g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 1 目前肯定是低估了，还在VIX的屁股后面一半呢！！ |
h******t
发帖数: 3858 | |
k****h
发帖数: 944 | 3 NO, not TVIX. Its price is still far above its indicative value. Should buy
UVXY, if you believe a bearish market.
【在 g****8 的大作中提到】
: 目前肯定是低估了，还在VIX的屁股后面一半呢！！
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o*******w
发帖数: 2310 | 4 he was in @ 6.38
【在 h******t 的大作中提到】
: lz今天收入可观啊
: 恭喜恭喜！
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g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 5 坚信今天能出水，哈哈
【在 o*******w 的大作中提到】
: he was in @ 6.38
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n*******d
发帖数: 115 | |
g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 7 是啊，老大，这么坚定的看熊，应该如UVXY的，至少该入部分仓位
【在 n*******d 的大作中提到】
: 应该买UVXY, keneth 说得对
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r******x
发帖数: 77 | 8 UVXY没有溢价吗？
溢价是怎么出来的？
TVIX目前的溢价应该已经缩小了。 |
g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 9 老大，还有机会下车换车吗？
【在 n*******d 的大作中提到】
: 应该买UVXY, keneth 说得对
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k****h
发帖数: 944 | 10 In fact, if you have TVIX and believe in a bearish market, you should dump
TVIX and buy back UVXY, as there is a still a 10% return needed to be mad
up for TVIX.
【在 n*******d 的大作中提到】
: 应该买UVXY, keneth 说得对
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g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 11 sure，UVXY对VIX的track比TVIX好多了，当时没看那几个指标，不懂，青蛙嘛：）
【在 r******x 的大作中提到】
: UVXY没有溢价吗？
: 溢价是怎么出来的？
: TVIX目前的溢价应该已经缩小了。
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g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 12 怕UVXY的大红利已经过去了，TVIX某一天会赶上的，I feel，这次就当交学费了，少赚点
【在 k****h 的大作中提到】
: In fact, if you have TVIX and believe in a bearish market, you should dump
: TVIX and buy back UVXY, as there is a still a 10% return needed to be mad
: up for TVIX.
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g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 13 出水鸟！！
【在 g****8 的大作中提到】
: 坚信今天能出水，哈哈
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S*********t
发帖数: 620 | 14 Why not TZA call or TNA put? My monthly TZA call has very good profit. |
k****h
发帖数: 944 | 15 there is almost no premium with UVXY now ,much less than 3% now.
【在 r******x 的大作中提到】
: UVXY没有溢价吗？
: 溢价是怎么出来的？
: TVIX目前的溢价应该已经缩小了。
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n*******d
发帖数: 115 | 16 别换，我以前干过这样的蠢事，结果60%的大肉没吃到
【在 g****8 的大作中提到】
: 老大，还有机会下车换车吗？
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g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 17 TVIX可以加速的，如果是大熊市会比3x的繁殖好，参见去年的数据
【在 S*********t 的大作中提到】
: Why not TZA call or TNA put? My monthly TZA call has very good profit.
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n*******d
发帖数: 115 | 18 uvxy是etf，拿一定量的share随时可以找发行机构变现。tvix是etn，好像要过20年后
一起兑现，所以遥遥无期，那时候的价值比起现在来就是零，因为contango。所以uvxy
跟他的资产价值跟得很紧，而tvix就会出现大的折扣或溢价。 |
k****h
发帖数: 944 | 19 WHEN UVXY's price was 13.28 earlier, its indicative value was 13.24. much
less than 1%
【在 k****h 的大作中提到】
: there is almost no premium with UVXY now ,much less than 3% now.
