q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: qilikacha100 (嘁哩喀喳), 信区: Military
标 题: 忍无可忍！也说说小悦悦的事情
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 25 03:38:43 2011, 美东)
小悦悦走了，这是一个悲剧，这应该是共识。
我们的社会有问题，那些路人不救助，这的确是问题。这些我都承认。
但是，很多人无限上纲上线到中国人怎么怎么了，这简直是幼稚得可笑。
首先，小悦悦的悲剧，谁应该负主要责任？我认为是小悦悦的父母。两岁的孩子，父母
居然不在身边看着！我无法想象这样不负责任的父母。我相信小悦悦的父母是爱小悦悦
的，我相信小悦悦的父母正在承受巨大的痛苦。但是，我的观点不变：小悦悦的父母应
该为这起悲剧负主要责任。在美国，小悦悦的父母是可能被政府起诉的。
次要责任是肇事司机。
512大地震的时候，那些英雄的老师们在生死关头用自己的血肉之躯去保护自己的学生
。有很多很多人跑去当义工，有很多很多并不富裕的人们捐出了自己的大部分积蓄！愤
青们怎么评价这些事呢？
一个悲剧，竟然被一些人上升到了中国人如何如何卑劣，甚至“对中国感到恶心”，何
其幼稚！
美国又如何？我在加州几年，看到的父母把婴儿忘在车上导致婴儿死亡的的例子就有好
几起！（解释一下：加州太阳比较烈，阳光下撤离的温度会升得比较高。）记得前一阵
子美国还有一件闹得沸沸扬扬的事情：一些年轻人晚上暴打路边无家可归的老人，被商
店的监控录像拍了下来。这又怎么说呢？哪个国家哪个社会没有一些悲剧？哪个国家哪
个社会没有一些丑恶现象？
人间不是完美的，人性也不是完美的。人性有美好的一面，也有丑恶的一面。不管你喜
欢不喜欢，这就是人间，这就是人性！
只看美好的一面或者只看丑恶的一面都是不客观的。 |
h*****n
发帖数: 924 | 2 5 cents sent via paypal. please double check.
why do you keep re-posting BS from the military board? military board was se
t up for some reason. BBS is divided into different boards for some reason a
s well.
i'm not a hater of the gov't, but a hater of such BS.
【在 q**********0 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: qilikacha100 (嘁哩喀喳), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 忍无可忍！也说说小悦悦的事情
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 25 03:38:43 2011, 美东)
: 小悦悦走了，这是一个悲剧，这应该是共识。
: 我们的社会有问题，那些路人不救助，这的确是问题。这些我都承认。
: 但是，很多人无限上纲上线到中国人怎么怎么了，这简直是幼稚得可笑。
: 首先，小悦悦的悲剧，谁应该负主要责任？我认为是小悦悦的父母。两岁的孩子，父母
: 居然不在身边看着！我无法想象这样不负责任的父母。我相信小悦悦的父母是爱小悦悦
: 的，我相信小悦悦的父母正在承受巨大的痛苦。但是，我的观点不变：小悦悦的父母应
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q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 3 哈哈哈！你有恨，所以你不客观。
se
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【在 h*****n 的大作中提到】
: 5 cents sent via paypal. please double check.
: why do you keep re-posting BS from the military board? military board was se
: t up for some reason. BBS is divided into different boards for some reason a
: s well.
: i'm not a hater of the gov't, but a hater of such BS.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 4 qilikacha100:
How about you feed your baby (or your future baby) with china-made formula
only and show proof here.
Otherwise, your barking is weak. |
q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 5
我否认中国现在存在的我问题了吗？你读懂我在说什么了吗？
什么脑子啊！
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: qilikacha100:
: How about you feed your baby (or your future baby) with china-made formula
: only and show proof here.
: Otherwise, your barking is weak.
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l******w
发帖数: 112 | 6 支持楼主！幸亏有lz说出了我们的心声，不然气死了，成天看到买买提上一堆自轻自贱
的人在那鼓吹凡是洋人做的一定是对的，凡是中国人做的事都是错的。 |
g*q
发帖数: 26623 | |
F*********e
发帖数: 1765 | |
q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 9 再来点资料：
中国发生的小悦悦事件是一个悲剧。很多人无限上纲上线，把这个事儿说成是中国人如
何如何“道德沦丧”。
美国发生的“小悦悦”事件，这些人又如何看呢？见死不救的行为应该受到谴责。我只
是反对一些人把这样的悲剧无限上纲上线。
1）78岁老人被车撞
http://wn.com/hartford_police_release_video_of_hit_and_run
康州警方发布的录像：2008年5月30日，在美国康州哈特福德市（Hartford），一个78
岁的老人过马路被一辆违规驾驶的车辆撞飞。随后过去了的九辆车没有一辆停下来救助
。一些路人无动于衷，后来有几个路人跑去围观。直到警方的巡逻车经过。（根据新闻
，这辆警车并不是专为此事而来。）
2）纽约见义勇为的勇士倒在血泊里，20多个人路过而不管。直到一个多小时之后消防
队因别的事情路过。导致见义勇为的勇士死亡。
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/passers_by_let_good_s |
q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 10 重申：
我只是反对一些XX把这样的悲剧无限上纲上线。 |
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f*****r
发帖数: 300 | 11 为什么碰到这么正义懔然的人士总是有些惭愧。哎。 |
c*******p
发帖数: 965 | |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 13 qilikacha100:
I didn't see anybody posted on SF board generalizing this tragedy into "
Chinese is despicable", so if your real purpose is "我只是反对一些XX把这样的
悲剧无限上纲上线。", go pick your fight were the fight was. If you think
what happened is a normal accident, don't use the loser argument "it happens
in US too". Using US as your standard only shows your lack of self-esteem.
