E*****n
发帖数: 7961 | 1 Hello to all you traders out there. I'm starting this page out of the
recommendation of other traders in the community.
I hesitated on doing this but I literally owe Etrade $106,445.56 as of this
moment what would you do if you were in my situation? I'll do whats needed
and sell what I have to get them paid but if someone feels my pain and is
willing to help out---who am I to say no?
If you don't want to donate I understand, at least read my story of what
happened today and protect yourself from the same happening to you! This is
a terrible lesson for me but if this helps just one person than I'm happy I
wrote this.
I'm a fairly new trader, been trading since about March of this year. I
have learned alot about the community and trading...well not enough about
trading as you will soon hear.
I have a fairly small account, but its over PDT. As of this morning it was
$37,000. I keep it small because I wanted to manage risk, the most I can
afford to lose is what I have in the account....$37,000. When I get some
profits I take them out of the account because I wouldn't want to lose more
than $37k.
I was holding KBIO short overnight for what I thought was a nice $2.00 fade
coming. At the close of the bell I saw the quote montage clear out and
figured today there was no action after hours in the stock. So I went to my
office for a long meeting. I got out of the meeting and saw a message from
one of my buddys, he asked if I was ok since I was short KBIO....my heart
dropped. "Shoot did I blow up my account, everything I worked for? I don'
t want to lose all $37,000 that would be terrible." ---It was much worse.
The stock was at $16 and my account was negative over 100k. I figured it
was a mistake, Etrade would never let that happen, they must have cut the
position when my account got to $0....nope. I immediately called them and
they confirmed I still owned all the shares. He says that it got out of
hand too fast for them to cover me, he says that all he can do right now is
cover. I was devistated. I asked him to cover at $16 and he waited trying
to find me a good exit. I told him to do it asap and the fill was around $
18.50 avg.
At the moment not only is my $37k gone, but I now owe ETrade the negative
balance of over $106k. I always knew I could blow up an account and I was
financially able to "afford" to lose the $37k. Never in my wildest dreams
did I imagine that Etrade would NOT have some sort of stop or circuit
breaker in place that would automatically cut a position if the account went
to $0.....how could they ever let it get to -$144k loss on a account that
small! Also, why did I have to call them to find out what was going on, why
did they not alert me or call me when it went neg???
I'm never one to ask for a handout and honestly I'm kinda not sure if I
should post this but here we go. I'm sure it will cause lots of
controversy on whether or not I deserve even a $1 donation but it doesn't
hurt to ask. Anything you traders can do to help me get a little out of
this hole would be a blessing for me. Anything donated will go 100% to
simply paying Etrade some of this $106,445.56.
My plan moving forward is to liquidate mine and wife's 401k's and try work
out a payment plan with Etrade. I'm also going to ask them to help out in
some way...thats a longshot. I will pay them and be back trading....only
with set stops this time. What an expensive lesson that was.
I hope my story helps someone else from the same.
Here are screenshots of the damage.
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E*****n
发帖数: 7961 | |
t**s
发帖数: 4026 | |
g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 4 做空,理论上可以亏无穷大。
this
needed
is
I
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: Hello to all you traders out there. I'm starting this page out of the
: recommendation of other traders in the community.
: I hesitated on doing this but I literally owe Etrade $106,445.56 as of this
: moment what would you do if you were in my situation? I'll do whats needed
: and sell what I have to get them paid but if someone feels my pain and is
: willing to help out---who am I to say no?
: If you don't want to donate I understand, at least read my story of what
: happened today and protect yourself from the same happening to you! This is
: a terrible lesson for me but if this helps just one person than I'm happy I
: wrote this.
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l*********m
发帖数: 16971 | 5 it is $10.65 now.
this
needed
is
I
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: Hello to all you traders out there. I'm starting this page out of the
: recommendation of other traders in the community.
: I hesitated on doing this but I literally owe Etrade $106,445.56 as of this
: moment what would you do if you were in my situation? I'll do whats needed
: and sell what I have to get them paid but if someone feels my pain and is
: willing to help out---who am I to say no?
