持高质
: 量的训练水平，因为训练之后的恢复慢了，恢复一慢，训练的强度，密度和连贯性就打
: 折扣，比赛成绩马上受影响。虽然心里这样认为，但是我还是期待着麦克的王者归来！
:
: the
: the
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 15 飞鱼本周末再show。如果这个预测靠谱，200米将比他的巅峰速度慢4秒多，英雄迟暮的
感觉。而且会输给孙杨一秒多。
=================
After watching the 100 fly final at the 2012 Olympic Trials, I left Omaha
feeling honored to have witnessed Phelps' final swim on American soil. Now,
I feel privileged to see him swim again, this time on a much lesser stage.
Phelps has entered the 200 free and 100 fly, both events to be contested on
Friday, but North Baltimore coach Bob Bowman indicated that he may only swim
one of the two. Bowman and Phelps could announce their plans at a press
conference today, scheduled for 3pm. With Ryan Lochte scratching the meet,
Phelps would face a much easier route to victory in the 100 fly, with few
contenders outside of Tim Phillips, Eugene Godsoe, and Albert Subirats.
In the 200 free, Phelps' training partner and World and Olympic champion
Yannick Agnel leads the field, with guys such as Matt McLean, Conor Dwyer,
Charlie Houchin, and Michael Klueh in the field. If Phelps wants a true test
to where he stands in his comeback, he would compete in the final of the
200 free. When I appeared on the Morning Swim Show prior to the Grand Prix
in Mesa, I predicted the times that would indicate "success" for Phelps, so
here goes again: 1:47-high in the 200 free and anything faster than the 52.
13 he swam in the 100 fly in Mesa. Still, I doubt Phelps swims both races
tomorrow, at least not in the finals session. | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 16 ledecky也开始游200米自，目前世界排名第四，游法和当年pehlps的200米自完全一样
，在女子里独树一帜。ledecky只有17岁，但愿她成为女phelps。 | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 17 据说ledecky 8年前的照片
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: ledecky也开始游200米自，目前世界排名第四，游法和当年pehlps的200米自完全一样
: ，在女子里独树一帜。ledecky只有17岁，但愿她成为女phelps。
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 18
franklin像女phelps。
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: ledecky也开始游200米自，目前世界排名第四，游法和当年pehlps的200米自完全一样
: ，在女子里独树一帜。ledecky只有17岁，但愿她成为女phelps。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 19 我总觉得franklin没有灵气，喜欢不起来。平心而论，她的进步确实很大，特别是蛙泳
。在成绩和项目上也许可以接近phelps。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: franklin像女phelps。
| l*p
发帖数: 48 | 20 孙杨的身体条件绝不输給顶尖的欧美选手。 他的体型是可以拼短距离的。只要他多花
时间摸索短距离的游法，掌握好出发，转身，水下蝶泳腿，到边的技术，他完全有机会
统治二百米和冲一百米。中国队以前有一个上海选手叫蒋承谡身高近二米，曾经是五十
米自和一百米蝶的奥运会第四名。
,
on
swim
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 飞鱼本周末再show。如果这个预测靠谱，200米将比他的巅峰速度慢4秒多，英雄迟暮的
: 感觉。而且会输给孙杨一秒多。
: =================
: After watching the 100 fly final at the 2012 Olympic Trials, I left Omaha
: feeling honored to have witnessed Phelps' final swim on American soil. Now,
: I feel privileged to see him swim again, this time on a much lesser stage.
: Phelps has entered the 200 free and 100 fly, both events to be contested on
: Friday, but North Baltimore coach Bob Bowman indicated that he may only swim
: one of the two. Bowman and Phelps could announce their plans at a press
: conference today, scheduled for 3pm. With Ryan Lochte scratching the meet,
| | | y**c
发帖数: 6307 | 21 我记得这个蒋丞稷，他后来就消失了。
【在 l*p 的大作中提到】
: 孙杨的身体条件绝不输給顶尖的欧美选手。 他的体型是可以拼短距离的。只要他多花
: 时间摸索短距离的游法，掌握好出发，转身，水下蝶泳腿，到边的技术，他完全有机会
: 统治二百米和冲一百米。中国队以前有一个上海选手叫蒋承谡身高近二米，曾经是五十
: 米自和一百米蝶的奥运会第四名。
:
: ,
: on
: swim
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 22 孙杨得好好练练打水。出发、转身之类，只要思想上重视起来问题就不大。
【在 l*p 的大作中提到】
: 孙杨的身体条件绝不输給顶尖的欧美选手。 他的体型是可以拼短距离的。只要他多花
: 时间摸索短距离的游法，掌握好出发，转身，水下蝶泳腿，到边的技术，他完全有机会
: 统治二百米和冲一百米。中国队以前有一个上海选手叫蒋承谡身高近二米，曾经是五十
: 米自和一百米蝶的奥运会第四名。
:
: ,
: on
: swim
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 23 中国那个时代还基本上是粗线条
【在 y**c 的大作中提到】
: 我记得这个蒋丞稷，他后来就消失了。
| y**c
发帖数: 6307 | 24 我最后看到的消息是说他骑摩托车把手弄伤了，教练被气死。
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 中国那个时代还基本上是粗线条
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 25 听起来和老铁转发的某IM大叔训练时接水瓶子造成骨折差不多
说到受伤恢复最牛的，看波波夫：
One month after the Atlanta Olympics, he was stabbed in the abdomen with a
knife during a dispute with three Moscow street vendors. The knife sliced
his artery, grazed one of his kidneys and damaged the pleura, the membrane
that encases the lungs. He had emergency surgery and spent three months in
rehabilitation. At the 1997 European Championships in Seville, Spain, he
successfully defended his 50 m and 100 m freestyle titles.
