t**********h
发帖数: 2273 | 1 最近想开一个公司在网上卖东西，搜了精华区和其他网站很多文章。对开公司的流程基
本了解了，但是现在有一个问题。我是住在纽约，但是纽约开公司，需要在报纸上打广
告，感觉很麻烦。而且纽约的税很高，请问我这种情况，能不能把公司开到NV或者DE？
我在纽约是没有任何实体服务，业务的。
多谢大家。 |
n******o
发帖数: 491 | 2 注册到DE/NV 也需要在本州再注册一个foreign entity，所以还不如直接注册到本州了
。 |
t**********h
发帖数: 2273 | 3 多谢回复，请问为啥还在在本州注册一个foreign entity. 我在NY没有任何实体服务，
operation啊
【在 n******o 的大作中提到】
: 注册到DE/NV 也需要在本州再注册一个foreign entity，所以还不如直接注册到本州了
: 。
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n******o
发帖数: 491 | 4 If your business will have a physical presence by operating, hiring
employees, banking or even holding an asset in a State other than its State
of Incorporation, clients will often qualify the business to operate in that
state.
Often the next step after forming the Delaware Corporation is to register as
a foreign entity in the State in which you are running the business from.
Most clients will do this even if they do not have physical office space in
that State.
即使没有“实体服务”（我理解的是实体店或办公室等），有库存、出货等，也算是
physical presence. 具体问问你们州的会计师比较好。
【在 t**********h 的大作中提到】
: 多谢回复，请问为啥还在在本州注册一个foreign entity. 我在NY没有任何实体服务，
: operation啊
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t**********h
发帖数: 2273 | 5 我发货肯定是自己从纽约发货，这样严格来说就不行了。
除非自己要求上家把货送到DE/NV,让DE/NV的fulfill center接货并且发货给下家。这
样整个flow就和纽约完全没有任何联系，除了我住在纽约，在纽约指挥之外。
但是这样一来，费用会很高，为了省的那点税，还不如把llc直接开在纽约。不过纽约
开llc是太恶心了，要求在报纸上打广告。。。
State
that
as
in
【在 n******o 的大作中提到】
: If your business will have a physical presence by operating, hiring
: employees, banking or even holding an asset in a State other than its State
: of Incorporation, clients will often qualify the business to operate in that
: state.
: Often the next step after forming the Delaware Corporation is to register as
: a foreign entity in the State in which you are running the business from.
: Most clients will do this even if they do not have physical office space in
: that State.
: 即使没有“实体服务”（我理解的是实体店或办公室等），有库存、出货等，也算是
: physical presence. 具体问问你们州的会计师比较好。
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n******o
发帖数: 491 | 6 是的，为了省税，其实更麻烦费用更高。还不如就开在你所在的州。
在其他州好像也是需要打广告的，也就几十块钱，不麻烦的。
【在 t**********h 的大作中提到】
: 我发货肯定是自己从纽约发货，这样严格来说就不行了。
: 除非自己要求上家把货送到DE/NV,让DE/NV的fulfill center接货并且发货给下家。这
: 样整个flow就和纽约完全没有任何联系，除了我住在纽约，在纽约指挥之外。
: 但是这样一来，费用会很高，为了省的那点税，还不如把llc直接开在纽约。不过纽约
: 开llc是太恶心了，要求在报纸上打广告。。。
:
: State
: that
: as
: in
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t**********h
发帖数: 2273 | 7 NYC打广告要2000，如果在manhattan
【在 n******o 的大作中提到】
: 是的，为了省税，其实更麻烦费用更高。还不如就开在你所在的州。
: 在其他州好像也是需要打广告的，也就几十块钱，不麻烦的。
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f******l
发帖数: 604 | 8 首先，在纽约州成立公司貌似不需要打广告（要是你有相关要求的连接，可以发给我看
看。我还从来没遇到过成立公司要打广告的情况）。请查看：
http://www.dos.ny.gov/corps/llccorp.html#artorg
其次，楼上几位的回复都不够准确。作为一个外州企业（无论是NV，DE还是夏威夷、阿
拉斯加）,如果想在纽约州conduct business，需要递交一份申请：Application for
Authority。而不是楼上说的还要成立一个foreign entity。取决于企业类别，申请表
格会有不同，链接如下：
如果是外州corporation: http://www.dos.ny.gov/forms/corporations/1335-f-l.pdf
如果是外州LLC: http://www.dos.ny.gov/forms/corporations/1361-f-l.pdf |
w****9
发帖数: 6338 | 9 Section 206 of the New York State Limited Liability Company Law requires
that within 120 days after the effectiveness of the initial articles of
organization, a limited liability company (LLC) must publish in two
newspapers a copy of the articles of organization or a notice related to the
formation of the LLC.
上面不是写了要在2个newspaper上打广告吗？
【在 f******l 的大作中提到】
: 首先，在纽约州成立公司貌似不需要打广告（要是你有相关要求的连接，可以发给我看
: 看。我还从来没遇到过成立公司要打广告的情况）。请查看：
: http://www.dos.ny.gov/corps/llccorp.html#artorg
: 其次，楼上几位的回复都不够准确。作为一个外州企业（无论是NV，DE还是夏威夷、阿
: 拉斯加）,如果想在纽约州conduct business，需要递交一份申请：Application for
: Authority。而不是楼上说的还要成立一个foreign entity。取决于企业类别，申请表
: 格会有不同，链接如下：
: 如果是外州corporation: http://www.dos.ny.gov/forms/corporations/1335-f-l.pdf
: 如果是外州LLC: http://www.dos.ny.gov/forms/corporations/1361-f-l.pdf
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 10 打个广告能有多少钱？去别的州注册太麻烦了吧？得不偿失。哪儿写着在那儿搞个公司
要$2000？链接呢？ |
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t**********h
发帖数: 2273 | 11 是成立LLC需要，不是所有。
http://www.dos.ny.gov/corps/llcguide.html
What are the Publication Requirements Associated with the Formation of an
LLC?