: If you don't want to donate I understand, at least read my story of what
: happened today and protect yourself from the same happening to you! This is
: a terrible lesson for me but if this helps just one person than I'm happy I
: wrote this.
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E*****n
发帖数: 7961 | 6
这就是一个典型的例子
特别是烧这种垃圾股
盘子这么小
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: 做空,理论上可以亏无穷大。
:
: this
: needed
: is
: I
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l********i
发帖数: 2503 | 7 已经被强行平仓了，即使跌下去也无可挽回了。这哥们想从２.０７烧到２，就这么点
利润也看得上，而且烧的是药股，结果被爆仓了
【在 l*********m 的大作中提到】
: it is $10.65 now.
:
: this
: needed
: is
: I
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B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 8 烧10块钱以下的股票，基本脑子都坏掉了，从很高的位置一直short下来的另当别论。 |
l********i
发帖数: 2503 | 9 即使是反向收购，这个股也不应该涨这么多，全是炒作 |
E*****n
发帖数: 7961 | 10
应该是小庄 看到有机可乘
这些家伙也够狠的
【在 l********i 的大作中提到】
: 即使是反向收购，这个股也不应该涨这么多，全是炒作
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y***t
发帖数: 644 | 11 Etrade能借到烧？今早试了Scotrade和TD, 都借不到。 |
B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 12 今天早上我也试了也借不到，昨天应该还行。
【在 y***t 的大作中提到】
: Etrade能借到烧？今早试了Scotrade和TD, 都借不到。
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D*********t
发帖数: 5748 | 13 这些都是命
可能楼主前天晚上吃了一只烤鸡，今天自己就被烤焦了
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
:
: 应该是小庄 看到有机可乘
: 这些家伙也够狠的
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l********i
发帖数: 2503 | 14 昨天借到那你就惨了
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 今天早上我也试了也借不到，昨天应该还行。
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B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 15 昨天我不可能借，这么低价再烧绝对脑子秀逗了，今天早上我是想烧因为这种事件多了
我知道会下来可是借不到。
【在 l********i 的大作中提到】
: 昨天借到那你就惨了
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l********i
发帖数: 2503 | 16 我看昨天盘后７刀的时候还有人要烧的，也是没借到，有时候烂券商还做了好事啦，哈哈
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 昨天我不可能借，这么低价再烧绝对脑子秀逗了，今天早上我是想烧因为这种事件多了
: 我知道会下来可是借不到。
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B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 17 盘后7刀说明有大事，得等等到底什么事才能决定是不是烧，如果是new drug approval
今天谁烧谁傻逼，哈哈。
哈哈
【在 l********i 的大作中提到】
: 我看昨天盘后７刀的时候还有人要烧的，也是没借到，有时候烂券商还做了好事啦，哈哈
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P********y
发帖数: 4195 | 18 无知者无畏
都他妈是古板害的。天天就知道忽悠青蛙，没一点指导和知识
[在 Einhorn (静待时机) 的大作中提到：]
：Hello to all you traders out there. I'm starting this page out of the
：recommendation of other traders in the community.
：........... |
m********3
发帖数: 2125 | 19 对烧股票的我没有任何同情。
自己的股票经常被这些人烧得要割肉。
this
needed
is
I
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: Hello to all you traders out there. I'm starting this page out of the
: recommendation of other traders in the community.
: I hesitated on doing this but I literally owe Etrade $106,445.56 as of this
: moment what would you do if you were in my situation? I'll do whats needed
: and sell what I have to get them paid but if someone feels my pain and is
: willing to help out---who am I to say no?
: If you don't want to donate I understand, at least read my story of what
: happened today and protect yourself from the same happening to you! This is
: a terrible lesson for me but if this helps just one person than I'm happy I
: wrote this.
|
P********y
发帖数: 4195 | 20 无知者无畏
都他妈是古板害的。天天就知道忽悠青蛙，没一点指导和知识
[在 Einhorn (静待时机) 的大作中提到：]
：Hello to all you traders out there. I'm starting this page out of the
：recommendation of other traders in the community.
