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SciFiction版 - Ender's Game与Ender's Shadow读后感
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b*a
发帖数: 47
1
中文科幻原著或译著看过一些,此前从未读过英文原文的长篇科幻。
到此版看calc与ayanami推荐找了Ender's Game与Ender's Shadow
来看。
读后感觉如下:
1.作者orson scott card的英文写作很简单,读起来没有什么困难,
各位不想读英文的兄弟大可一试,不用太长时间就可以都读完。
2.作者笔下人物对话的小幽默小讽刺笔法不错,读起来很有意思。
3.两本书不是前传或续集关系,而是同一时段的事分别从Ender和从
Bean的眼光来描述,很有新意,而且取得了成功。
4.作者先写Ender's Game,十多年后再写Ender's Shadow。我也是
先看前者,这应该是正确的次序。一是阅读后者时背景清楚,二是读
后者要对照前者才能看出一些妙处来。
5.两本书前者要哲理一些,后者要轻松一些。我更喜欢后者,非常有
意思。当然前者也非常好。
6.两本书的主人公Ender与Bean,后者显得可爱有趣,人物形像要丰满
一些,篇幅也长一些。Bean在鹿特丹街头的流浪生活,在Battle
school
, Command school与教官们的斗争很有意思。作者本意将第
a*****i
发帖数: 4391
2
The sequel is "Speaker of the dead". I read the first half of it, but the story
gets a little boring and philosophical for a sci-fi, so I just quit. :)

【在 b*a 的大作中提到】
: 中文科幻原著或译著看过一些,此前从未读过英文原文的长篇科幻。
: 到此版看calc与ayanami推荐找了Ender's Game与Ender's Shadow
: 来看。
: 读后感觉如下:
: 1.作者orson scott card的英文写作很简单,读起来没有什么困难,
: 各位不想读英文的兄弟大可一试,不用太长时间就可以都读完。
: 2.作者笔下人物对话的小幽默小讽刺笔法不错,读起来很有意思。
: 3.两本书不是前传或续集关系,而是同一时段的事分别从Ender和从
: Bean的眼光来描述,很有新意,而且取得了成功。
: 4.作者先写Ender's Game,十多年后再写Ender's Shadow。我也是

b*a
发帖数: 47
3
It should be "Speaker for the dead", the following is
searching result
in library database. Is the book really boring? Is it about
the life
of the Buggers? Now I have "A fire upon the deep" by Vernor
Vinge, maybe
I should read it first.
AUTHOR Card, Orson Scott.
TITLE Speaker for the dead / Orson Scott Card.
EDITION Rev. ed.
IMPRINT New York : T. Doherty Associates, 1991.
DESCRIPT. xxii, 280 p. ; 24 cm.
NOTE "A Tor book"--T.p. verso.
ISBN 0312937385 :

【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】
: The sequel is "Speaker of the dead". I read the first half of it, but the story
: gets a little boring and philosophical for a sci-fi, so I just quit. :)

a*****i
发帖数: 4391
4
I dont think it is as interesting as the previous two (in the timeline, that is)
I still think ender's shadow is the best written, but Bean's character is not
too believalbe, He is just way too smart, and too lucky.

【在 b*a 的大作中提到】
: It should be "Speaker for the dead", the following is
: searching result
: in library database. Is the book really boring? Is it about
: the life
: of the Buggers? Now I have "A fire upon the deep" by Vernor
: Vinge, maybe
: I should read it first.
: AUTHOR Card, Orson Scott.
: TITLE Speaker for the dead / Orson Scott Card.
: EDITION Rev. ed.

c**c
发帖数: 2593
5
"Speaker for the Dead" is not about the buggers.
It is about another kind of alien life.
Completely different style from "Ender's Game."
You'd have to read it to decide if you like this style. :)

【在 b*a 的大作中提到】
: It should be "Speaker for the dead", the following is
: searching result
: in library database. Is the book really boring? Is it about
: the life
: of the Buggers? Now I have "A fire upon the deep" by Vernor
: Vinge, maybe
: I should read it first.
: AUTHOR Card, Orson Scott.
: TITLE Speaker for the dead / Orson Scott Card.
: EDITION Rev. ed.

c**c
发帖数: 2593
6
Of course, "A Fire upon the Deep" is also a must read.
But it's very likely that you'd start looking for its prequel
"A Deepness in the Sky" as soon as you finish "A Fire upon the
Deep." :)

【在 c**c 的大作中提到】
: "Speaker for the Dead" is not about the buggers.
: It is about another kind of alien life.
: Completely different style from "Ender's Game."
: You'd have to read it to decide if you like this style. :)

t****n
发帖数: 1347
7
IMHO, these books lack depth, but still have quite good
story telling.

