R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 1 School Name SAT
Lynbrook High 2004
Mission San Jose High 1996
Saratoga High 1981
Palo Alto High 1961
Monta Vista High 1959
Piedmont High 1948
Henry M. Gunn High 1947
Campolindo High 1859
Miramonte High 1855
Dougherty Valley High 1840
Lowell High 1840
Cupertino High 1833
Leland High 1830
Los Altos High 1823
Homestead High 1821
Mountain View High 1810
Amador Valley High 1804
Irvington High 1783
Acalanes High 1782
Menlo-Atherton High 1780
Monte Vista High 1769
Foothill High 1767
Los Gatos High 1753
Albany High 1752
San Ramon Valley High 1731
Northgate High 1725
California High 1721
Las Lomas High 1714
American High 1711
Aragon High 1707
Carlmont High 1698
Burlingame High 1694
San Mateo High 1684
Ruth Asawa San Francisco Schoo 1678
Washington High 1675
Mills High 1675
Berkeley High 1669
Evergreen Valley High 1667
Prospect High 1665
College Park High 1657
Alameda High 1656
Half Moon Bay High 1653
Leigh High 1650
Granada High 1640
Westmont High 1639
Piedmont Hills High 1633
Dublin High 1629
Livermore High 1617
Sequoia High 1611
Pioneer High 1611
Branham High 1609
Castro Valley High 1608
Milpitas High 1601
Hillsdale High 1600
Terra Nova High 1593
Fremont High 1586
Santa Teresa High 1572
Woodside High 1562
Ann Sobrato High 1548
Alhambra Senior High 1546
Westmoor High 1543
Adrian Wilcox High 1538
Heritage High 1535
Summit Preparatory Charter Hig 1531
John F. Kennedy High 1529
James Logan High 1524
Clayton Valley High 1524
Willow Glen High 1522
Oakland Technical High 1518
Oceana High 1518
Independence High 1517
Silver Creek High 1514
Santa Clara High 1514
Capuchino High 1512
Oak Grove High 1503
El Cerrito Senior High 1502 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 2 今年终于有学校突破平均2000分，明年估计会有2个 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 3 San Ramon 的 DVHS 比去年高了大约80分，发挥不稳定啊 |
Q***N
发帖数: 2972 | 4 东湾靠北的几个高中还是很好的:
6. Piedmont High 1948 (Piedmont)
8. Campolindo High 1859 (Moraga)
9. Miramonte High 1855 (Orinda)
19. Acalanes High 1782 ( Lafayette)
25. Northgate High 1725 (Walnut Creek)
27. Las Lomas High 1714 (Walnut Creek)
San Ramon的 Dougherty Valley High 排第十 1840 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 5 前7名是明显的第一梯队，除MSJ及Piedmont外都在南湾 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 7 Pleasanton的两个高中好像在拉开距离，估计以后不会让自由选择了。:-( |
p*****u
发帖数: 188 | 8 Palo alto is not south bay, it's peninsula.
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: 前7名是明显的第一梯队，除MSJ及Piedmont外都在南湾
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h**d
发帖数: 5161 | |
s********o
发帖数: 861 | 10 怎么好像和API 有的学校不挂钩？像mountainview high和 carlmont high API差不多
，SAT差这么多？ |
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r******l
发帖数: 10760 | 11 piedmont还以为是95132那个呢，刚想说那不明明是在南湾么，仔细一看才发现那个叫
piedmont hill。 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 12 大家是不是觉得SAT成绩更跟印象中的好学校match？API只是骗自己的，只有全国范围
的测试才有可信性。
SAT不是Mandatory，但想上大学就要考 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 13 API高的“名校”还有Dublin和Castro Valley |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 14 API高的“名校”还有Dublin和Castro Valley |
s********o
发帖数: 861 | 15 是啊，Dublin更离谱，这是为什么？API也是全州统一的啊 |
m*****r
发帖数: 304 | 16 API 是达标(及格)率，这个SAT 应该是全校SAT的平均分数。所以显然如果学校很多中
流学生，尖子不多，很可能造成API高， 而SAT不高。其实对照这两项指标，可以一定
程度上反映学生成绩发布。
请问楼主, 很好奇，这湾区一流学校与全州，全国的名牌高中相比，如何？ 应该不错
吧。 特别是没有入学selection 的情况下。
【在 s********o 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，Dublin更离谱，这是为什么？API也是全州统一的啊
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P*****f
发帖数: 2272 | 17 有没有录取人数最后之类的排名？
毕竟这个才是终极指标
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: School Name SAT
: Lynbrook High 2004
: Mission San Jose High 1996
: Saratoga High 1981
: Palo Alto High 1961
: Monta Vista High 1959
: Piedmont High 1948
: Henry M. Gunn High 1947
: Campolindo High 1859
: Miramonte High 1855
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s*l
发帖数: 9421 | |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 19 湾区的前7名在加州都是15名内，在全国大约150之内 |
g****e
发帖数: 579 | 20 Piedmont是oakland的好区，白人大都住那，也是百万房。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.6
【在 r******l 的大作中提到】
: piedmont还以为是95132那个呢，刚想说那不明明是在南湾么，仔细一看才发现那个叫
: piedmont hill。
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R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 21 API 太容易及格，老师帮忙练练就可以了，所以API平均分年年上涨，一看就知道有问
题。SAT多少年都没变过 |
l****7
发帖数: 907 | 22 lynbrook SAT去年进全国前20.
