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w**j
发帖数: 1032
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脑子有毛病.就是regan也是加税,增加spending才过的经济危机.
Dem 要求的又不是提高税rate,而且 close tax loophole.连loophole都不让关啊.
p**********d
发帖数: 7918
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人民群眾的眼睛偶爾也是雪亮的。
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/05/us/politics/05poll.html?hp
August 4, 2011
Disapproval Rate for Congress at Record 82% After Debt Talks
By MICHAEL COOPER and MEGAN THEE-BRENAN
The debate over raising the debt ceiling, which brought the nation to the
brink of default, has sent disapproval of Congress to its highest level on
record and left most Americans saying that creating jobs should now take
priority over cutting spending, according to the latest New York Times/CBS
News Poll.
A record 82 percent of Americans now disapprove of the way Congress is
handling its job — the most since The Times first began asking the question
in 1977, and even more than after another political stalemate led to a
shutdown of the federal government in 1995.
More than four out of five people surveyed said that the recent debt-ceiling
debate was more about gaining political advantage than about doing what is
best for the country. Nearly three-quarters said that the debate had harmed
the image of the United States in the world.
Republicans in Congress shoulder more of the blame for the difficulties in
reaching a debt-ceiling agreement than President Obama and the Democrats,
the poll found.
The Republicans compromised too little, a majority of those polled said. All
told, 72 percent disapproved of the way Republicans in Congress handled the
negotiations, while 66 percent disapproved of the way Democrats in Congress
handled negotiations.
The public was more evenly divided about how Mr. Obama handled the debt
ceiling negotiations: 47 percent disapproved and 46 percent approved.
The public’s opinion of the Tea Party movement has soured in the wake of
the debt-ceiling debate. The Tea Party is now viewed unfavorably by 40
percent of the public and favorably by just 20 percent, according to the
poll. In mid-April 29 percent of those polled viewed the movement
unfavorably, while 26 percent viewed it favorably. And 43 percent of
Americans now think the Tea Party has too much influence on the Republican
Party, up from 27 percent in mid-April.
“I’m real disappointed in Congress,” Ron Raggio, 54, a florist from
Vicksburg, Miss., said in a follow-up interview. “They can’t sit down and
agree about what’s best for America. It’s all politics.”
There were signs that the repeated Republican calls for more spending cuts
were resonating with the public: 44 percent of those polled said the cuts in
the debt-ceiling agreement did not go far enough, 29 percent said they were
about right and only 15 percent said they went too far. More than a quarter
of the Democrats polled said that the cuts in the agreement did not go far
enough.
But by a ratio of more than two to one, Americans said that creating jobs
should be a higher priority than spending cuts.
Though Republicans prevented tax increases from being included in the debt-
ceiling deal, half of those polled said the agreement should have included
increased tax revenue, while 44 percent said it should have relied on cuts
alone. That issue is likely to be revisited soon: Congress is preparing to
appoint a special committee to recommend ways to reduce the deficit. Sixty-
three percent of those polled said that they supported raising taxes on
households that earn more than $250,000 a year, as Mr. Obama has sought to
do — including majorities of Democrats (80 percent), independents (61
percent) and Republicans (52 percent).
The poll found that Mr. Obama was emerging from the crisis less bruised than
the Republicans in Congress.
The president’s overall job approval rating remained relatively stable,
with 48 percent approving of the way he handles his job as president and 47
percent disapproving — down from the bump up he received in the spring
after the killing of Osama bin Laden, but in line with how he has been
viewed for nearly a year. By contrast, Speaker John A. Boehner, an Ohio
Republican, saw his disapproval rating shoot up 16 points since April: 57
percent of those polled now disapprove of the way he is handling his job,
while only 30 percent approve.
Americans said that they trusted Mr. Obama to make the right decisions about
the economy more than the Republicans in Congress, by 47 percent to 33
percent. They were evenly divided on the question of whether he showed “
strong qualities of leadership” during the negotiations, with 49 percent
saying he did and 48 percent saying he did not. And they were still more
likely to blame President George W. Bush for the bulk of the nation’s
deficit: 44 percent said that the deficit was mostly caused by the Bush
administration, 15 percent said it was mostly caused by the Obama
administration and 15 percent blamed Congress.
The growing fears about the economy — amid a sinking stock market and
warnings that the nation risks sliding back into recession — were reflected
in the nationwide telephone poll, which was conducted Tuesday and Wednesday
with 960 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three
percentage points.
The number of Americans who rated the economy “very bad” was the highest
it had been in a year. But there was uncertainty about whether the debt-
ceiling deal would help or hurt the economy: nearly half said it would have
no effect, while 24 percent said it would make the economy worse and 22
percent said it would improve it.
Americans were evenly divided on the parameters of the debt-ceiling deal, in
which Congress agreed to allow the federal government to borrow the money
needed to pay its current obligations and avoid default on the condition
that it reduce the deficit by at least $2.1 trillion over the next 10 years.
Over all, 46 percent of those polled approved of the deal, while 45 percent
disapproved of it.
Most of those polled said that the spending cuts included either did not go
far enough or were about right. But with the nation’s unemployment rate at
a stubborn 9.2 percent, 62 percent of those polled said that creating jobs
should be the priority.
“Cutting spending is important, but getting people back to work is more
important,” said Diane Sherrell, 56, a Republican from Erwin, N.C. “If
people are working, they are more productive. There is less crime, there is
less depression, there is less divorce. There are less hospital and medical
bills. If you put people back to work, you are cutting spending.”
Stanley Oland, 62, a Republican from Kalispell, Mont., said that the
government needed new jobs to generate the economic activity and the revenue
it requires.
“That revenue supports the basic foundation for the economy, creates more
jobs and stimulates the economy,” he said. “Unless you have working people
you don’t have revenue from taxes. If you cut spending, jobs will be
eliminated and you won’t get any revenue. Every dollar spent creates jobs.”
Marjorie Connelly, Allison Kopicki and Marina Stefan contributed reporting.