：........... |
|
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E*****n
发帖数: 7961 | 21
哈哈 是滴 典型的操纵
散户就是被鱼肉的命
这种股就应该搞风云大师那种 不停捞 慢慢捂
很多那种看了别人烧就跟着烧的 还选了这种垃圾股来操作的 基本上就是这下场
【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】
: 这些都是命
: 可能楼主前天晚上吃了一只烤鸡，今天自己就被烤焦了
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s******s
发帖数: 1793 | 22 够蠢的,空这种低价股,而且一点保护都没有.赌不起就不要赌,我空的几只股票今年损失
8/9万,我马上从多仓捞回来了,对我来讲一点皮毛.三万的仓为,最多赌十分之一.活该啊.
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: https://www.gofundme.com/jwctrek
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s******s
发帖数: 1793 | 23 有人捐了$1,506,还不如扔水了,也够蠢的.
Despite the backlash, they also offered some cash. After nine hours, 45
people had helped Campbell’s page raise more than $1,506. Still a long way
to go, but it’s something. |
y**2
发帖数: 66 | 24 拍拍
以後要學到教訓就好了
希望你可以趕快解決這件事情
還有這位哥們已經很慘了
大家就給他建議就好了 精神上安慰他一下
不認同他的操作也可以好好給建議
為什麼要落井下石講些難聽話?
古板不就是讓大家分享經驗 學習好操作 記取錯誤操作教訓的地方嗎?
如果每個錯誤操作post上來還要被這樣子冷嘲熱諷
那以後誰會願意來分享經驗?
老實說我覺得錯誤的操作經驗對版友是很有價值的
最受不了那種賺錢炫耀 然後不分享怎麼操作 沒有一點意義的貼文
說真的賺多少干我們P事阿 |
d*****g
发帖数: 978 | 25 patpat, 当年我做垃圾股也有过这种经历， 不过我是做多， 46M的小盘子最好不要碰,
搞一次这种的很久才能恢复元气
this
needed
is
I
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: Hello to all you traders out there. I'm starting this page out of the
: recommendation of other traders in the community.
: I hesitated on doing this but I literally owe Etrade $106,445.56 as of this
: moment what would you do if you were in my situation? I'll do whats needed
: and sell what I have to get them paid but if someone feels my pain and is
: willing to help out---who am I to say no?
: If you don't want to donate I understand, at least read my story of what
: happened today and protect yourself from the same happening to you! This is
: a terrible lesson for me but if this helps just one person than I'm happy I
: wrote this.
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j******x
发帖数: 383 | 26 昨天我差点就烧了
好庆幸啊
不过后来盘后到20的时候根本借不到股、、、、 |
B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 27 我今早想借也没借到。
【在 j******x 的大作中提到】
: 昨天我差点就烧了
: 好庆幸啊
: 不过后来盘后到20的时候根本借不到股、、、、
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s******s
发帖数: 1793 | 28 对犯这种错误的人要好好地骂,为什么,因为这就是所谓的见外婆,犯一次你就没得玩了,
点!
【在 y**2 的大作中提到】
: 拍拍
: 以後要學到教訓就好了
: 希望你可以趕快解決這件事情
: 還有這位哥們已經很慘了
: 大家就給他建議就好了 精神上安慰他一下
: 不認同他的操作也可以好好給建議
: 為什麼要落井下石講些難聽話?
: 古板不就是讓大家分享經驗 學習好操作 記取錯誤操作教訓的地方嗎?
: 如果每個錯誤操作post上來還要被這樣子冷嘲熱諷
: 那以後誰會願意來分享經驗?
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H*********n
发帖数: 1397 | 29 可以看到他short了多少股吗？
this
needed
is
I
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: Hello to all you traders out there. I'm starting this page out of the
: recommendation of other traders in the community.
: I hesitated on doing this but I literally owe Etrade $106,445.56 as of this
: moment what would you do if you were in my situation? I'll do whats needed
: and sell what I have to get them paid but if someone feels my pain and is
: willing to help out---who am I to say no?
