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发帖数: 8181 | 1 KB要在油菜花地上盖Patterson Ranch,估计又是几百套，上批没抢上的很快就又有机会
了。 | h*********2
发帖数: 42 | 2 学区的问题还没解决呢。 看看这个新闻
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23787405/fremont-sc
Fremont school officials warn of worse overcrowding if development goes
ahead
By Chris De Benedetti
The Argus
POSTED: 08/03/2013 12:00:00 AM PDT0 COMMENTS
FREMONT -- Builders of the Patterson Ranch subdivision are expected to break
ground next year, but school district officials fret that its 500 new homes
will add more students than nearby schools can handle, worsening the
Ardenwood neighborhood schools' already major overcrowding problem.
"Our goal is to provide neighborhood school seats for kids, so that they can
attend school close to where they live, as opposed to being shipped across
town," said Fremont school superintendent James Morris. "We don't want to
tell families that their children have to go to different schools."
But that's exactly what might happen to families who will buy homes in
Patterson Ranch, where the nearest elementary schools already are
overflowing. The district's newest K-12 campus was built a quarter-century
ago.
Student enrollment in the district's 41 schools is 33,000, and steadily
rising. Last year alone, Fremont Unified increased by 600 students, district
officials said. That was a sharp spike from the past half decade, when
enrollment grew 300 students each year. Rising enrollment can be "a good
problem," Morris said, but it also poses severe challenges to North Fremont
parents.
The overcrowding, along with the impending Patterson Ranch development,
prompted the school board to take the "unprecedented action of saying we're
not going to assign (Patterson Ranch) to a school," Morris said. "We're
going to place those students wherever there is space in the city."
Forest Park and Ardenwood elementary schools -- the campuses closest to
Patterson Ranch -- have a combined capacity of 1,900 seats, falling far
short of the 2,200 students now living in the area, Morris said. That has
forced the district to send extra 300 students to the next-closest
elementary schools: Warwick, Patterson, Oliveira and Brookvale.
These are hardly long-term remedies. The school board recently voted to
lower the student-teacher ratio from 30-1 to 24-1, in grades K-3, over the
next seven years. Smaller class sizes improve learning, but likely will
exacerbate Fremont's overcrowding issue, district officials said. American
High, the high school closest to Ardenwood's campuses, is operating at more
than 90 percent capacity and it's a matter of time before it hits its limit,
Morris said. At campuses on the verge of overcrowding, the school district
will add portable classrooms where necessary, he said.
The proposed housing development is owned by the Patterson family, who have
controlled ranch land in the area since the 1850s, when patriarch George
Washington Patterson purchased his first parcel. In 2010, the Patterson
Ranch project was approved for 500 single-family residences to be built on
80 acres east of Ardenwood Boulevard, and bounded by Paseo Padre Parkway,
Alameda Creek and railroad tracks.
To cover the development's impacts on Fremont schools, the Pattersons are
required to pay about $6 million to the district. But that sum won't come
close to covering the $22 million construction tab for a new elementary
school to absorb the students the project will generate, Morris said. Forest
Park Elementary is Fremont's most recently built K-12 campus. It was
constructed in 1988, for about $3 million, Morris said.
Jana Sokale -- a member of Friends of Coyote Hills, a grass roots group that
has worked to lessen Patterson Ranch's environmental impacts -- sharply
criticized the large disparity between the developer fees and the cost of
the district's needs.
"It's part of a larger problem, in that we're allowing private developers to
build and reap profit without fully floating the cost of all the
externalities of their development," said Sokale.
Charles "Chop" Keenan, a Palo Alto developer representing the Patterson
family, said the recession delayed the housing development's progress. But
now that the economy is perking up, Keenan said that ground likely will be
broken next spring and site preparation, which could take up to 18 months,
will follow.
Over the years, the Pattersons and their representatives have had talks with
the school district about providing land or building a new campus.
Patterson Ranch's initial plans called for 1,500 homes and a new elementary
school, but when the Pattersons reduced the scale of the project because of
the recession and pressure from Friends of Coyote Hills, they also scrapped
plans for the school.
"There has been talk by the developer about parcels of land for a new school
," Morris said. "But there has been no formal offer to the district, saying,
'Hey, we'd like to do this.'"
Morris said the school district has not had substantive discussions with
Fremont staff or council members about the project since its approval in
2010.
Mayor Bill Harrison acknowledges that the overcrowding problem must be
addressed. He noted that more housing is in the works near the proposed
mixed-use Warm Springs development, which would include 3,000 residences on
the southern end of town. "Maybe we can use the traction from working
together on Warm Springs to address the overcrowding problem in the north
Fremont area," he said. "I'm happy to work with the school district and the
developer to find a solution out there."
