由买买提看人间百态

boards

本页内容为未名空间相应帖子的节选和存档,一周内的贴子最多显示50字,超过一周显示500字 访问原贴
Stock版 - 如果RIMM和NOK 活过来了,对AAPL不利吧
相关主题
既生瑜, 何生亮?Demise of AAPL good for IT WSN
我不买RIMM的N个原因AMZN will surpass AAPL to become the largest company in terms of market value in 2016
我最近在花街发现的几个口交现象新高不客气
今天不说BP, 说说NOKaapl 会不会迎来巨大涨幅
不以股价论英雄[market] 大盘今天的收盘还是不错的
微软收购RIMM跟AAPL对决的几率多大?我对GOOG和市场的看法(看牛到9月OE)
AAPL的衰退速度将是NOK的两倍,RIMM的三倍Dec 11 大盘日记:领导你在哪里?
苹果就是下一个诺基亚,黑莓我想shot Apple stock
相关话题的讨论汇总
话题: aapl话题: nok话题: rimm话题: mark话题: apple
进入Stock版参与讨论
1 (共1页)
w*j
发帖数: 6104
1
毕竟都是老牌的。
U********f
发帖数: 2482
2
AAPL这么多的现金,不能空。一个回购就让你吃不消。

【在 w*j 的大作中提到】
: 毕竟都是老牌的。
k*****a
发帖数: 1463
3
Lots of cash is parked out side of U.S. AAPL won't be able to do much even
they buyback. Its market cap is too big for AAPL to take. Its buyback plan
will do nothing at its stock price. Buyback may work a bit while it crash to
$200.

【在 U********f 的大作中提到】
: AAPL这么多的现金,不能空。一个回购就让你吃不消。
c***n
发帖数: 588
4
If so, tell us how many shares of AAPL you have short at which price. LOL...
Let's check within next 2 months, not far for you.
k*****a
发帖数: 1463
5
I don't have any position on AAPL, altough I have been calling it a top
since $660, where I initiated NOK position.
In 2 year, you can mark this post and come back to see how AAPL is doing. My
bet is AAPL will shave at least 50% off, rather than ever seeing $1000 as
most aapl anal people is talking.
In 2 month, i think it is likely keep under 600 (given market could float it
up).

..

【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: If so, tell us how many shares of AAPL you have short at which price. LOL...
: Let's check within next 2 months, not far for you.

w*j
发帖数: 6104
6
明明是长线基本面分析,你偏看要2个月。
NOK,RIMM是跟AAPLE正面竞争的,不是山寨。对AAPL肯定有影响的。

..

【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: If so, tell us how many shares of AAPL you have short at which price. LOL...
: Let's check within next 2 months, not far for you.

c***n
发帖数: 588
7
OK, mark here, I also claim Nokia will bankrupt in 2 years, and this has
super infinite more chance than aapl going half price. let's see.
everybody can make a claim, LOL

My
it

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: I don't have any position on AAPL, altough I have been calling it a top
: since $660, where I initiated NOK position.
: In 2 year, you can mark this post and come back to see how AAPL is doing. My
: bet is AAPL will shave at least 50% off, rather than ever seeing $1000 as
: most aapl anal people is talking.
: In 2 month, i think it is likely keep under 600 (given market could float it
: up).
:
: ..

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
8
Mark your words here.
@Today, AAPL = 160 share of NOK,
In 2 years:
P(NOK=0. AAPL>=571) >> P(NOK3.56, AAPL=285)?
You loose the bet when AAPL/NOK<78 ?

【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: OK, mark here, I also claim Nokia will bankrupt in 2 years, and this has
: super infinite more chance than aapl going half price. let's see.
: everybody can make a claim, LOL
:
: My
: it

c***n
发帖数: 588
9
please do mark. By the way, nok is 3.x$, aapl is 571$.
Let's do this bet, I bet nok has far more chance of reducing to 1/2 or even
1/3 in stock price than aapl in two years.
Want to bet which stock first touch half price from now?
p*****t
发帖数: 3824
10
坐等RIMM和NOK被完爆
相关主题
微软收购RIMM跟AAPL对决的几率多大?Demise of AAPL good for IT WSN
AAPL的衰退速度将是NOK的两倍,RIMM的三倍AMZN will surpass AAPL to become the largest company in terms of market value in 2016
苹果就是下一个诺基亚,黑莓新高不客气
进入Stock版参与讨论
S****s
发帖数: 11288
11
我觉得NOK不好说,但是RIMM真心死翘翘了,现在就是回光返照而已
人鸡鸭现在好歹还有手机在出,RIMM的bb10世界末日前都看不到影子呢。
k*****a
发帖数: 1463
12
Did you accept defeat already? U were referring NOK going to bankrupt.
With forgiving your irrationality of bankruptcy, I offer this for you to
continue:
Whenever AAPL/NOK>=320, you win. I win if AAPL/NOK<=80.
At 2 year end, the split is AAPL/NOK=160.