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r******x
发帖数: 77 | 20 既然会熊下去，总有TVIX catch up的时候。现在换没必要了吧。当然risk自己负责了
。大盘小幅反弹也不是没可能。 |
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n*******d
发帖数: 115 | 21 有的平台可以看indicative value. Ticker: UVXY.IV, TVIX.IV |
r******x
发帖数: 77 | 22 Thanks for sharing. 不过UVXY跌起来的时候也是蛮需要强大心脏的。
uvxy
【在 n*******d 的大作中提到】
: uvxy是etf，拿一定量的share随时可以找发行机构变现。tvix是etn，好像要过20年后
: 一起兑现，所以遥遥无期，那时候的价值比起现在来就是零，因为contango。所以uvxy
: 跟他的资产价值跟得很紧，而tvix就会出现大的折扣或溢价。
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g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 23 老大，昨天您说一句，我就进些uvxy了，呵呵，当经验了
uvxy
【在 n*******d 的大作中提到】
: uvxy是etf，拿一定量的share随时可以找发行机构变现。tvix是etn，好像要过20年后
: 一起兑现，所以遥遥无期，那时候的价值比起现在来就是零，因为contango。所以uvxy
: 跟他的资产价值跟得很紧，而tvix就会出现大的折扣或溢价。
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r******x
发帖数: 77 | 24 为什么前一段时间TVIX涨跌都比较幅度明显，现在突然溢价增加幅度放缓。这个溢价怎
么出来的？
【在 n*******d 的大作中提到】
: 有的平台可以看indicative value. Ticker: UVXY.IV, TVIX.IV
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y****n
发帖数: 135 | 25 前两天发起的TVIX，会继续发彪下去吗？指望我那1000股涨到50$呢。根据日线图，还
应涨几天（TVIX）。期盼中。 |
k****h
发帖数: 944 | 26 You are right. The difference between UVXY and TVIX was generated earlier
this week, because TVIX dropped much less than its indicative value (or
compared to UVXY) in the past three days. So if you bought TVIX some time
before this week, the return should be the same as buying UVXY. But if you
bought TVIX this Tuesday or Wednesday, your TVIX was overestimated and thus,
it has to underperform to make up the gap.
Today, the indicative value of TVIX and UVXY has increased by more than 25%
(from 4.64 to 5.83), but TVIX only increased by LESSN THAN 10%, so TVIX has
caught up some, although its intrinsic value is still far lag behind.
It will be a catching day Tomorrow. Let's wait for it.
But if you believe in bear, you should still buy UVXY.
【在 r******x 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for sharing. 不过UVXY跌起来的时候也是蛮需要强大心脏的。
:
: uvxy
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n*******d
发帖数: 115 | 27 溢价来自市场的供求关系，虽然偏离了 indicative value，还有人非理性的买或卖，
就更偏离了。TVIX是ETN，track没那么紧很正常，因为兑现要在10几20年以后
【在 r******x 的大作中提到】
: 为什么前一段时间TVIX涨跌都比较幅度明显，现在突然溢价增加幅度放缓。这个溢价怎
: 么出来的？
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r******x
发帖数: 77 | 28 Great answers. That solves some mystery observations I have for this one.
thus,
%
has
【在 k****h 的大作中提到】
: You are right. The difference between UVXY and TVIX was generated earlier
: this week, because TVIX dropped much less than its indicative value (or
: compared to UVXY) in the past three days. So if you bought TVIX some time
: before this week, the return should be the same as buying UVXY. But if you
: bought TVIX this Tuesday or Wednesday, your TVIX was overestimated and thus,
: it has to underperform to make up the gap.
: Today, the indicative value of TVIX and UVXY has increased by more than 25%
: (from 4.64 to 5.83), but TVIX only increased by LESSN THAN 10%, so TVIX has
: caught up some, although its intrinsic value is still far lag behind.
: It will be a catching day Tomorrow. Let's wait for it.
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g****8
发帖数: 1580 | 29 Thanks！还是TVIX吧，心脏不够强大，买不了UVXY。
thus,
%
has
【在 k****h 的大作中提到】
: You are right. The difference between UVXY and TVIX was generated earlier
: this week, because TVIX dropped much less than its indicative value (or
: compared to UVXY) in the past three days. So if you bought TVIX some time
: before this week, the return should be the same as buying UVXY. But if you
: bought TVIX this Tuesday or Wednesday, your TVIX was overestimated and thus,
: it has to underperform to make up the gap.
: Today, the indicative value of TVIX and UVXY has increased by more than 25%
: (from 4.64 to 5.83), but TVIX only increased by LESSN THAN 10%, so TVIX has
: caught up some, although its intrinsic value is still far lag behind.
: It will be a catching day Tomorrow. Let's wait for it.
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y****n
发帖数: 135 | 30 TVIX会继续发彪下去吗？指望我那1000股涨到50$呢。根据日线图，还应涨几天（TVIX
）。期盼中。 |
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y****n
发帖数: 135 | 31 前两天发起的TVIX，会继续发彪下去吗？指望我那1000股涨到50$呢。根据日线图，还
应涨几天（TVIX）。期盼中。 |
n*******d
发帖数: 115 | 32 50的目标好远大呀，也可能是我鼠目寸光。注意风险，保本第一
TVIX
【在 y****n 的大作中提到】
: TVIX会继续发彪下去吗？指望我那1000股涨到50$呢。根据日线图，还应涨几天（TVIX
: ）。期盼中。
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y*******8
发帖数: 2377 | 33 本来一直想上的，可是太不给力了！！！比UVXY差远了。还是鼓弄我的UVXY吧！！！ |