Contact Chris De Benedetti at 510-353-7011. Follow him at Twitter.com/
cdebenedetti. | h******s
发帖数: 3420 | 3 从 ARDENWOOD 去SUNNYVALE 要多久？
ARDENWOOD 房租怎样啊？
没什么钱，又在乎学区，只能去这里。OVER BUILD 也好，TRAFFIC 也好，建多少房子
都卖得掉。
【在 b********t 的大作中提到】
: KB要在油菜花地上盖Patterson Ranch,估计又是几百套，上批没抢上的很快就又有机会
: 了。
| e****n
发帖数: 4054 | 4 http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2014/04/01/kb-home-to-b
500套，有lot.
【在 b********t 的大作中提到】
: KB要在油菜花地上盖Patterson Ranch,估计又是几百套，上批没抢上的很快就又有机会
: 了。
| p*********r
发帖数: 7944 | 5 那地方不好，84号对面牛蛙克，20年房子没涨过。 | t**8
发帖数: 4527 | 6 why newark is not good? too many MoMO?
I lived there for a while, nice quite area, in fact, it is better than
central Fremont, but housing price crashed seriously last recession
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
: 那地方不好，84号对面牛蛙克，20年房子没涨过。
| t**8
发帖数: 4527 | 7 lot 3500 to 5500
house 1700 to 3000
small lot if not no-lot
【在 e****n 的大作中提到】
: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2014/04/01/kb-home-to-b
: 500套，有lot.
| f******2
发帖数: 2455 | 8 sun micro wanted to build an R&D center there, but sun went under, so the
concept did not
sell well.
【在 t**8 的大作中提到】
: why newark is not good? too many MoMO?
: I lived there for a while, nice quite area, in fact, it is better than
: central Fremont, but housing price crashed seriously last recession
| p*********r
发帖数: 7944 | 9 你要同其他好的地方比较才会知道。
newark太差了。
离湾太近，房价太便宜，排水如何？（虽然现在不下雨了：））
【在 t**8 的大作中提到】
: why newark is not good? too many MoMO?
: I lived there for a while, nice quite area, in fact, it is better than
: central Fremont, but housing price crashed seriously last recession
| p*********r
发帖数: 7944 | 10 买房子之前，要在地图上检查big picture。 | | | b********t
发帖数: 8181 | 11 别小看牛蛙客，牛蛙客还是有升值潜力的，就这么点儿地方，过几年被老中买光了都很
难说，实际上就差几个像样点的学校。 | p*********r
发帖数: 7944 | 12
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
: 买房子之前，要在地图上检查big picture。
| b********t
发帖数: 8181 | 13 看看地图，牛蛙客两面靠飞为，一面靠背，另外一面全部是商业区，内有小湖水路，有
点小佛斯特城的意思。 | a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 14 那块靠海是不是有点臭？
【在 b********t 的大作中提到】
: 看看地图，牛蛙客两面靠飞为，一面靠背，另外一面全部是商业区，内有小湖水路，有
: 点小佛斯特城的意思。
| b********t
发帖数: 8181 | 15 不臭。晒盐那种臭和垃圾臭还不一样。
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: 那块靠海是不是有点臭？
| f*********r
发帖数: 462 | 16 牛蛙克这小妮子多水灵？风水好
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
| t**8
发帖数: 4527 | 17 but newark is cheaper than milpitas
【在 b********t 的大作中提到】
: 不臭。晒盐那种臭和垃圾臭还不一样。
| p*********r
发帖数: 7944 | 18 新建学校，税就会很重。
+0.70% extra。 | a***e
发帖数: 393 | 19 这个小姑娘能吸引至少100户买家
【在 p*********r 的大作中提到】
| P**********c
发帖数: 3417 | 20 Newark lake区环境很好，也很抢。这个房子去年12月到现在也涨了10万。http://www.redfin.com/CA/Newark/35653-Scarborough-Dr-94560/home/1949941
中学是软肋，不过感觉非亚裔都不怎么care。小学
还是说的过去的。这个区还有Newpark Mall附近那个区(Bunker Elementary)抢的比较
厉害,
其他区一般，感觉不怎么抢，升值潜力也有限。
【在 b********t 的大作中提到】
: 别小看牛蛙客，牛蛙客还是有升值潜力的，就这么点儿地方，过几年被老中买光了都很
: 难说，实际上就差几个像样点的学校。
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