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发帖数: 24893 | 1 中国，韩国，日本，英国，法国，德国，人家怎么保护家庭？
这里面哪个国家凶杀比例比米国高？ | S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 2 版主，我又PA了吗？
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发帖数: 12995 | 3 这种讨论就很好，但最好把每个国家的暴力犯罪率研究一下，用事实说话。
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发帖数: 17972 | 4 你逻辑真的很差。
中国，韩国，日本，英国，法国，德国，
哪个国家是美国？哪个国家有大量的枪支在社会上流通？
别人有，你没有，罪犯有，好人没有，
还有一些脑子不成熟的鼓吹只能允许罪犯持枪，良民不允许有枪。
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: 这里面哪个国家凶杀比例比米国高？
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发帖数: 24893 | 5 你自己有没有用事实说话？
uiuc有没有用事实说话？
没有你就shut up
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: 这种讨论就很好，但最好把每个国家的暴力犯罪率研究一下，用事实说话。
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发帖数: 12995 | 6 先看看英国吧。
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发帖数: 24893 | 7 滚
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: 你逻辑真的很差。
: 中国，韩国，日本，英国，法国，德国，
: 哪个国家是美国？哪个国家有大量的枪支在社会上流通？
: 别人有，你没有，罪犯有，好人没有，
: 还有一些脑子不成熟的鼓吹只能允许罪犯持枪，良民不允许有枪。
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发帖数: 12995 | 8 AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
April 13, 2009
It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five
years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology
acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of
firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a
firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D
.C. Examiner.
Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that
the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:
In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9
percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both
experienced similar decreases in murder rates:
Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun
ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in
Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9
percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19
.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2
percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does
prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the
most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the
consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.
Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite
gun ban," D.C. Examiner, April 8, 2009.
For text:
http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austin-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009
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发帖数: 12995 | 9 再看看法国：
The slayings in Toulouse, FR of a Jewish Rabbi and three small children is
shocking to the French, and indeed the world. One reason for the shock is
that the French have very strict gun controls. The types of weapons, their
transportation, ammunition, private and public sale, and importation are all
highly regulated by the government. (To read a synopsis of their gun laws, http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/france)
So how has gun control helped in their present situation? How has it helped
in others? It hasn't. The law-abiding people of France don't get unfettered
access to firearms (actually, either do we), yet the criminals continue to
do what they want because, as we try to tell the liberals here in the US, if
guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns.
Now I hesitated before starting this thread. Two weeks ago, I cried foul
when liberals in our state jumped on the accidental shooting of a 9-year old
child by her classmate. I accused them of taking advantage of this tragedy
to forward their gun control agenda. Now, am I doing the same thing? The
answer simply is no. There is a difference between my point here and that of
a liberal using a tragedy, one which occurred with the use of an illegal
firearm (the father, a convicted felon was precluded from owning firearms)
to forward gun control legislation which wouldn't have prevented the tragedy
in the first place. In this case, the Toulouse incident is an illustration
of exactly why gun control does not stop gun violence. France has strict gun
control and yet, criminals still use guns to commit crimes. This is an
important point and will serve to shine the light on liberals when they seek
to impose restrictions on our most basic rights under the beloved
Constitution.
If you want to reduce gun violence, prosecute violent criminals to the
fullest extent of the law and actually make them serve their sentences once
they're convicted. This would be the best control on criminal gun violence.
Limiting the rights of law abiding citizens is not going to help.
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