even

【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: please do mark. By the way, nok is 3.x$, aapl is 571$.
: Let's do this bet, I bet nok has far more chance of reducing to 1/2 or even
: 1/3 in stock price than aapl in two years.
: Want to bet which stock first touch half price from now?

s*****e
发帖数: 16824
13
虽然我在赌nok, 但是长期来看,nok恢复的机会不大。可能能混下去,但是再次成为霸
主是没戏了。rimm基本上肯定完了。不过不管这俩恢复不恢复,appl多半都要完,三星
一家就能搞死它了。

【在 S****s 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得NOK不好说,但是RIMM真心死翘翘了,现在就是回光返照而已
: 人鸡鸭现在好歹还有手机在出,RIMM的bb10世界末日前都看不到影子呢。

C***n
发帖数: 452
14
Who care, I can claim whatever I want. Just like you don't play any money on
aapl while look down on it every day without taking any responsibility to
mislead people. At least I use real money to long aapl.
dare to bet which one first touch half? Since you have absolute confidence
in appl down and nok already down like shit to 3.x, i can still bet this
shit will down half again. if not dare, keep away!
Lol, who care whether nok will bankruptcy or not, I just see this shit will
down another half soon even to 0. I also claim this shit will lose big money
until bankruptcy., LOL

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Did you accept defeat already? U were referring NOK going to bankrupt.
: With forgiving your irrationality of bankruptcy, I offer this for you to
: continue:
: Whenever AAPL/NOK>=320, you win. I win if AAPL/NOK<=80.
: At 2 year end, the split is AAPL/NOK=160.
:
: even

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
15
Well, I made my choice of initiated my NOK longs at 2.60s, and then 2.50s
over buying AAPL shares, and called AAPL top around $660 with my previous
posts. I don't want to short any AAPL because there is other better place to
park money.
I don't see your logic of whining here. BTW, if "Who care(S)" then why do
you post here. Making a choice on NOK is exactly betting that NOK is taking
sales away from AAPL, and isn't it another way to play AAPL's demise?

on
will
money

【在 C***n 的大作中提到】
: Who care, I can claim whatever I want. Just like you don't play any money on
: aapl while look down on it every day without taking any responsibility to
: mislead people. At least I use real money to long aapl.
: dare to bet which one first touch half? Since you have absolute confidence
: in appl down and nok already down like shit to 3.x, i can still bet this
: shit will down half again. if not dare, keep away!
: Lol, who care whether nok will bankruptcy or not, I just see this shit will
: down another half soon even to 0. I also claim this shit will lose big money
: until bankruptcy., LOL

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
16
I think it is too early to predict NOK's future success level. However, the
dying AAPL will be good for a lot of competition to survive, and NOK is a
good enough player in the sector. NOK's post 2009 low is 9.+ where
everything is crashing. If NOK stabilize on its smartphone business, its
other business is able to justify at least 8-9 dollar valuation.

【在 S****s 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得NOK不好说,但是RIMM真心死翘翘了,现在就是回光返照而已
: 人鸡鸭现在好歹还有手机在出,RIMM的bb10世界末日前都看不到影子呢。

k**o
发帖数: 15334
17
这个同意,NOK还有希望,RIMM已经是dead man walking了。

【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: 虽然我在赌nok, 但是长期来看,nok恢复的机会不大。可能能混下去,但是再次成为霸
: 主是没戏了。rimm基本上肯定完了。不过不管这俩恢复不恢复,appl多半都要完,三星
: 一家就能搞死它了。

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
18
Dig the article up and mark it again.

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Did you accept defeat already? U were referring NOK going to bankrupt.
: With forgiving your irrationality of bankruptcy, I offer this for you to
: continue:
: Whenever AAPL/NOK>=320, you win. I win if AAPL/NOK<=80.
: At 2 year end, the split is AAPL/NOK=160.
:
: even

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
19
Mark this again -- AAPL's demise is good for whole industry, especially for
IT non-min.
NOK, RIMM all up.

the

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: I think it is too early to predict NOK's future success level. However, the
: dying AAPL will be good for a lot of competition to survive, and NOK is a
: good enough player in the sector. NOK's post 2009 low is 9.+ where
: everything is crashing. If NOK stabilize on its smartphone business, its
: other business is able to justify at least 8-9 dollar valuation.

