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m*****u
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Greece Announces New Measures to Close Budget Gap
By NIKI KITSANTONIS
Published: September 11, 2011
ATHENS — With foreign creditors and global markets piling pressure on
Greece to meet the conditions of an international bailout and stave off a
default that would shake the euro zone, the debt-ridden government announced
further budget cuts on Sunday and introduced a one-time property tax, even
as thousands of Greeks protested months of austerity.
The announcement of the new fiscal measures, made Sunday by Finance Minister
Evangelos Venizelos on the sidelines of an annual trade fair in the
northern port of Salonika, came days after fresh speculation in the foreign
media of an imminent default by Greece — reports that Mr. Venizelos
dismissed as “a game in bad taste, an organized piece of speculation
against the euro.”
It also came just days before auditors from the European Union and
International Monetary Fund were due to return to Athens to check the
government’s progress in plugging a budget shortfall estimated at €2
billion, or $2.7 billion, a step toward qualification for the next
installment of emergency loans on which the country’s solvency depends.
Athens is expecting to receive another €8 billion in the next tranche
of aid from the €110 billion rescue package Greece was awarded last
year. That aid is to be supplemented by a second bailout of €109
billion that European leaders agreed to in July. But the second package is
threatened by demands from a handful of euro zone countries that Greece
provide collateral to secure further loans.
Mr. Venizelos said the government would do everything needed to close the
budget shortfall. “If we can prove wrong those who are betting on Greece to
fail, we will see the crisis recede,” he said.
Compounding the country’s problems is a weakening economy. Mr. Venizelos
warned Sunday that gross domestic product was now expected to contract 5.3
percent in 2011, far worse than the 3.8 percent decline projected in May.
Among the measures Mr. Venizelos announced Sunday was a temporary property
tax, ranging from 50 cents to €10 per square meter, or per 11 square
feet, depending on the value of the property, which will be collected for
two years. The tax will be reduced for the disabled, the unemployed and for
large families, he said. The levy will be added to electric bills to thwart
tax evasion.
Mr. Venizelos also warned that the government would make further cuts to
public spending. In a largely symbolic move, the government said it would
withhold a month’s pay from all elected officials.
“This is a battle for the country’s survival,” Prime Minister George A.
Papandreou told a news conference in Salonika on Sunday. “These measures
are the supplies we need to fight.”
Babis Papadimitriou, an economic analyst for the private television channel
Skai and for the daily newspaper Kathimerini, said the new property tax was
“an act of desperation.”
“This is an admission of the failure of the government’s policies,” he
said. “They are asking those who have already paid to pay again.”
On Saturday night, addressing an audience of entrepreneurs and politicians
at an annual policy speech traditionally used by Greek prime ministers to
announce new public handouts, Mr. Papandreou had little to offer other than
his determination.
“We will do everything necessary to keep Greece on its feet,” Mr.
Papandreou said. “We will remain in the euro.”
The prime minister sought to offset the bitter medicine of austerity with
promises of initiatives to increase growth. A program to privatize state-
owned assets, intended to raise €50 billion by 2014, would create
investment opportunities and jobs as would the simplification of licensing
procedures for investments in the tourism and renewable energy sectors, he
said.
Judging from the mood in the streets of Salonika on Saturday night, and from
plans by labor unions for a fresh wave of strikes this week, the prime
minister’s words fell on deaf ears. Riot police officers fired tear gas to
disperse more than 25,000 demonstrators from various groups including civil
servants and university students. Taxi drivers protesting measures to open
their sector to competition hacked chunks of stone from sidewalks and hurled
them at riot officers. The police said 94 people had been detained but gave
no figures for injuries. Local media said at least 10 protesters were hurt
in the clashes.
i******g
发帖数: 1444
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treat it as a joke~~~~~~
c****t
发帖数: 5452
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反正我是信了
m*****u
发帖数: 5534
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信了有救了?