【在 y**c 的大作中提到】
: 我最后看到的消息是说他骑摩托车把手弄伤了，教练被气死。
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 26
他和乐靖宜谈恋爱，一起得肝炎住院。那时上海队卫生水平真够呛。
【在 y**c 的大作中提到】
: 我最后看到的消息是说他骑摩托车把手弄伤了，教练被气死。
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 27
她个子太大肚子太圆，不cute啊。
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 我总觉得franklin没有灵气，喜欢不起来。平心而论，她的进步确实很大，特别是蛙泳
: 。在成绩和项目上也许可以接近phelps。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 28 看着有点笨重，但是水里训练demo的几下子还是蛮灵活的
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 她个子太大肚子太圆，不cute啊。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 29 吃半生不熟的东西得的病？
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 她个子太大肚子太圆，不cute啊。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 30 飞鱼总算2012年奥运之后又品尝了冠军的滋味。感谢lochte退赛。
===========================
CHARLOTTE, North Carolina, May 16. FOR the first time since taking nearly
two months away from the sport, the Greatest of All Time Michael Phelps
tasted his first victory in a competition as he snared the men's 100-meter
fly title at the Arena Grand Prix in Charlotte.
Phelps posted a 52.13 to win the championship heat, matching his sixth-
ranked time from the Mesa stop at the Arena Grand Prix, demonstrating that
he has some strong consistency even in this early form in his comeback.
Tonight's win is his first since the 2012 London Olympics, even though he's
still not too thrilled with the time based his post-race interview. | | | l*****z
发帖数: 13617 | 31 记得蒋承稷，身材很帅的，后来还有熊国鸣几个，后来那几个吃药把生涯断送了，可惜
。。。
【在 l*p 的大作中提到】
: 孙杨的身体条件绝不输給顶尖的欧美选手。 他的体型是可以拼短距离的。只要他多花
: 时间摸索短距离的游法，掌握好出发，转身，水下蝶泳腿，到边的技术，他完全有机会
: 统治二百米和冲一百米。中国队以前有一个上海选手叫蒋承谡身高近二米，曾经是五十
: 米自和一百米蝶的奥运会第四名。
:
: ,
: on
: swim
| l*****z
发帖数: 13617 | 32 不会是吃毛蚶得的甲肝吧？
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 吃半生不熟的东西得的病？
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 33
老蒋现在身材更好，流线型。
【在 l*****z 的大作中提到】
: 记得蒋承稷，身材很帅的，后来还有熊国鸣几个，后来那几个吃药把生涯断送了，可惜
: 。。。
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 34
以前中国肝炎带病率很高，一不小心就感染，还有号称吃出兴奋剂的。上海给刘翔空运
外国牛排有原因。
【在 l*****z 的大作中提到】
: 不会是吃毛蚶得的甲肝吧？
| h*******s
发帖数: 3094 | | s****e
发帖数: 914 | 36 哪个是蒋？
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 以前中国肝炎带病率很高，一不小心就感染，还有号称吃出兴奋剂的。上海给刘翔空运
: 外国牛排有原因。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 37 要说阻力，胖子的阻力没准真的更小一点
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 以前中国肝炎带病率很高，一不小心就感染，还有号称吃出兴奋剂的。上海给刘翔空运
: 外国牛排有原因。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 38 左边的
【在 s****e 的大作中提到】
: 哪个是蒋？
| s****e
发帖数: 914 | 39 右边谭咏麟？
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 左边的
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 40 不认识，有点像
【在 s****e 的大作中提到】
: 右边谭咏麟？
| | | T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 41
是个啥记者。
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 不认识，有点像
| l*****z
发帖数: 13617 | 42 一点也认不出来啦！岁月啊~~~~
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 是个啥记者。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 43 光头真心不好看
【在 l*****z 的大作中提到】
: 一点也认不出来啦！岁月啊~~~~
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 44
中年脱发啊，有啥好发型能推荐？
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 光头真心不好看
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 45 老蒋是70后（76？），这也脱的太早了一点
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 中年脱发啊，有啥好发型能推荐？
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