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: 湾区的前7名在加州都是15名内，在全国大约150之内
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R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 23 Forbes说Lynbrook是全美第七。以下是SAT前25的高中，加州很厉害.
1. Thomas Jefferson High - Alexandria, VA
2. The Harker School - San Jose, CA
3. Dalton School - New York City, NY
4. Stuyvesant High School - New York City, NY
5. Regis High School - New York City, NY
6. Marlborough School - Los Angeles, CA
7. Lynbrook High - San Jose, CA
8. Lick-Wilmerding High School - San Francisco, CA
9. The Hotchkiss School - Lakeville, CT
10. Packer Collegiate Institute - Brooklyn, NY
11. IL Mathematics & Science Academy - Aurora, IL
12. Henry M. Gunn High - Palo Alto, CA
13. Phillips Exeter Academy - Exeter, NH
14. Middlesex School - Concord, MA
15. Monta Vista High - Cupertino, CA
16. Sidwell Friends School - Washington, D.C.
17. Choate Rosemary Hall - Wallingford, CT
18. Mission San Jose High - Fremont, CA
19. Noble & Greenough School - Dedham, MA
20. Leland High - San Jose, CA
21. Ransom Everglades School - Coconut Grove, FL
22. Leland Public School - Leland, MI
23. Ethical Culture Fieldston Middle & Upper - Bronx, NY
24. Brentwood School - Merrimack, NH
25. The Shipley School - Bryn Mawr, PA |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 24 Forbes的数据跟加州政府的不太一致，应该只做参考 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 25 加州SAT平均1505，比Texas，Florida，Penn等人口大州都高，但比麻州低 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 26 以下是有统计意义的州SAT 列表. 加州甩出Texas一大截，不知道为什么还有人吹Texas
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24 New Hampshire 70% 524 528 515 1567
25 Massachusetts 83% 515 529 509 1553
26 Arizona 35% 521 528 502 1551
27 Vermont 61% 516 519 505 1540
28 Oregon 49% 520 520 499 1539
29 Washington 60% 515 523 499 1537
30 Connecticut 85% 508 512 512 1532
31 Virginia 71% 516 514 498 1528
32 New Jersey 78% 499 522 500 1521
33 West Virginia 15% 514 501 498 1513
34 California 57% 498 512 495 1505
35 Alaska 52% 508 505 482 1495
36 Maryland 73% 497 500 486 1483
37 Pennsylvania 71% 494 504 482 1480
38 North Carolina 62% 495 506 478 1479
39 Indiana 70% 493 500 477 1470
40 Rhode Island 72% 491 490 487 1468
41 New York 76% 485 501 477 1463
42 Florida 67% 492 490 475 1457
43 Nevada 48% 492 494 468 1454
44 Hawaii 64% 481 504 468 1453
45 Georgia 75% 490 487 475 1452
46 Texas 59% 477 499 461 1437
47 South Carolina 64% 484 487 465 1436
48 District of Columbia 91% 473 466 461 1400
49 Maine 95% 462 467 451 1380
50 Idaho 99% 454 459 451 1364
51 Delaware 100% 451 457 443 1351 |
M********8
发帖数: 3837 | 27 这个是self reporting，而且数据量很小。所以这个数据不是很可信，跟加州政府统计
不一样。
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: Forbes说Lynbrook是全美第七。以下是SAT前25的高中，加州很厉害.