Section 206 of the Limited Liability Company Law requires a copy of the
Articles of Organization or a notice related to the formation of most
limited liability companies to be published in two newspapers for six
consecutive weeks. The newspapers must be designated by the county clerk of
the county in which the office of the LLC is located. The newspapers charge
a fee for the publication of the notice. The information in the published
notice, including the name of the LLC, must match the Department of State’s
records exactly as set forth in the initial articles of organization. The
printer or publisher of each newspaper will provide you with an affidavit of
publication. A Certificate of Publication, with the affidavits of
publication of the newspapers annexed thereto, must be submitted to the
Department of State, with a $50 filing fee. Failure to publish and file the
Certificate of Publication with the Department of State within 120 days
will result in the suspension of the LLC’s authority to carry on, conduct
or transact business.
【在 f******l 的大作中提到】
: 首先，在纽约州成立公司貌似不需要打广告（要是你有相关要求的连接，可以发给我看
: 看。我还从来没遇到过成立公司要打广告的情况）。请查看：
: http://www.dos.ny.gov/corps/llccorp.html#artorg
: 其次，楼上几位的回复都不够准确。作为一个外州企业（无论是NV，DE还是夏威夷、阿
: 拉斯加）,如果想在纽约州conduct business，需要递交一份申请：Application for
: Authority。而不是楼上说的还要成立一个foreign entity。取决于企业类别，申请表
: 格会有不同，链接如下：
: 如果是外州corporation: http://www.dos.ny.gov/forms/corporations/1335-f-l.pdf
: 如果是外州LLC: http://www.dos.ny.gov/forms/corporations/1361-f-l.pdf
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t**********h
发帖数: 2273 | 12 只能在他们制定的有限的几个报纸上打，要在两个报纸上打，连续每天打6周。NYC成立
的报纸，这样搞下来，是要2000
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 打个广告能有多少钱？去别的州注册太麻烦了吧？得不偿失。哪儿写着在那儿搞个公司
: 要$2000？链接呢？
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B*D
发帖数: 5016 | 13 那么还在美国开个屁公司
【在 t**********h 的大作中提到】
: 最近想开一个公司在网上卖东西，搜了精华区和其他网站很多文章。对开公司的流程基
: 本了解了，但是现在有一个问题。我是住在纽约，但是纽约开公司，需要在报纸上打广
: 告，感觉很麻烦。而且纽约的税很高，请问我这种情况，能不能把公司开到NV或者DE？
: 我在纽约是没有任何实体服务，业务的。
: 多谢大家。
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j*********g
发帖数: 1273 | 14 couple things to remind you:
1. no matter where you register your business, you are subject to income tax
in the state you have sales.
Lets say your customer is in NJ, if you ship the product to the customer,
your sales is in NJ, if the customer go pick up from you, that is sales in
NY.
How do you allocate the sales to each state? depends on different factors,
such as: sales amount, payroll, physical location, etc. but I think you dont
have anything else going on besides sales.
Keep in mind, there are many many many states require a minimum tax due. for
example, you sold stuff to NJ in 2013 and you did all the tax return nicely
. in 2014, you sell absolutely nothing to NJ, but you are still required to
file an information return in NJ and pay the minimum tax (about 50-300, each
state is different). if you dont file, you will get notice from NJ asking
if you are done with NJ, if you are, which means you will never ever do any
business in NJ again, then you need to file a final return, which may
subject penalty since you didnt withdraw yourself.
2. NYC is a different animal.if you put your business as NYC address, then
you are subject to business tax right away. Lets say, you buy your stuff
from china and sell it to UK, absolutely nothing to do with USA other than
you put your business address as NYC address you are subject to NYC business
tax any way. Becoz, NYC "thinks" that you are promoting your business from
NYC.
Is there any way to work around this? yes. Is it legal tax evasion?
Personally, I think it is a little bit low class so I wont say anything here
but you can ask your cpa. If you cpa does not know anything about it, that
means he or she hasnt seen many cases yet.
3. find a good cpa, dont be cheap. IRS is auditing small business like crazy
nowadays. sign an engagement letter with your cpa before tax return and
specify something like what rate they will charge you if you are audited or
if something is missing. But they will probably cover their own asses by
saying you will have to tell them which states you are doing business
yourself....
4. sales tax is very complicated and each state has different rule depend on
what you are selling. For instance, the treatment for candy and sugar are
different. And a good cpa can help you to get the best deal.
I am not a tax expert, but I have dealt with many cases in the past couple
years and am so glad that I didn't step much into the tax area.
Good luck and make big $. :)
【在 t**********h 的大作中提到】
: 最近想开一个公司在网上卖东西，搜了精华区和其他网站很多文章。对开公司的流程基
: 本了解了，但是现在有一个问题。我是住在纽约，但是纽约开公司，需要在报纸上打广
: 告，感觉很麻烦。而且纽约的税很高，请问我这种情况，能不能把公司开到NV或者DE？
: 我在纽约是没有任何实体服务，业务的。
: 多谢大家。
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b******y
发帖数: 9224 | 15 Good read. It sounds like I can become a CPA and make big $$ ? |
