m*********y
发帖数: 10616 | 1 可上可下，如果上来，不排除迅速回补缺口，如果往下，可能就是无底洞了。 |
K********g
发帖数: 9389 | 2 还无底个屁。这种破烂和CSCO一样。
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 可上可下，如果上来，不排除迅速回补缺口，如果往下，可能就是无底洞了。
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m*********y
发帖数: 10616 | 3 不一定，不要看到暴跌就慌张好吧。
【在 K********g 的大作中提到】
: 还无底个屁。这种破烂和CSCO一样。
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b******u
发帖数: 1559 | 4 up
希望向上！
要是向上，补缺口后会怎么走法？
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 可上可下，如果上来，不排除迅速回补缺口，如果往下，可能就是无底洞了。
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m*****n
发帖数: 170 | 5 凡是毛主席作出的决策，我们都坚决维护；凡是毛主席的指示，我们都始终不渝地遵循。
我顶主席，哈哈
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 不一定，不要看到暴跌就慌张好吧。
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m*********y
发帖数: 10616 | 6 其实吧，我觉得向下的可能性大得多，庄家出货的可能性更大，我上次介入太冒进了，
这次只有死扛了，还好还没有到封顶价位，等他跌的一塌糊涂的时候再加吧，唉！
【在 b******u 的大作中提到】
: up
: 希望向上！
: 要是向上，补缺口后会怎么走法？
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b******u
发帖数: 1559 | 7 主席这么看，看来也是八九不离十了！
要作好长期抗战的准备！
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 其实吧，我觉得向下的可能性大得多，庄家出货的可能性更大，我上次介入太冒进了，
: 这次只有死扛了，还好还没有到封顶价位，等他跌的一塌糊涂的时候再加吧，唉！
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w*****7
发帖数: 5038 | 8 我也顶主席一个
加的时候喊一声
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 其实吧，我觉得向下的可能性大得多，庄家出货的可能性更大，我上次介入太冒进了，
: 这次只有死扛了，还好还没有到封顶价位，等他跌的一塌糊涂的时候再加吧，唉！
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b******u
发帖数: 1559 | 9 主席，庄家要出货不就要先往上拉一下么？
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 其实吧，我觉得向下的可能性大得多，庄家出货的可能性更大，我上次介入太冒进了，
: 这次只有死扛了，还好还没有到封顶价位，等他跌的一塌糊涂的时候再加吧，唉！
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m*********y
发帖数: 10616 | 10 呵呵，如果能反弹一点，我就先出去看看在说，否则，就守着咯。
【在 b******u 的大作中提到】
: 主席，庄家要出货不就要先往上拉一下么？
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k********n
发帖数: 18523 | 11 这么solid的股票庄稼也割肉？
是庄稼也是那中不考谱的小庄等钱用 |
m*********y
发帖数: 10616 | 12 我回头再看看，2月11日的巨量很可能是庄家出逃的痕迹，我当时掉以轻心了。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 这么solid的股票庄稼也割肉？
: 是庄稼也是那中不考谱的小庄等钱用
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k******i
发帖数: 686 | 13 主席 请问有庄家主做空的吗？
因为这个股票我实在看不出庄家做多哪里能赚呢？
那么大的盘子也基本没怎么涨过。 |
k********n
发帖数: 18523 | 14 庄家持股是为了红利，股票有高回报率和高分红两种
Nok属于后者，这里的人多追求前者
如果哪天诺基亚停了红利，绝对崩盘 |
m*********y
发帖数: 10616 | 15 所以在一直跌啊，估计跌到大家都不敢上的时候就要涨了，看着吧。还是找一些上升通
道中的，放心。
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】
: 主席 请问有庄家主做空的吗？
: 因为这个股票我实在看不出庄家做多哪里能赚呢？
: 那么大的盘子也基本没怎么涨过。
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 16 这种烂股就不应该耽误时间看，等爬到50日线再说，捞底只会越捞越底
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 可上可下，如果上来，不排除迅速回补缺口，如果往下，可能就是无底洞了。
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k******i
发帖数: 686 | 17
可是
高分红那些获得的利润不是要被股价往下走冲销吗？
比如诺基亚9快分红。35快
那他股票不就是8.75吗？
还要加上divident tax
为什么要持有呢？
我一直有这个疑问
谢谢！
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 庄家持股是为了红利，股票有高回报率和高分红两种
: Nok属于后者，这里的人多追求前者
: 如果哪天诺基亚停了红利，绝对崩盘
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k********n
发帖数: 18523 | 18
老庄家都吃红利吃n年了，成本低的该死
【在 k******i 的大作中提到】
:
: 可是
: 高分红那些获得的利润不是要被股价往下走冲销吗？
: 比如诺基亚9快分红。35快
: 那他股票不就是8.75吗？
: 还要加上divident tax
: 为什么要持有呢？
: 我一直有这个疑问
: 谢谢！
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k********n
发帖数: 18523 | 19 泰然处之，别被花街忽有了就是了。
http://seekingalpha.com/article/260320-nokia-presents-rewarding
Investors have all but left Nokia (NOK) for dead. The shares recently
plumbed to new lows, hitting $7.73. Shares rebounded last week, closing
Friday at $8.35. By the looks of the stock performance you would think Nokia
can't sell a single phone. It was not too many years ago that Nokia made
the most popular phones.
Investor sentiment on the stock has reached ultimate pessimism. Nokia
continues to lose share to Apple (AAPL) and Google (GOOG) in the smartphone
market. Investors, however, tend to look only at the United States when
judging the performance of Nokia. Nokia continues to be a powerhouse in
other parts of the world. According to the Q4 earnings report, Nokia shipped
5 million handsets in the fourth quarter alone.
