R*******a
发帖数: 2463 | 1 带领西面，其实打的还是不错的。
不过两次都被拉乌给克了。
拉乌实在是西班牙足球史上最大的毒瘤，这就不多说了。
卡马乔的特点一是特立独行，对媒体嗤之以鼻。这在天朝是好是坏需要实践检验，不过
当时在西面确实有用。00年欧洲杯小组赛，最后时刻卡马乔派上妖怪前锋阿方索，命令
后卫长传对方禁区打高空球，结果这个职业生涯中曾一度无球可踢的球员以一记身体平
行于草地的飞身凌空扫射破网，小组晋级。
00年高卢鸡实力状态都是顶峰，但夺冠路上最激烈最危险的一战就是和卡马乔的西面。
西班牙实力上不如法国，但战术对头，上半场坚决打维克托的左路突破，频频得手，一
度将法国置于绝地。下半场法国调整队形之后才将后防稳定下来，但仍挡不住西面在最
后一分钟争得点球，不过老二再次发挥毒瘤本色，不提。纵观法国历次大赛，以此战和对意大利的决
赛最为凶险。
与之相比较，06年的西面实力大大强过00年，却整场无法对实力已经下降很多的法国造
成威胁，这是抛弃了卡马乔那种敢于走极端的临场战术的恶果。
韩日世界杯不能算世界杯，踢进去的球被吹出来，加时赛还被莫须有的罚点球，那神仙
也难救。当然，那场比赛上半场就是西面在耍棒子玩，不过后来大家都没体力了，耍不
动了，这也是西面以前大赛的特点。
卡马乔的特点之二是战术纪律极为严格，上场的每个人都职责明确。00年的瓜迪奥拉，
02年的贝莱隆，在后腰位置上被卡马乔撵得在中后场要象狗一样的追防对方进攻球员，
这点让人不大看得下去。不过这种做法应该是现在的天朝史上第一烂队需要的。
总之，要象评级机构给卡马乔上任前景评级的话，公允的说可以给个neutral. |
b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 2 00年是南斯拉夫人放水好不好
【在 R*******a 的大作中提到】
: 带领西面，其实打的还是不错的。
: 不过两次都被拉乌给克了。
: 拉乌实在是西班牙足球史上最大的毒瘤，这就不多说了。
: 卡马乔的特点一是特立独行，对媒体嗤之以鼻。这在天朝是好是坏需要实践检验，不过
: 当时在西面确实有用。00年欧洲杯小组赛，最后时刻卡马乔派上妖怪前锋阿方索，命令
: 后卫长传对方禁区打高空球，结果这个职业生涯中曾一度无球可踢的球员以一记身体平
: 行于草地的飞身凌空扫射破网，小组晋级。
: 00年高卢鸡实力状态都是顶峰，但夺冠路上最激烈最危险的一战就是和卡马乔的西面。
: 西班牙实力上不如法国，但战术对头，上半场坚决打维克托的左路突破，频频得手，一
: 度将法国置于绝地。下半场法国调整队形之后才将后防稳定下来，但仍挡不住西面在最
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R*******a
发帖数: 2463 | 3 那这技术难度也太大了，放得对方屎尿汗横流
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 00年是南斯拉夫人放水好不好
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b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 4 东欧球队放水是习惯动作
【在 R*******a 的大作中提到】
: 那这技术难度也太大了，放得对方屎尿汗横流
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g********r
发帖数: 1458 | 5 你这neutural的评价太中庸了，可以给positive(俱乐部可以给 big negative, BTW)
02年不是棒子耍赖西班牙4强了，搞不好胜德国进决赛。
现在再说什么也没jb用了，都过去了。 |
p********a
发帖数: 6437 | 6 那场不是裁判黑哨，就是个别南队员放水
南整队应该还是好好踢的
南的当时的反击水平跟94年罗马尼亚一样，一个反击进一个，尼玛，太牛逼了
最后被逆转，很多队员都眼神都木了，跟俺一样
不过瓜迪奥拉长传，大高个头球摆渡，阿方索凌空平抽，这个确实帅呆了。
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 00年是南斯拉夫人放水好不好
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a********7
发帖数: 5325 | |
p******q
发帖数: 2 | 8 一个西班牙朋友（皇家马德里死忠）和我说的：
Camacho was one of the most famous captains of Real Madrid, he played many
times even been injured. Then he started training some teams, and after good
qualifications with Espanyol he was hired as coach of Real Madrid. He left
the club before starting this season, because the president didn't want to
pay Camacho's assistant. He was hired by R. Madrid again some years later,
but he gave up at mid-season. He said his players didn't fight as much as
they were supposed to do.
Camacho's teams usually control the ball, but it depends on the kind of
players he manages. He's very professional, and I think your culture
appreciate this kind of people.
从上面这些评论来看，我觉得Camacho还是不错的一个教练，如果足协充分放权，应该
会出成绩。可惜离第一场对新加坡不到一个月了，不知道世界名帅能不能顶的住时间的
紧迫。 |
d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 9 很明显在这里骂卡马乔最厉害的就是那些山西人啊
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【在 p******q 的大作中提到】
: 一个西班牙朋友（皇家马德里死忠）和我说的：
: Camacho was one of the most famous captains of Real Madrid, he played many
: times even been injured. Then he started training some teams, and after good
: qualifications with Espanyol he was hired as coach of Real Madrid. He left
: the club before starting this season, because the president didn't want to
: pay Camacho's assistant. He was hired by R. Madrid again some years later,
: but he gave up at mid-season. He said his players didn't fight as much as
: they were supposed to do.
: Camacho's teams usually control the ball, but it depends on the kind of
: players he manages. He's very professional, and I think your culture
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A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 10 哪句评论说明他是不错的一个教练？
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【在 p******q 的大作中提到】
: 一个西班牙朋友（皇家马德里死忠）和我说的：
: Camacho was one of the most famous captains of Real Madrid, he played many
: times even been injured. Then he started training some teams, and after good
: qualifications with Espanyol he was hired as coach of Real Madrid. He left
: the club before starting this season, because the president didn't want to
: pay Camacho's assistant. He was hired by R. Madrid again some years later,
: but he gave up at mid-season. He said his players didn't fight as much as
: they were supposed to do.
: Camacho's teams usually control the ball, but it depends on the kind of
: players he manages. He's very professional, and I think your culture
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