【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
: 脑子有毛病.就是regan也是加税,增加spending才过的经济危机.
: Dem 要求的又不是提高税rate,而且 close tax loophole.连loophole都不让关啊.

s*****e
发帖数: 531
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没用,美国人民太容易被政客糊弄了。看看这十年选的都是什么总统。。。

【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: 人民群眾的眼睛偶爾也是雪亮的。
: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/05/us/politics/05poll.html?hp
: August 4, 2011
: Disapproval Rate for Congress at Record 82% After Debt Talks
: By MICHAEL COOPER and MEGAN THEE-BRENAN
: The debate over raising the debt ceiling, which brought the nation to the
: brink of default, has sent disapproval of Congress to its highest level on
: record and left most Americans saying that creating jobs should now take
: priority over cutting spending, according to the latest New York Times/CBS
: News Poll.

g*****u
发帖数: 14294
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你看四书五经里面,对待经济危机开的也是austerity的方子。
古人也是人,智慧也有限。

【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
: 脑子有毛病.就是regan也是加税,增加spending才过的经济危机.
: Dem 要求的又不是提高税rate,而且 close tax loophole.连loophole都不让关啊.

u********e
发帖数: 4950
5
现在是美元有救了,经济发展无着落了,呵呵
不过这样FED就可以出来继续打压美元了
d***i
发帖数: 226
6
你欠信用卡钱时也应该多花点才好,呵呵。

【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
: 脑子有毛病.就是regan也是加税,增加spending才过的经济危机.
: Dem 要求的又不是提高税rate,而且 close tax loophole.连loophole都不让关啊.

w**j
发帖数: 1032
7

砍政府开支->失业增加,GDP -.2%
美国是自己印美元自己花的.
日本debt都是GDP 200%了.

【在 d***i 的大作中提到】
: 你欠信用卡钱时也应该多花点才好,呵呵。
d***i
发帖数: 226
8
谁会借钱给你?日本政府是从老百姓那里借钱,米国呢?

【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
:
: 砍政府开支->失业增加,GDP -.2%
: 美国是自己印美元自己花的.
: 日本debt都是GDP 200%了.

p**********d
发帖数: 7918
9
民科經濟學害死人啊。你欠信用卡錢多了可以宣佈破產,美國政府如何宣佈破產?不要
拿個人財務和國家財政亂比。

【在 d***i 的大作中提到】
: 你欠信用卡钱时也应该多花点才好,呵呵。
y***r
发帖数: 16594
10
屁的经济学,用大脑思考就知道了。美国就是上了借钱的毒瘾,迟早要靠战争赖帐。

【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: 民科經濟學害死人啊。你欠信用卡錢多了可以宣佈破產,美國政府如何宣佈破產?不要
: 拿個人財務和國家財政亂比。

d***i
发帖数: 226
11
I only know when you are deep in a hole, you don't dig deeper to get
yourself out of it. LOL.

【在 p**********d 的大作中提到】
: 民科經濟學害死人啊。你欠信用卡錢多了可以宣佈破產,美國政府如何宣佈破產?不要
: 拿個人財務和國家財政亂比。

p**********d
发帖数: 7918
12
說你們民科還自以為是。美國債務根本不嚴重。經濟一增長,多收一點稅,加一點通貨
膨脹,問題就解決了。你管理個人財務向誰收稅,如何利用通貨膨脹?

【在 y***r 的大作中提到】
: 屁的经济学,用大脑思考就知道了。美国就是上了借钱的毒瘾,迟早要靠战争赖帐。
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