: If you don't want to donate I understand, at least read my story of what
: happened today and protect yourself from the same happening to you! This is
: a terrible lesson for me but if this helps just one person than I'm happy I
: wrote this.
|
m********3
发帖数: 2125 | 30 9000股吧。
看前日是security 价值-1,8000
【在 H*********n 的大作中提到】
: 可以看到他short了多少股吗？
:
: this
: needed
: is
: I
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c*****v
发帖数: 839 | 31 Short 仓位一定要小。 这种垃圾股一般不是借不到Short吗。 |
j**1
发帖数: 27 | 32 The story is on Market Watch website now. The trader is Joe Campbell. |
L********m
发帖数: 108 | 33 你们讲的这些术语我都不懂啊，帐户里怎么能有负值啊？
啊.
【在 s******s 的大作中提到】
: 够蠢的,空这种低价股,而且一点保护都没有.赌不起就不要赌,我空的几只股票今年损失
: 8/9万,我马上从多仓捞回来了,对我来讲一点皮毛.三万的仓为,最多赌十分之一.活该啊.
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 34 这哥们10万估计还是有的，不行就搞个equity loan先把缺补上，即使一般工资水平，
10万存个两年也回来了。 |
s********g
发帖数: 951 | 35 KBIO最高才13.85.他怎么18.5 cover的？！ |
B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 36 cover in after-hour trading, I guess.
【在 s********g 的大作中提到】
: KBIO最高才13.85.他怎么18.5 cover的？！
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f***o
发帖数: 249 | |
T*R
发帖数: 36302 | |
j******x
发帖数: 383 | 39 昨天盘后最高20，今天早盘最高到过23
这个股两天前就在我的watchlilst里面了
昨天睡完午觉一看第一反应是是不是并股了，第二反应是是不是系统出错了，最后看了
新闻发现是真的暴涨了
吓得以后再也不敢烧股票了
上次的aqxp涨20倍，这次kbio，那个人烧其实是有一定道理的。因为kbio在3，4天前还
是9毛钱，然后暴涨到2块，然后已经出现下跌趋势了
【在 s********g 的大作中提到】
: KBIO最高才13.85.他怎么18.5 cover的？！
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l*****e
发帖数: 3343 | 40 所以玩3x,咳白粉和冰毒，还是比较安全，至多损失个10%。。。 |
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 41 英文网站到处都是了，惨啊
看了这厮的twitter，专门喜欢烧小药谷
JoeC @jwctrek
Calling it a day, still swinging $KBIO short and new short swing in $AVXL,
starter position. #pumpanddump +$718
12:51 PM - 18 Nov 2015 |
C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 42 被Martin Shkreli玩了，这个家伙是个有名的恶棍。
An investor group, which included controversial biotech CEO Martin Shkreli,
bought more than half of KaloBios' outstanding shares, sending the stock
price up more than 600% in the after-hours session.
The stock was last trading up more than 500% at $12.56 per share.
Campbell said that he feels "sick to his stomach" and that he's just trying
to "live a normal day."
Currently, Campbell has raised over $1,500.
Business Insider has reached out to E-Trade for comment and will update if
we hear back. |
E*****n
发帖数: 7961 | 43 Martin Schkrelin 就是典型的恶棍
这家伙弄了个公司。卖个药也是猛提价
现在来赚这种烂钱 |
W***n
发帖数: 11530 | 44 Hire a stock litigation lawyer.
They may be more responsive.. |
E*****n
发帖数: 7961 | 45 我转这个帖子的目的就是让大家看清楚
什么叫垃圾股的莫碰
至少不能在热门的时候去烧 |
W***n
发帖数: 11530 | 46
Shorting or longing crazy stocks is a sure way for financial ruin.
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我转这个帖子的目的就是让大家看清楚
: 什么叫垃圾股的莫碰
: 至少不能在热门的时候去烧
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d*******3
发帖数: 6550 | 47 闹这么大Etrade应该考虑自掏腰包，不然对自己的名声不太好 |