: 1. Thomas Jefferson High - Alexandria, VA
: 2. The Harker School - San Jose, CA
: 3. Dalton School - New York City, NY
: 4. Stuyvesant High School - New York City, NY
: 5. Regis High School - New York City, NY
: 6. Marlborough School - Los Angeles, CA
: 7. Lynbrook High - San Jose, CA
: 8. Lick-Wilmerding High School - San Francisco, CA
: 9. The Hotchkiss School - Lakeville, CT
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m******y
发帖数: 511 | |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 29 http://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/sp/ai/
【在 m******y 的大作中提到】
: 哪里能找到各个学校SAT历年的分数？
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O*******a
发帖数: 175 | 30 San Jose才是弯曲第一的高中
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/california/di
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: School Name SAT
: Lynbrook High 2004
: Mission San Jose High 1996
: Saratoga High 1981
: Palo Alto High 1961
: Monta Vista High 1959
: Piedmont High 1948
: Henry M. Gunn High 1947
: Campolindo High 1859
: Miramonte High 1855
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R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 31 KIPP San Jose Collegiate, SAT 1378, 不知道为什么会被说成Top School. 看来还是
政府数据可信. |
c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 32 这个排名对你的孩子有任何意义吗？
SAT 2200以下，难道不是彻底的loser了吗？ |
t**8
发帖数: 4527 | 33 SAT 1600 is good enough
【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】
: 这个排名对你的孩子有任何意义吗？
: SAT 2200以下，难道不是彻底的loser了吗？
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R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 34 用SAT来给高中排名是为了抵消API产生的一些错误印象。给大家一个更Fair的评估。
同时SAT也让大家看到加州教育其实不差。比某些人宣传的好的多。当然也希望加州能
象麻州，不过估计很难。
至于你说加州和高中的SAT跟你孩子一个有什么关系，中国历史上有孟母三迁的故事，
这连韩国人日本人都知道的，大多数中国人也是这样践行的。
【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】
: 这个排名对你的孩子有任何意义吗？
: SAT 2200以下，难道不是彻底的loser了吗？
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w**z
发帖数: 8232 | 35 听说这是弯曲最好的高中：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_College_Preparatory_School
College Prep has received a number of accolades for the quality of its
faculty and its academic rigor. A 2007 Wall Street Journal article ranked
College Prep as the sixth best high school in the world in terms of its
students' "success rate" in enrolling in America's most selective
universities, a statistic calculated by collecting information from college
admissions offices records of their freshmen classes.[2] In April 2010,
Forbes Magazine ranked College Prep as the seventeenth best private school
in the United States in terms of caliber of instruction, quality of
facilities, and overall academic achievement.[1]
The mean SAT Reasoning Test scores (on a scale of 200-800) for the College
Prep Class of 2010 were 712 critical reading, 700 math and 700 writing
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: 用SAT来给高中排名是为了抵消API产生的一些错误印象。给大家一个更Fair的评估。
: 同时SAT也让大家看到加州教育其实不差。比某些人宣传的好的多。当然也希望加州能
: 象麻州，不过估计很难。
: 至于你说加州和高中的SAT跟你孩子一个有什么关系，中国历史上有孟母三迁的故事，
: 这连韩国人日本人都知道的，大多数中国人也是这样践行的。
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h*****1
发帖数: 33 | 36 Let us compare these two schools; I assume they got the data from College
Board.
Lynbrook High 2004
Mission San Jose High 1996
On today’s published list of semifinalists of National Merit of Scholarship
Program, http://www.nationalmerit.org/nmsp.php, the following is a count of entrants
Lynbrook High 67
Mission San Jose High 105
This program uses the PSAT scores as selection. A cut off at 225 of PSTA
equals to 2250 of SAT.
These two sets of numbers tell me that Lynbrook kids are more centered in
the middle, and MSJ is clustered at two ends. |
h*****1
发帖数: 33 | 37 Let us compare these two schools; I assume they got the data from College
Board.
Lynbrook High 2004
Mission San Jose High 1996
On today’s published list of semifinalists of National Merit of Scholarship
Program, http://www.nationalmerit.org/nmsp.php, the following is a count of entrants
Lynbrook High 67
Mission San Jose High 105
This program uses the PSAT scores as selection. A cut off at 225 of PSTA
equals to 2250 of SAT.