【在 c****t 的大作中提到】
: 反正我是信了
n*****r
发帖数: 159
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做个简单的计算。
希腊2010 GDP $300B~350B, 债务$400B, running deficit $15~20B.
人口11million, 5million家庭。假设每个家庭200平方米房子,增加proxy tax $.10
to $.50, 每年能最多增加tax 5m*200*.5 = $0.5B.如果考虑退休和低收入人口比例,
以及200平方米房子是高估,每年能collect的额外的proxy tax 能有$0.2B就不错了。
欧盟auditor这周要看到希腊能plug $2B~$3B hole,但是希腊政府在最后一刻能找到的
税源也只有hole的1/10不到,就更不用谈如何plug那个每年$20B的decifit和$400B的总
债务了。这说明希腊国内阻力很大,即使欧盟愿意再借钱,希腊政府还是没能力还债,
最后只有default一条路可以走。

announced
even
Minister

【在 m*****u 的大作中提到】
: Greece Announces New Measures to Close Budget Gap
: By NIKI KITSANTONIS
: Published: September 11, 2011
: ATHENS — With foreign creditors and global markets piling pressure on
: Greece to meet the conditions of an international bailout and stave off a
: default that would shake the euro zone, the debt-ridden government announced
: further budget cuts on Sunday and introduced a one-time property tax, even
: as thousands of Greeks protested months of austerity.
: The announcement of the new fiscal measures, made Sunday by Finance Minister
: Evangelos Venizelos on the sidelines of an annual trade fair in the

Z****g
发帖数: 13731
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厉害,当初谁借钱给这个败家子的?

【在 n*****r 的大作中提到】
: 做个简单的计算。
: 希腊2010 GDP $300B~350B, 债务$400B, running deficit $15~20B.
: 人口11million, 5million家庭。假设每个家庭200平方米房子,增加proxy tax $.10
: to $.50, 每年能最多增加tax 5m*200*.5 = $0.5B.如果考虑退休和低收入人口比例,
: 以及200平方米房子是高估,每年能collect的额外的proxy tax 能有$0.2B就不错了。
: 欧盟auditor这周要看到希腊能plug $2B~$3B hole,但是希腊政府在最后一刻能找到的
: 税源也只有hole的1/10不到,就更不用谈如何plug那个每年$20B的decifit和$400B的总
: 债务了。这说明希腊国内阻力很大,即使欧盟愿意再借钱,希腊政府还是没能力还债,
: 最后只有default一条路可以走。
:

g****e
发帖数: 1344
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你有个明显的错误,tax is 0.1欧 to 10欧 depend on the price of the property.
希腊的问题不是这次能不能筹到2b,而是今后怎么办.

【在 n*****r 的大作中提到】
: 做个简单的计算。
: 希腊2010 GDP $300B~350B, 债务$400B, running deficit $15~20B.
: 人口11million, 5million家庭。假设每个家庭200平方米房子,增加proxy tax $.10
: to $.50, 每年能最多增加tax 5m*200*.5 = $0.5B.如果考虑退休和低收入人口比例,
: 以及200平方米房子是高估,每年能collect的额外的proxy tax 能有$0.2B就不错了。
: 欧盟auditor这周要看到希腊能plug $2B~$3B hole,但是希腊政府在最后一刻能找到的
: 税源也只有hole的1/10不到,就更不用谈如何plug那个每年$20B的decifit和$400B的总
: 债务了。这说明希腊国内阻力很大,即使欧盟愿意再借钱,希腊政府还是没能力还债,
: 最后只有default一条路可以走。
:

s********i
发帖数: 17328
8
是中间人(如高盛)给借的钱,不告诉你它快还不上,然后再赌它还不上。

【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: 厉害,当初谁借钱给这个败家子的?
t***y
发帖数: 2276
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这个Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos 会不会是唐生智守南京城?
没有金刚钻,却非要栏瓷器活。拍胸脯发誓,转头就开溜。
很悲观,我看是没救了。
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