Making other people look bad doesn't make you look any better.
If the "comparable examples" you listed in your first post is just what your
great brain can come up with, enjoy the company of some people here that
share your logic.
Oh, don't provide links when you want to post "material" and omitting
crucial details. People will figure out that you are being dishonest. Or at
least don't use 50cents translated version.
"Hartford Police Chief Daryl Roberts appeared at a news conference on Thursday in which they said four people dialed 911 within a minute of the accident."
"Cops said they received four 911 calls at around the time of the attack reporting a woman screaming, but found nothing. They received no other 911 calls." |
q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 14 1）我在那里法帖你管不着。你连这点都搞不清楚吗？
2）"it happens in US too" 是要针对一些觉得美国什么都好中国什么都差劲的XX说的。
happens
.
your
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: qilikacha100:
: I didn't see anybody posted on SF board generalizing this tragedy into "
: Chinese is despicable", so if your real purpose is "我只是反对一些XX把这样的
: 悲剧无限上纲上线。", go pick your fight were the fight was. If you think
: what happened is a normal accident, don't use the loser argument "it happens
: in US too". Using US as your standard only shows your lack of self-esteem.
: Making other people look bad doesn't make you look any better.
: If the "comparable examples" you listed in your first post is just what your
: great brain can come up with, enjoy the company of some people here that
: share your logic.
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q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 15 哈哈哈！笑死人了。四个报警电话是“crucial detail”？
老人被撞，多少人看见了？小悦悦被撞，多少人看见了？
老人被撞，路过的车辆有没有停下来救助被撞的老人？路上的行人有没有上前救助被撞
的老人？
纽约见义勇为的勇士倒在血泊里，20多个路人不管，你怎么不说了呢？
happens
.
your
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: qilikacha100:
: I didn't see anybody posted on SF board generalizing this tragedy into "
: Chinese is despicable", so if your real purpose is "我只是反对一些XX把这样的
: 悲剧无限上纲上线。", go pick your fight were the fight was. If you think
: what happened is a normal accident, don't use the loser argument "it happens
: in US too". Using US as your standard only shows your lack of self-esteem.
: Making other people look bad doesn't make you look any better.
: If the "comparable examples" you listed in your first post is just what your
: great brain can come up with, enjoy the company of some people here that
: share your logic.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 16 Is it enough? I am not sure. Everybody has their judgement what is enough,
what is not. In the case of an emergency,making a 911 call is critical.
Apparently, you think what the bystander did in this case was
enough for you. If you are not a 50cent party member and really live in CA,
I suggest you take a emergency response course offered by a lot of community
colleges and fire department. Usually, it is recommended to:
first, call 911;
second, secure and stay in the area until help comes if you can;
third, help if you are a trained professional;
And again, some people was despicable in the US cases doesn't make the bystander in the china case less despicable. |
q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 17
：the bystander in the china case less despicable.
哈哈哈！你这样说，我没什么意见。（虽然我并不认为你并不比那些路人强。）
我反对的是无限上纲上线的XX们。
我反对的是一些XX们那种美国什么都好中国什么都差的XX说法。
你这样的说法我不反对。:-)))
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: Is it enough? I am not sure. Everybody has their judgement what is enough,
: what is not. In the case of an emergency,making a 911 call is critical.
: Apparently, you think what the bystander did in this case was
: enough for you. If you are not a 50cent party member and really live in CA,
: I suggest you take a emergency response course offered by a lot of community
: colleges and fire department. Usually, it is recommended to:
: first, call 911;
: second, secure and stay in the area until help comes if you can;
: third, help if you are a trained professional;
: And again, some people was despicable in the US cases doesn't make the bystander in the china case less despicable.
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F*********e
发帖数: 1765 | 18 谁能翻译一下？没看懂！
happens
.
your
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: qilikacha100:
: I didn't see anybody posted on SF board generalizing this tragedy into "
: Chinese is despicable", so if your real purpose is "我只是反对一些XX把这样的
: 悲剧无限上纲上线。", go pick your fight were the fight was. If you think
: what happened is a normal accident, don't use the loser argument "it happens
: in US too". Using US as your standard only shows your lack of self-esteem.
: Making other people look bad doesn't make you look any better.
: If the "comparable examples" you listed in your first post is just what your
: great brain can come up with, enjoy the company of some people here that
: share your logic.
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q**********0
发帖数: 587 | 19
同感！我也是连蒙带猜。
【在 F*********e 的大作中提到】
: 谁能翻译一下？没看懂！
:
: happens
: .
: your
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