Nokia reported that devices and services net sales were up 18% sequentially
and up 4% year over year. The average selling price (ASP) in devices and
services was up 7% year over year. The ASP of their mobile phones was up 6%
year over year. In addition, Nokia Siemens Networks reported that sales
increased 35% sequentially and 9% year over year.
Yet, admittedly the picture is not rosy for Nokia. CEO, Stephen Elop,
recently wrote in a letter to employees "We too, are standing on a 'burning
platform,' and we must decide how we are going to change our behaviour."
Customers don't like Nokia's Symbian software (phone software). It is not
nearly as user-friendly as Apple's iOS or Google's Android and it doesn't
have nearly the array of downloadable applications.
Nokia wants to change that. On the Q4 conference call, Elop stated "In short
, our industry has changed, it's time for Nokia to change faster." Nokia
recently partnered with Microsoft (MSFT) to begin producing phones based on
Windows Mobile software. A deal that was not widely cheered on Wall Street.
The stock fell 14% that day. However, the deal is a way for Nokia to obtain
a better, smoother and more popular operating system while still holding its
own identity. Nokia could have announced plans to make phones for android,
but it risked being lost in a sea of cheap handsets. Microsoft hasn't fared
well either in the mobile market. The deal should help Microsoft reach more
customers, making it a possible win-win for the two companies.
Nokia faces many challenges, but the stock price is extremely attractive for
the amount of cash Nokia is still generating. Investors have forgotten that
Nokia still makes a lot of money. At $8.35, the stock trades at a forward
PE of 11.55. Nokia's price/owner earnings ratio (to learn about price/owner
earnings click here) is even more attractive at less than 5. This represents
the extreme pessimism that is built into the stock price.
Nokia generated $57 billion in revenue over the last twelve months. For 2010
, Nokia had operating cash flows of $6.39 billion and capital expenditures
of only $908 million. Over the last five years earnings have grown at 4.4%
annually. Nokia pays a handsome dividend of 6.5%. Its dividend has grown at
an annualized rate of 1.6% over the last five years. Nokia's payout ratio is
a manageable 61%.
Value Analysis
Metric NOK
Market Cap $31.0 B
Recent Price $8.35
Forward PE 11.55
Dividend Yield 6.53%
5 Year Div. Growth Rate 1.60%
Payout Ratio 61.00%
Price/Book 4.25
Price/Cash Flow 6.55
Price/Earnings Growth 2.22
Price/Owner Earnings 4.97
Return on Equity 8.67%
Debt/Equity 32.92
Revenue TTM $56.94 B
Operating Cash Flow FYE $6.39 B
Capex FYE $908 M
Capex/Cash Flow FYE 0.14
5 Year Rev. Growth Rate -9.60%
5 Year Cash Flow Growth Rate -6.70%
5 Year Earnings Growth Rate 4.40%
Net Profit Margin 4.36%
Current Assets $34.33 B
Return on Assets 4.67%
Long-term Debt $5.88 B
Admittedly, by buying Nokia you are betting on a turnaround. The biggest
risk to Nokia is if the Windows Mobile operating system fails to gain
traction. This could cause Nokia to continue losing ground to Apple and
Google. Nokia doesn't have to win the smartphone war. It only has to compete
. There is plenty of room for multiple smartphone makers. Remember this isn'
t a zero-sum game for the manufacturers.
Nokia is cheap, and it partially deserves a cheap valuation. There was also
a time that Apple deserved a cheap valuation. Nokia isn't the next Apple,
but a bet on it at these levels could be very rewarding.
Disclosure: I am long NOK, AAPL.
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k********n
发帖数: 18523 | 20 pre-er run 开始了
会持续到下月中下旬 |
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j********e
发帖数: 1192 | 21 4/21号ER，为什么不会持续到4/20号呢？
上上次ER是10/21号，pre-ER run到10/13就开始跌，倒是没run到最后时刻，
而且ER后开跌，是不是这次还是最好在ER前（几天）跑路呀？
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: pre-er run 开始了
: 会持续到下月中下旬
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s*****r
发帖数: 1745 | 22 GS upogrades NOK from neutral to buy.
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: pre-er run 开始了
: 会持续到下月中下旬
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s*****r
发帖数: 1745 | |
k********n
发帖数: 18523 | 24
中下旬不包括20号？
【在 j********e 的大作中提到】
: 4/21号ER，为什么不会持续到4/20号呢？
: 上上次ER是10/21号，pre-ER run到10/13就开始跌，倒是没run到最后时刻，
: 而且ER后开跌，是不是这次还是最好在ER前（几天）跑路呀？
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m*********y
发帖数: 10616 | |
b******u
发帖数: 1559 | 26 别急！
到时在说
【在 j********e 的大作中提到】
: 4/21号ER，为什么不会持续到4/20号呢？
: 上上次ER是10/21号，pre-ER run到10/13就开始跌，倒是没run到最后时刻，
: 而且ER后开跌，是不是这次还是最好在ER前（几天）跑路呀？
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b******u
发帖数: 1559 | 27 主席早啊！
同等出水
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 再涨一涨，俺就要出水了。
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k********n
发帖数: 18523 | |
b******u
发帖数: 1559 | 29 哈哈
俺是要hold到11以上的！
nok是慢牛，要有耐心才行！
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 出水？
: 太胸无大志了，一群谱塞花！
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m*********y
发帖数: 10616 | 30 我们这样的人太多了，所以这个股票涨不上去了。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 出水？
: 太胸无大志了，一群谱塞花！
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