These two sets of numbers tell me that Lynbrook kids are more centered in
the middle, and MSJ is clustered at two ends. |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 38 MSJ 2013有552个毕业生， Lynbrook有447.比例上是Lynbrook 15%， MSJ 19% 的高SAT
学生 |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 39 州政府只统计公立学校，太小的学校也从表里剔除了。加州最好的高中（包括私立）应
该是Harker。
college
【在 w**z 的大作中提到】
: 听说这是弯曲最好的高中：
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_College_Preparatory_School
: College Prep has received a number of accolades for the quality of its
: faculty and its academic rigor. A 2007 Wall Street Journal article ranked
: College Prep as the sixth best high school in the world in terms of its
: students' "success rate" in enrolling in America's most selective
: universities, a statistic calculated by collecting information from college
: admissions offices records of their freshmen classes.[2] In April 2010,
: Forbes Magazine ranked College Prep as the seventeenth best private school
: in the United States in terms of caliber of instruction, quality of
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m*****r
发帖数: 304 | 40 MSJ 这个是不是有点可怕？
SAT
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: MSJ 2013有552个毕业生， Lynbrook有447.比例上是Lynbrook 15%， MSJ 19% 的高SAT
: 学生
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m*****r
发帖数: 304 | 41 同意! 谢谢楼主的数据。
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: 用SAT来给高中排名是为了抵消API产生的一些错误印象。给大家一个更Fair的评估。
: 同时SAT也让大家看到加州教育其实不差。比某些人宣传的好的多。当然也希望加州能
: 象麻州，不过估计很难。
: 至于你说加州和高中的SAT跟你孩子一个有什么关系，中国历史上有孟母三迁的故事，
: 这连韩国人日本人都知道的，大多数中国人也是这样践行的。
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h*****1
发帖数: 33 | 42
SAT
I am conjecturing that there is a parent's push factor, esp. amongst the
Asian families; e.g. the parents push more tutoring classes and more SAT
prep books. This factor works for larger Asian schools like MSJ, that is
why MSJ has more high end SAT than others.
More Asians, more push, larger number of high SAT scores.
For the lower average MSJ vs. Lynbrook, I believe some parents just resign
to the fact it is not worth to pay to cross 2250 line. When there is no
under push, the laggards perform even worse.
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: MSJ 2013有552个毕业生， Lynbrook有447.比例上是Lynbrook 15%， MSJ 19% 的高SAT
: 学生
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c****i
发帖数: 625 | 43 去SAT补习班总比玩game， 抽大麻， party强。
【在 h*****1 的大作中提到】
:
: SAT
: I am conjecturing that there is a parent's push factor, esp. amongst the
: Asian families; e.g. the parents push more tutoring classes and more SAT
: prep books. This factor works for larger Asian schools like MSJ, that is
: why MSJ has more high end SAT than others.
: More Asians, more push, larger number of high SAT scores.
: For the lower average MSJ vs. Lynbrook, I believe some parents just resign
: to the fact it is not worth to pay to cross 2250 line. When there is no
: under push, the laggards perform even worse.
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w**z
发帖数: 8232 | 44 这个完全同意。我以前就住在MSJ， 那学校的老师也就那样，都是家长推的。暑假，去
elite 或think tank 看看，全是小孩补习SAT， 从9年级就开始了。
住好学区最大的好处，就是周围的同学，爱学习的占多数，孩子学坏难些。至于老师，
或学校，真没啥区别。MSJ 500 多毕业生，才几个conselor， 根本不够用。大学要推
荐信，老师写不过来，规定只能写几封，过了时间就不帮写了。
【在 h*****1 的大作中提到】
:
: SAT
: I am conjecturing that there is a parent's push factor, esp. amongst the
: Asian families; e.g. the parents push more tutoring classes and more SAT
: prep books. This factor works for larger Asian schools like MSJ, that is
: why MSJ has more high end SAT than others.
: More Asians, more push, larger number of high SAT scores.
: For the lower average MSJ vs. Lynbrook, I believe some parents just resign
: to the fact it is not worth to pay to cross 2250 line. When there is no
: under push, the laggards perform even worse.
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h*****1
发帖数: 33 | 45
【在 w**z 的大作中提到】
: 这个完全同意。我以前就住在MSJ， 那学校的老师也就那样，都是家长推的。暑假，去
: elite 或think tank 看看，全是小孩补习SAT， 从9年级就开始了。
: 住好学区最大的好处，就是周围的同学，爱学习的占多数，孩子学坏难些。至于老师，
: 或学校，真没啥区别。MSJ 500 多毕业生，才几个conselor， 根本不够用。大学要推
: 荐信，老师写不过来，规定只能写几封，过了时间就不帮写了。
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h*****1
发帖数: 33 | 46
Agreed.