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
20
Mark again, AAPL may soon to issue profit warning, along with significant
margin short fall.
IPAD mini pricing point is reducing pad profit of AAPL. Andriod is winning
iOS, IP5 not selling well, neither will be IP6, trend is down.
All other stock will rise from the loss of AAPL.

for

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Mark this again -- AAPL's demise is good for whole industry, especially for
: IT non-min.
: NOK, RIMM all up.
:
: the

相关主题
aapl 会不会迎来巨大涨幅Dec 11 大盘日记:领导你在哪里?
[market] 大盘今天的收盘还是不错的我想shot Apple stock
我对GOOG和市场的看法(看牛到9月OE)果子明天会大涨嘛
进入Stock版参与讨论
m*****i
发帖数: 4342
21
I disagree. Apple still makes pretty good product. The only problem is their
product is relative expensive.
If they can not sell their product, they will scrafice their margin. In that
case, no one can escape. The profit margin for other players will be
crashed.
Apple still will make lots of money not as much as before.

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Mark again, AAPL may soon to issue profit warning, along with significant
: margin short fall.
: IPAD mini pricing point is reducing pad profit of AAPL. Andriod is winning
: iOS, IP5 not selling well, neither will be IP6, trend is down.
: All other stock will rise from the loss of AAPL.
:
: for

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
22
Sacrifice margin does not mean higher sales. I think Andriod's win against
iOS is done deal. Although the number yet to surface, the trend is set.
Apple is not really a tech savy company, the lag will be bigger and bigger.
Hardware profit will be killed (look at DELL/HP/IBM, they used to own
hardware, and selling at a high margin. 10 years ago, HP makes big bucks
from $4000 a premium notebook. Once notebook is a commodity, what is the
pricing point now?).
In next 2-3 years, there will be too many handset to choose from. Even older
ones are good enough, smartphone will be almost same commodity product.
GOOG made perfect move against AAPL. AAPL's demise will be just
as fast as its resurrection. BTW, is IP5 better than 4S, really? Some
people rather have 4S. Given IP4S/5/5S/6/6S/7/.... in 2 years, with not many
difference, would you
need to buy another from AAPL? I would take a dip on some android or WP then.
Apple does not have much power (other than some fashion patent?) to buckle
the trend against a vast pool of
android participants.

their
that

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: I disagree. Apple still makes pretty good product. The only problem is their
: product is relative expensive.
: If they can not sell their product, they will scrafice their margin. In that
: case, no one can escape. The profit margin for other players will be
: crashed.
: Apple still will make lots of money not as much as before.

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
23
DIG up and mark.

【在 p*****t 的大作中提到】
: 坐等RIMM和NOK被完爆
k*****a
发帖数: 1463
24
AAPL/NOK=122 down from 165.
-25%. Target: -50%
k*****a
发帖数: 1463
25
AAPL/NOK=112
k*****a
发帖数: 1463
26
Half Checkpoint of the AAPL/NOK claim.
赚废了。

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: AAPL/NOK=112
k*****a
发帖数: 1463
27
AAPL/NOK=100.

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Half Checkpoint of the AAPL/NOK claim.
: 赚废了。

k*****a
发帖数: 1463
28
Mark@ 1/23 AAPL issued lower margin, warned lower next Q sales.

【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Mark again, AAPL may soon to issue profit warning, along with significant
: margin short fall.
: IPAD mini pricing point is reducing pad profit of AAPL. Andriod is winning
: iOS, IP5 not selling well, neither will be IP6, trend is down.
: All other stock will rise from the loss of AAPL.
:
: for

1 (共1页)
进入Stock版参与讨论
相关主题
我想shot Apple stock不以股价论英雄
果子明天会大涨嘛微软收购RIMM跟AAPL对决的几率多大?
HP to buy PALM for 1.2BAAPL的衰退速度将是NOK的两倍,RIMM的三倍
what's wrong with ADBE苹果就是下一个诺基亚,黑莓
既生瑜, 何生亮?Demise of AAPL good for IT WSN
我不买RIMM的N个原因AMZN will surpass AAPL to become the largest company in terms of market value in 2016
我最近在花街发现的几个口交现象新高不客气
今天不说BP, 说说NOKaapl 会不会迎来巨大涨幅
相关话题的讨论汇总
话题: aapl话题: nok话题: rimm话题: mark话题: apple