【在 b*a 的大作中提到】
: 中文科幻原著或译著看过一些,此前从未读过英文原文的长篇科幻。
: 到此版看calc与ayanami推荐找了Ender's Game与Ender's Shadow
: 来看。
: 读后感觉如下:
: 1.作者orson scott card的英文写作很简单,读起来没有什么困难,
: 各位不想读英文的兄弟大可一试,不用太长时间就可以都读完。
: 2.作者笔下人物对话的小幽默小讽刺笔法不错,读起来很有意思。
: 3.两本书不是前传或续集关系,而是同一时段的事分别从Ender和从
: Bean的眼光来描述,很有新意,而且取得了成功。
: 4.作者先写Ender's Game,十多年后再写Ender's Shadow。我也是

a*****i
发帖数: 4391
8
What is a good book with depth ne? I am out of book to read le. :(

【在 t****n 的大作中提到】
: IMHO, these books lack depth, but still have quite good
: story telling.

t****n
发帖数: 1347
9
实在没书了就弄本 Principia Mathematica 读读吧.

【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】
: What is a good book with depth ne? I am out of book to read le. :(
D****N
发帖数: 430
10
回头看一下书架..
Cryptonomicon - Neal Stephenson
二战和现代的hacker们,看了这个,不妨再看,
Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson
因为他写九百多页的书太成功了...
Douglas Adams 的 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
从头大笑到尾,不过一点深度没有..
正好适合我这没深度的人...
The Illuminatus! - Robert Anton Wilson
好象很好看,不过还在地上..
另外Philip Dick也一直想看来着..

【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】
: What is a good book with depth ne? I am out of book to read le. :(
相关主题
闭上眼睛,世界上就没有悬崖(zz)Scifi that must read
finally read Snow Crash本年度的雨果奖
准备开始看点科幻说说我喜欢的一些科幻小说
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a*****i
发帖数: 4391
11
I like space operas, epic.
Anything good to recommend?

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: 回头看一下书架..
: Cryptonomicon - Neal Stephenson
: 二战和现代的hacker们,看了这个,不妨再看,
: Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson
: 因为他写九百多页的书太成功了...
: Douglas Adams 的 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
: 从头大笑到尾,不过一点深度没有..
: 正好适合我这没深度的人...
: The Illuminatus! - Robert Anton Wilson
: 好象很好看,不过还在地上..

D****N
发帖数: 430
12
Cyberspace算不算Space?
Willam Gibson 的 Neuromancer,Count Zero, Monolisa Overdrive
跟Epic还差点,可是他的世界恍若梦境,读了几本便觉,
去过了!
其他的Sci-Fi作者,只让人做旁观者
可是你要飞的很远很远,
还是去读The Space Odessy们吧,
要是一直飞都不累,晚上还有Star Trek...

【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】
: I like space operas, epic.
: Anything good to recommend?

a*****i
发帖数: 4391
13
I read neuromancer before, didn't really like it. Maybe I like scifiction on a
grander scale.
I like space opera such as "hyperion", "chongkuo", "foudation", "battlefield
earth". Anything with aliens or 6 headed monsters and a big bulky space ship
is a must read for me. :0

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: Cyberspace算不算Space?
: Willam Gibson 的 Neuromancer,Count Zero, Monolisa Overdrive
: 跟Epic还差点,可是他的世界恍若梦境,读了几本便觉,
: 去过了!
: 其他的Sci-Fi作者,只让人做旁观者
: 可是你要飞的很远很远,
: 还是去读The Space Odessy们吧,
: 要是一直飞都不累,晚上还有Star Trek...

d*******r
发帖数: 432
14

have you read David Brin's books, eg uplift trilogy?
personally, i don't like them, but they sort of fit in with
your description.
ps. i don't agree with people saying Orson Scott Card and
Douglas Adams lacks depth, because i like them (in fact i
REALLY like them), i don't want to be called shallow! :)

【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】
: I read neuromancer before, didn't really like it. Maybe I like scifiction on a
: grander scale.
: I like space opera such as "hyperion", "chongkuo", "foudation", "battlefield
: earth". Anything with aliens or 6 headed monsters and a big bulky space ship
: is a must read for me. :0

t****n
发帖数: 1347
15

Neal Stephenson惯于故作高深, 故事结构无章法.
这书另有一功, 不是用深度可以衡量的.

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: 回头看一下书架..
: Cryptonomicon - Neal Stephenson
: 二战和现代的hacker们,看了这个,不妨再看,
: Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson
: 因为他写九百多页的书太成功了...
: Douglas Adams 的 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
: 从头大笑到尾,不过一点深度没有..
: 正好适合我这没深度的人...
: The Illuminatus! - Robert Anton Wilson
: 好象很好看,不过还在地上..

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