I am trying to use the limited data points on SAT scores to seek our answers
for questions below: top tier means kids above 2250 on SAT; these questions
help future parents to determine if they should move to top schools
• Is Lynbrook better than MSJ for top, middle, or bottom tier
students?
• How much impact does parent push for top tier?
• Do income levels and house prices come into play between the two?
• Do more top tier students mean more top tier colleges’
admissions?
• Will more top tier applications reduce the chances to top
universities, or is there a linear relationship.
• Is it because MSJ the only top school in Fremont, as opposed to
Cupertino/SJ area where more top schools are available, hence 2250s are
spread?
【在 w**z 的大作中提到】
: 这个完全同意。我以前就住在MSJ， 那学校的老师也就那样，都是家长推的。暑假，去
: elite 或think tank 看看，全是小孩补习SAT， 从9年级就开始了。
: 住好学区最大的好处，就是周围的同学，爱学习的占多数，孩子学坏难些。至于老师，
: 或学校，真没啥区别。MSJ 500 多毕业生，才几个conselor， 根本不够用。大学要推
: 荐信，老师写不过来，规定只能写几封，过了时间就不帮写了。
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h**d
发帖数: 5161 | |
m*****r
发帖数: 304 | 48 What's the Asian percentage for both schools? I would think they are both
very high.
Who says Cupertino parents don't push their kids? Who knows if they don't
push just as hard as MSJ? and Who says Lynbrook students don't join SAT
prep?
【在 h*****1 的大作中提到】
:
: Agreed.
: I am trying to use the limited data points on SAT scores to seek our answers
: for questions below: top tier means kids above 2250 on SAT; these questions
: help future parents to determine if they should move to top schools
: • Is Lynbrook better than MSJ for top, middle, or bottom tier
: students?
: • How much impact does parent push for top tier?
: • Do income levels and house prices come into play between the two?
: • Do more top tier students mean more top tier colleges’
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R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 49 你们这样的讨论隐含意思就是“亚裔学生的SAT成绩都是父母推出来的，其实能力不行
”。这样的话，那还抱怨什么人家用SCA5来限制亚裔招生？
事实上，SAT不是天天补习就能很好的，熟悉了是比不熟悉好，但再靠多练去提高成绩
就很难了。相信所有考过GRE或GMAT都有此感。SAT也提供样题让大家熟悉，以便Even
the playing field. |
R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 50 亚裔比例：
Lynbrook High 81%
Mission San Jose High 87%
Saratoga High 56%
Palo Alto High 27%
Monta Vista High 78%
Piedmont High 19%
Henry M. Gunn High 42% |
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R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 51 Lynbrook 和 MSJ 的SAT Participation Rate 都接近 100% |
h*****1
发帖数: 33 | 52
You maybe right, another theory is that the reason MSJ has more 2250 kids
over Lynbrook is that it is the only top school within 10 miles radius, so
it gets tops from Milpitas, Fremont, and even Pleasanton.
【在 m*****r 的大作中提到】
: What's the Asian percentage for both schools? I would think they are both
: very high.
: Who says Cupertino parents don't push their kids? Who knows if they don't
: push just as hard as MSJ? and Who says Lynbrook students don't join SAT
: prep?
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h*****1
发帖数: 33 | 53
Agree,
I only want to find out the difference between the two.
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: 你们这样的讨论隐含意思就是“亚裔学生的SAT成绩都是父母推出来的，其实能力不行
: ”。这样的话，那还抱怨什么人家用SCA5来限制亚裔招生？
: 事实上，SAT不是天天补习就能很好的，熟悉了是比不熟悉好，但再靠多练去提高成绩
: 就很难了。相信所有考过GRE或GMAT都有此感。SAT也提供样题让大家熟悉，以便Even
: the playing field.
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h*****1
发帖数: 33 | 54
This is interesting,
more Asians in MSJ, and yet, the average is lower than Lynbrook,
what does that tell us?
It would be interesting to separate Math and English components.
That should tell us more insights.
【在 R*****I 的大作中提到】
: 亚裔比例：
: Lynbrook High 81%
: Mission San Jose High 87%
: Saratoga High 56%
: Palo Alto High 27%
: Monta Vista High 78%
: Piedmont High 19%
: Henry M. Gunn High 42%
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R*****I
发帖数: 262 | 55 You read too much into these data. Asian population is an important factor
in SAT scores but not the determining one. |
w***o
发帖数: 1806 | 56 lynbrook学生比MSJ更刻苦一些 理科更强 人数也少不少 但招生上来讲越好的学校的学
生越吃亏 |
